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Khan was dirty no doubt, but I don't know about TWO point deductions. Either way, you gotta factor them into your scorecard.
I had Peterson losing the last round, making it 9-9, so I had it a draw. Can't really see Peterson winning, MAYBE by a point. Honestly think a draw was the right call, and I was rooting for Peterson.
Anyone outraged at this decision ?
Khan list his shit titles.
To be a real champ you need a green belt.
No Hulk,I am not outraged about that decision, Khan's own fault you could see the point's
were going to be deducted, too much pushing by Khan.?
Peterson, did fight out of his skin and he deserve'd the decision.
Khan, got this fight wrong no one to blame only himself.;D
It was a close fight. I don't think even Khan had a problem with the cards, given the point deductions. The problem was the point deductions. Without those, Khan won.
(I like Peterson and don't particularly like Khan (though I don't dislike him either) and I grew up in DC, so I'm definitely not coming at this with a pro-Khan bias.)
It was a really good fight though. It's a shame about the ref. But I'd happily watch the rematch.
Point deductions were definitely warranted and right man got the decision.
And to think that bradley dominated peterson ...
Bradley is supposed to be " ducking " khan? Haha
With the point deductions I still had it a draw. No complains on the cards as there shouldn't be in such a close fight.
Ref could have made it look a little less like he had an agenda but favouratism can happen anywhere! A rematch somewhere neutral would be good to see how they both adapt and improve to face each other again- neither were perfect but both entertained.
Right decision.close fight but khan defo warranted the points deductions.couldn't help being delighted hearing the result after seeing khan being so smug when they wer waiting for the score card. Brilliant effort by peterson nobody gave him a chance me included wot a warrior.
Even with the points taken off, I still had Khan infront.
Was also two knock downs in the first
Very good and a very close fight, could have gone either way, i think the points deductions were right Khan was pushing and using his elbows a lot , delighted for Peterson,he put up a tremendous performance and deserves some big paydays,good luck to him:)
I've just watched the fight again this morning, those pushes were self defence! Peterson was bulldozing Khan all night, with no warning. When Khan pushed him back he got told off.
The points were very harsh, peterson was leading with his head constantly
What else was khan suppose to do?
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Originally Posted by 0james0
Surely that's what footwork and punches are for - to keep the other guy at bay?
Na khan lost, he was on his a game against a lesser fighter and khan had all the goldenboy advantages, khan just can't win without lucky speed!Quote:
Originally Posted by 0james0
He might get a real belt soon and it's green
just watched the fight and scored it 115-113 Khan
Good fight and Khan proved he has the mental and physical attitude to reclaim his title....Well done Peterson u took the fight to Khan and fought very well
Job Biscuit (had no sound so wasn't influenced by crappy commentary)!!!
eh eh!!!
Even if you give Khan the 2 points and he get's the majority decision.
Should a guy who claims to want and be a legitimate contender to Money Mayweather be having life and death battles with the likes of Lamont Peterson ?
NO
Don't get me wrong. Khan will probably have the rematch against Peterson in the spring and he may well win but all the fancy talk of Mayweather has gone up in smoke. All the fancy talk of retiring early will not happen either. In a way I think this defeat is worse than the Prescott defeat. Anyone can get KO-ed.
But when someone is there toe-toe with you for 12 rounds and still standing and pushes you all the way, then that tells me, that Khan is not as good as he or F.Roach or Golden boy promotions thinks he is.
I had Peterson winning it by one point I felt he was the aggressor and he really threw khan off his game plan. The 2nd point deduction was fine with me he actually cracked Peterson after the ref stepped in to break them up as well.
In truth is was Amir's own fault that he lost, he could have got his shots off and moved out of range like he was doing in spurts but he decided to fight Peterson's fight. For me Khan will never be an elite fighter until he learns to deal with pressure fighters, can see why he didnt want to rematch Maidana. I worry for Khan if he moves up to 147 cause he still seems shaky when taking shots even from someone like Peterson who isnt a massive puncher, someone like Miguel Cotto would have him in all kinds of trouble.
To be fair, it was life and death because the fight took place in a very small ring, with a referee who stopped....well refereeing after about 5 rounds.Quote:
Originally Posted by denilson200
In a bigger ring, in a neutral venue, with neutral judges and a neutral referee, you'll struggle to find many who'd back Peterson to pull off the same result.
I had it 7-5 Khan but there was 3-4 very close rounds. I think the problem alot of people have with the decision is the ref's 2 pts deductions changed the winner.
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Originally Posted by denilson200
Bottom line: Khan was exposed and Peterson fought better than expected. I agree completely that this is a worse loss than Prescott because Lamont is a known commodity. If this is Khan's performance against Lamont, Khan isn't contending with Floyd or Berto/Ortiz or any of the other higher ranked guys at 147. Can we all agree that Bradley is the top dog at 140? Fenster? :pissing: Sorry, I'm a vindictive :jerk: .
The fight itself was close and I had Khan winning without the point deductions. With the point deductions, I had it a draw or very tight. While it's clear too that the referee was 100% biased, no way was it a robbery. It was too close for a robbery. Khan was outmuscled in this fight and he couldn't keep Peterson off of him. Khan didn't look as strong as he has in the past although in terms of skill there is no doubt that Khan is the better pure boxer. Isn't odd that Bradley, the supposed light puncher, put Peterson down, but Khan couldn't hurt Peterson?
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Originally Posted by captainanddew
Peterson kept the distance close!!! He didn't head butt or anything!!! Khan gasses out PERIOD!!! He's good but not great. And Khan used dirty tricks the whole fight, Khan Wont Survive @147 unless he handpicks his opponents.Quote:
Originally Posted by 0james0
Khan was at least one round up IMO and with the points deductions , Peterson deserved the nod. It was a great fight and no doubt Khan Lost it for himself by the points deductions. He needs to box a lot more and not get drawn in too much with Peterson. Peterson did well when he was aggressive, but Khan got caught up in it trying to prove he could take Petersons punches...which he did prove. He took far too much leather and I think Khan is better than that. He got drawn in and he showed when he was on the outside he was in command of the fight.
I think a rematch because of the points deductions is fair. Khan needs to be more disciplined but no doubt if he just boxes clever like he can do he would beat Peterson. It would be a good fight the rematch but Khan needs to just not be cocky and box a hard 12 rounds and he will beat Peterson. I would love the rematch to be in Vegas, I hope it goes through soon.
I thought the point deductions were terrible. Without them Khan won the fight imo, and the first knockdown was not being valled was dubious as well.
Nonetheless the judges have to factor in referee's decisions and taking the deductions into account I though the scores were perfectly fair.
Khan had a weird night. He really impressed me with his ability to take shots, his chin looks fine now, but boxing wise I was really disappointed that he let Peterson bully him around the ring.
I do think the referee played the deciding factor, not just the two points, but never breaking them up either. Khan's pushes looked like self dfence to me, trying to get Peterson off of him, I've never seen anybody have points deducted for that before.
Also, it's noticable that on here all those who hate Khan totally felt the point deductions were justified, whereas all the Hopkins haters felt Hopkins milked it when Dawson literally picked him up and threw him to the floor.
If it goes to a rematch I think Khan will beat him, but knowing the popular appeal of Khan he may not even chase a rematch.
It's just as likely that he will fight somebody like Marquez next, win that and fight Floyd anyway. The manner of the defeat means he hasn't lost anything, he's still the biggest non Pacquiao money earner for Floyd and certainly for Marquez.
I expect some good matchmaking now, a big win over a huge name and then right back in the elite leagues again.
A wrod on Peterson though, he fought a great fight, showing that Khan can be outboxed and that he isn't ready for the likes of Floyd Mayweather.
I like Peterson, the point deductions shouldnt overshadow what was a career best, all heart effort from Lamont.
no one would have been surprised which way verdict when Buffer read out that third score so how can it be controversial unless you are Team Khan ? It can't
Does Khan have the power to trouble the main men ? Certainly doesn't seem so so I guess we best get used to this type of fight with Khan. And I'm not complaining if thats what gets served up.
If its big fights from here on in for him then I think we will see Khan sparked again before too long.
Pushing happens alot in boxing, i never tought it was illegal, i see fighters do it ALL the time, sometimes its part of the gameplan, cotto pushed tony a few times, no said nothing lol, a lot of guys do it,its a technique to create space. So i learned something new ...no pushing allowed
Is pushing illegal? Did Khan excessively push compared to fights of the past?
Well i think with the point deduction it is pretty clear that Patterson won and to tell you the truth the knockdowns were kinda of joke. As for hometown thing one of the judges scored it for Khan 114-111 now thats a fucking bs right there. Khan was getting most of his shots blocked and Paterson was landing at will his connect rate was pretty high up there as well. As for pushing Kahn was fucking elbowing Patterson in the face and was warned alot about even hit Petterson on the break. I am just happy Khan lost showed his inside fighting needs alot of work. Not to mention Bradley can get his spot back which was bs in the first place for him to lose because he did not even get beat which was a joke that he could lose his spot with wins over the top guys in the divisions as well also.
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Originally Posted by Boxer4life
Really?
Refs usually warn guys about it. Its legal in certain heavyweight fights though. Oh well.
Pushing and holding are just ways for guys to get around being clueless infighters. You're not supposed to be able to do it excessively, but most refs are hesitant to take points for it. Its a shame really. It's unfortunate for good infighters. If you're a shit infighter you can just break the rules to try to get around it. If you're shit at distance and can't get inside, well you can just get punched in the face.
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Originally Posted by 0james0
I thought both knockdowns (the first one was ruled a slip) were flaky and dubious. Then again, I thought the point deductions were harsh and not preceded by proper warnings. With those cancelling each other out, I thought the fight was close enough that a draw wouldn't have been out of the question. Great effort by both.
That's true Khan is overrated, this fight must be a wake up call and he thought he could beat Mayweather. If that was someone quicker in the ring with him last night they would have had him out of there. I don't dislike khan but he is a little delusional thinking he can fight and beat guys like Mayweather, pac and cotto at 147.Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita
Thats exactly what khan is. The man has no clue what to do on the inside he just goes into a shell.Quote:
Originally Posted by OumaFanQuote:
Originally Posted by Boxer4life
Really?
Refs usually warn guys about it. Its legal in certain heavyweight fights though. Oh well.
Pushing and holding are just ways for guys to get around being clueless infighters. You're not supposed to be able to do it excessively, but most refs are hesitant to take points for it. Its a shame really. It's unfortunate for good infighters. If you're a shit infighter you can just break the rules to try to get around it. If you're shit at distance and can't get inside, well you can just get punched in the face.
I thought the decision was good although I had Khan up by one point. Really close fight. The only thing that could be said wasn't good was the point deductions and knockdown. Khan was doing a lot of pushing, but at most he deserves only one point deduction. So giving a point back to Khan, and taking away the so called knockdown, I'd still have Khan up by a single point.
REMATCH!!!!
btw-- was it only me, or did anyone also think this fight would be a snooze fest?
Never seen a point deducted for pushing, never mind 2!! I did think the first knockdown should have stood as well. (although I was pretty drunk by the time I watched the fight)
Taking the points off it probably wasn't a bad result, although I still honk khan won, just! But fair play to Peterson, fought really well. I think khan will come back from this, hopefully learn from a few mistakes and come back stronger from it.
I think peterson won by a round, it could of gone either way tho. I dont have a problem with the ref he did warn khan alot before he took the points away. Maybe petersons head was low afew times but not all the time.
I thought Khan pulled away down the stretch but Peterson put up a great effort and it was close.
There needs to be a rematch, great fight.
The truth is Peterson pulled of "a Hatton". He bullied Khan, he rammed him, he led with the shoulder and got inside.
The ref tried to let the fight flow which suits the bully fighter. It was man vs boy at times. If Hatton had done it, which he did, then I'd have been cheering when he won. I did when he knocked Tszyu about.
I still think Khan scored more scoring punches and won more rounds all told though.
I'm not complaining, hardly a massive Khan fan. But I do think Khan keeps a clean sheet in the rematch.
I thought it was a great fight. It could have gone either way.
It's an absolute CERT rematch but it wont be anywhere near Washington.
How ironic that Peterson refused to go to England incase he got robbed. (not that I think Khan was robbed, just a tight decision where point deductions were a major factor)
I think Peterson should fight Maidana. Then Khan the winner.
Just because it would be funny :D
With the point deductions I had Peterson winning
An even fight with the deductions giving it to Peterson. I too thought it was a cracking fight and would like to see it again.
This time Peterson should forget about boxing Khan from the off and realise that he has to be a bull in a china shop. Khan is too stupid to stick with a gameplan or listen to his corner, so once you take him out of his comfort zone the fight evens up somewhat. Peterson needs to do the same, but try and rip to the body immediately. Run at Khan and make him fluster.
Khan stuck to his gameplan very well against Malinaggi and Zab Judah. He just seemd to lose his head against Peterson and go for broke.Quote:
Originally Posted by miles