Disgusting commentary on Boxrec by Bob Sheridan and his sidekick

Mayweather vs Cotto WTF - If I hadnt seen everyone else I would think I had gone mental and was watching the wrong fight!?!?!?!? I literally have never seen anything like it

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Mayweather vs Cotto WTF - If I hadnt seen everyone else I would think I had gone mental and was watching the wrong fight!?!?!?!? I literally have never seen anything like it

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I got the Sheridan commentary down here, what was wrong with it?

The worst commentating I have ever seen. Biased to the nth degree in favor of Mayweather. It isn't just the judging we have to deal with in boxing or the ridiculous numbers of belts, it is now also the appalling excuse for commentary that we seem to be getting.

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Originally Posted by Gandalf

The worst commentating I have ever seen. Biased to the nth degree in favor of Mayweather. It isn't just the judging we have to deal with in boxing or the ridiculous numbers of belts, it is now also the appalling excuse for commentary that we seem to be getting.

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Really? Biased? I thought he gave Cotto a lot of credit during the fight, Mayweather was giving Cotto a boxing lesson and several times Sheridan did mention that Cotto was giving his all and that he was a great champion and fighter, but Mayweather was too good. He was right.

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The worst commentating I have ever seen. Biased to the nth degree in favor of Mayweather. It isn't just the judging we have to deal with in boxing or the ridiculous numbers of belts, it is now also the appalling excuse for commentary that we seem to be getting.

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Really? Biased? I thought he gave Cotto a lot of credit during the fight, Mayweather was giving Cotto a boxing lesson and several times Sheridan did mention that Cotto was giving his all and that he was a great champion and fighter, but Mayweather was too good. He was right.

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Come on give it a rest.

Your a better poster than this, more fair minded.

Mayweather got hit more cleanly than he has in years, he won no one is disputing that but it wasn't a dominant, easy performance at all.

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The worst commentating I have ever seen. Biased to the nth degree in favor of Mayweather. It isn't just the judging we have to deal with in boxing or the ridiculous numbers of belts, it is now also the appalling excuse for commentary that we seem to be getting.

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Really? Biased? I thought he gave Cotto a lot of credit during the fight, Mayweather was giving Cotto a boxing lesson and several times Sheridan did mention that Cotto was giving his all and that he was a great champion and fighter, but Mayweather was too good. He was right.

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I watched it on HBO, but that's exactly the same thing they said regarding Cotto and it was only in order to make Floyd sound good. Saying Cotto was a great champion giving it his all without actually acknowledging that he was in the fight or commenting on what he was doing. For whatever reason it seems you didn't want to see a good fight either though, at least those guys were getting paid:-\.

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The worst commentating I have ever seen. Biased to the nth degree in favor of Mayweather. It isn't just the judging we have to deal with in boxing or the ridiculous numbers of belts, it is now also the appalling excuse for commentary that we seem to be getting.

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Really? Biased? I thought he gave Cotto a lot of credit during the fight, Mayweather was giving Cotto a boxing lesson and several times Sheridan did mention that Cotto was giving his all and that he was a great champion and fighter, but Mayweather was too good. He was right.

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Yes, it was extremely biased.

Cotto wasn't exactly hitting air all night as they repeatedly tried to insist, I certainly didn't see him receive enough credit for his work at all. And then every time Mayweather opened up he was apparently putting on a masterclass despite a lot of his work not landing cleanly. Very biased.

Mayweather won and was more exciting than normal, but it was hard fought. Mayweather only really pulled away in the final 2 rounds. Cotto had evened up the fight somewhat with his mid fight effort. The cards were off and the commentary was quite definitely off.

It was almost painful to listen to at times as it didn't match what I was seeing at all.

quite literally the entire fight was about Mayweather, how exceptional he was how when cot to was hitting him to body 3 times the commentary would say 'and he cannot land a head shot' point is aside from the fact he did, look at floods face, but he was actually throwing 4 or 5 shots to the body so of course he wasn't going to get a head shot!

I just thought it was a complete joke!!!

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The worst commentating I have ever seen. Biased to the nth degree in favor of Mayweather. It isn't just the judging we have to deal with in boxing or the ridiculous numbers of belts, it is now also the appalling excuse for commentary that we seem to be getting.

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Really? Biased? I thought he gave Cotto a lot of credit during the fight, Mayweather was giving Cotto a boxing lesson and several times Sheridan did mention that Cotto was giving his all and that he was a great champion and fighter, but Mayweather was too good. He was right.

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Come on give it a rest.

Your a better poster than this, more fair minded.

Mayweather got hit more cleanly than he has in years, he won no one is disputing that but it wasn't a dominant, easy performance at all.

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I had it 117-111 and while i'll admit Mayweather did it tough Cotto was never really in the hunt as far as a win is concerned. I gave Cotto rounds 6, 8 and 9. Mayweather did what he had to do and Cotto was lucky to survive the final round. Cotto just couldn't hit him often enough, Mayweather fought him on his terms, at his weight and clearly won the fight.

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The worst commentating I have ever seen. Biased to the nth degree in favor of Mayweather. It isn't just the judging we have to deal with in boxing or the ridiculous numbers of belts, it is now also the appalling excuse for commentary that we seem to be getting.

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Really? Biased? I thought he gave Cotto a lot of credit during the fight, Mayweather was giving Cotto a boxing lesson and several times Sheridan did mention that Cotto was giving his all and that he was a great champion and fighter, but Mayweather was too good. He was right.

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Come on give it a rest.

Your a better poster than this, more fair minded.

Mayweather got hit more cleanly than he has in years, he won no one is disputing that but it wasn't a dominant, easy performance at all.

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I had it 117-111 and while i'll admit Mayweather did it tough Cotto was never really in the hunt as far as a win is concerned. I gave Cotto rounds 6, 8 and 9. Mayweather did what he had to do and Cotto was lucky to survive the final round. Cotto just couldn't hit him often enough, Mayweather fought him on his terms, at his weight and clearly won the fight.

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They're both the same height, Cotto is actually shorter at 5'7 even tho they list him at 5'8, and the same size as well. Mayweather chose to come in at 151 to gain a speed edge I imagine.

Regardless I think its crazy not to give Cotto ANY of the first 5 rounds.

Miguel showed the best defense I've ever seen from him and blocked many of Floyd's shots, he also did some great body work which was often ignored by the commentators. Most clearly he found a home for his single, power jab which caught Floyd backing straight up numerous times.

I think the commentary along with the aura of invincibility of Floyd influenced some to give Floyd every single close round.

Third man you must of been watchin on a stream??? It was shocking commentary!

They were so bad they were talking over one of those sexy super slow-mo's showing Floyd getting hit square on the chin while saying ''well that punch was clearly blocked''.

Fuck it, Bob sheridan must of been watching a stream! ;D

And another thing... How hard is it to say 'hook-come-uppercut'?

All i can say is i think there is more bias against Floyd than anything coming from Bob Sheridan. I had another look and Sheridan on no less than 3 occasions states that Cotto is a world class champion getting beaten by an all time great. That is exactly what happened and i am a great admirer of Miguel Cotto, but he only won 3 rounds IMO despite fighting a great fight.

Commentators were a joke and it spoilt a very good fight for me. The love for Floyd was awful and Cotto’s work was invisible. Even when Floyd was doing nothing, he was called a defensive genius.

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Commentators were a joke and it spoilt a very good fight for me. The love for Floyd was awful and Cotto’s work was invisible. Even when Floyd was doing nothing, he was called a defensive genius.

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And Sheridan kept saying the crowd is going nuts when Cotto is doing good work but they don't know what's really happening - that he's getting the worst of the exchanges. Funny thing is he kept whining about Floyd laying too much at the ropes when he's doing great at a distance. I was like WTF, what is it really you blind arse kissing muthaf*cka!:mad:

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Commentators were a joke and it spoilt a very good fight for me. The love for Floyd was awful and Cotto’s work was invisible. Even when Floyd was doing nothing, he was called a defensive genius.

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And Sheridan kept saying the crowd is going nuts when Cotto is doing good work but they don't know what's really happening - that he's getting the worst of the exchanges. Funny thing is he kept whining about Floyd laying too much at the ropes when he's doing great at a distance. I was like WTF, what is it really you blind arse kissing muthaf*cka!:mad:

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It started at the weigh in, when they said the crowd were there for Floyd, when it was obvious at least half the crowd were Cotto fans.

Everyone is certainly entitled to their opinion, and Third Man is certainly entitled to his. If he truly feels Floyd totally dominated Miguel and only lost 3 rounds, I guess it's his right. I certainly don't agree... and neither do a lot of other people, who saw Floyd having to dig down deep for the first time in a lo-n-n-n-n-n-n-g time to pull out the victory. I admire Floyd more now than before, because he met Cotto's challenge head-on, and both gave the crowd one of the more crowd-pleasing championship fights we've seen in years. I gave Miguel 5 rounds, although I'd like to see it again and score it again. Maybe I'll see it differently next time.

The sad part is, as happens with all great fights. With time, all people will remember is the unanimous decision win for Floyd over Cotto. One more notch in his belt. To be grouped into the other victims like Ortiz, Marquez, Hatton, etc. When in reality, it was nothing like those fights. As a Cotto fan, the only comfort I have is that Floyd himself knows he was in a real war... and he gave his kudos to Cotto in a very sportsmanlike manner after the fight. In a strange way, I think the Cotto fight has even increased Floyd's legacy in the boxing world.

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Everyone is certainly entitled to their opinion, and Third Man is certainly entitled to his. If he truly feels Floyd totally dominated Miguel and only lost 3 rounds, I guess it's his right. I certainly don't agree... and neither do a lot of other people, who saw Floyd having to dig down deep for the first time in a lo-n-n-n-n-n-n-g time to pull out the victory. I admire Floyd more now than before, because he met Cotto's challenge head-on, and both gave the crowd one of the more crowd-pleasing championship fights we've seen in years. I gave Miguel 5 rounds, although I'd like to see it again and score it again. Maybe I'll see it differently next time.

The sad part is, as happens with all great fights. With time, all people will remember is the unanimous decision win for Floyd over Cotto. One more notch in his belt. To be grouped into the other victims like Ortiz, Marquez, Hatton, etc. When in reality, it was nothing like those fights. As a Cotto fan, the only comfort I have is that Floyd himself knows he was in a real war... and he gave his kudos to Cotto in a very sportsmanlike manner after the fight. In a strange way, I think the Cotto fight has even increased Floyd's legacy in the boxing world.

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Dude you sound like a serious fanboy right about now, was your account hacked or something??

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Everyone is certainly entitled to their opinion, and Third Man is certainly entitled to his. If he truly feels Floyd totally dominated Miguel and only lost 3 rounds, I guess it's his right. I certainly don't agree... and neither do a lot of other people, who saw Floyd having to dig down deep for the first time in a lo-n-n-n-n-n-n-g time to pull out the victory. I admire Floyd more now than before, because he met Cotto's challenge head-on, and both gave the crowd one of the more crowd-pleasing championship fights we've seen in years. I gave Miguel 5 rounds, although I'd like to see it again and score it again. Maybe I'll see it differently next time.

The sad part is, as happens with all great fights. With time, all people will remember is the unanimous decision win for Floyd over Cotto. One more notch in his belt. To be grouped into the other victims like Ortiz, Marquez, Hatton, etc. When in reality, it was nothing like those fights. As a Cotto fan, the only comfort I have is that Floyd himself knows he was in a real war... and he gave his kudos to Cotto in a very sportsmanlike manner after the fight. In a strange way, I think the Cotto fight has even increased Floyd's legacy in the boxing world.

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Cotto fought a great fight, but Floyd was able to counter everything Cotto could throw at him. I have watched the fight just 2 times, i still score it the same, Floyd took some time off in the middle rounds and was never in any danger. Whenever i see Cotto fight, his opponents are always in danger and that includes Pacquaio in the first 2 rounds of that fight. Never at any time was Cotto able to assert himself enough for us the viewer to believe Floyd was in trouble. I think Miguel Cotto is a great fighter, he has given us some great battles, i hope he continues for a little longer. He was always going to be Floyd's toughest fight and to his credit Floyd responded.
Nobody should worry to much about Sheridan's commentary, he is a boisterous, color commentator, he is there to spice up the action, he's been around a long time.

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Everyone is certainly entitled to their opinion, and Third Man is certainly entitled to his. If he truly feels Floyd totally dominated Miguel and only lost 3 rounds, I guess it's his right. I certainly don't agree... and neither do a lot of other people, who saw Floyd having to dig down deep for the first time in a lo-n-n-n-n-n-n-g time to pull out the victory. I admire Floyd more now than before, because he met Cotto's challenge head-on, and both gave the crowd one of the more crowd-pleasing championship fights we've seen in years. I gave Miguel 5 rounds, although I'd like to see it again and score it again. Maybe I'll see it differently next time.

The sad part is, as happens with all great fights. With time, all people will remember is the unanimous decision win for Floyd over Cotto. One more notch in his belt. To be grouped into the other victims like Ortiz, Marquez, Hatton, etc. When in reality, it was nothing like those fights. As a Cotto fan, the only comfort I have is that Floyd himself knows he was in a real war... and he gave his kudos to Cotto in a very sportsmanlike manner after the fight. In a strange way, I think the Cotto fight has even increased Floyd's legacy in the boxing world.

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Dude it you sound like a serious fanboy right about now, was your account hacked or something??

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What's the problem? I've always been a Cotto fan. How is this strange to you? Or do you mean Floyd? Explain yourself please.

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Everyone is certainly entitled to their opinion, and Third Man is certainly entitled to his. If he truly feels Floyd totally dominated Miguel and only lost 3 rounds, I guess it's his right. I certainly don't agree... and neither do a lot of other people, who saw Floyd having to dig down deep for the first time in a lo-n-n-n-n-n-n-g time to pull out the victory. I admire Floyd more now than before, because he met Cotto's challenge head-on, and both gave the crowd one of the more crowd-pleasing championship fights we've seen in years. I gave Miguel 5 rounds, although I'd like to see it again and score it again. Maybe I'll see it differently next time.

The sad part is, as happens with all great fights. With time, all people will remember is the unanimous decision win for Floyd over Cotto. One more notch in his belt. To be grouped into the other victims like Ortiz, Marquez, Hatton, etc. When in reality, it was nothing like those fights. As a Cotto fan, the only comfort I have is that Floyd himself knows he was in a real war... and he gave his kudos to Cotto in a very sportsmanlike manner after the fight. In a strange way, I think the Cotto fight has even increased Floyd's legacy in the boxing world.

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Cotto fought a great fight, but Floyd was able to counter everything Cotto could throw at him. I have watched the fight just 2 times, i still score it the same, Floyd took some time off in the middle rounds (surely you don't believe that, do you?) and was never in any danger. Whenever i see Cotto fight, his opponents are always in danger and that includes Pacquaio in the first 2 rounds of that fight. Never at any time was Cotto able to assert himself enough for us the viewer to believe Floyd was in trouble. I think Miguel Cotto is a great fighter, he has given us some great battles, i hope he continues for a little longer. He was always going to be Floyd's toughest fight and to his credit Floyd responded.
Nobody should worry to much about Sheridan's commentary, he is a boisterous, color commentator, he is there to spice up the action, he's been around a long time. He's there for a reason, to call fights as accurately as he can and without bias. He fails miserably.

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Everyone is certainly entitled to their opinion, and Third Man is certainly entitled to his. If he truly feels Floyd totally dominated Miguel and only lost 3 rounds, I guess it's his right. I certainly don't agree... and neither do a lot of other people, who saw Floyd having to dig down deep for the first time in a lo-n-n-n-n-n-n-g time to pull out the victory. I admire Floyd more now than before, because he met Cotto's challenge head-on, and both gave the crowd one of the more crowd-pleasing championship fights we've seen in years. I gave Miguel 5 rounds, although I'd like to see it again and score it again. Maybe I'll see it differently next time.

The sad part is, as happens with all great fights. With time, all people will remember is the unanimous decision win for Floyd over Cotto. One more notch in his belt. To be grouped into the other victims like Ortiz, Marquez, Hatton, etc. When in reality, it was nothing like those fights. As a Cotto fan, the only comfort I have is that Floyd himself knows he was in a real war... and he gave his kudos to Cotto in a very sportsmanlike manner after the fight. In a strange way, I think the Cotto fight has even increased Floyd's legacy in the boxing world.

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Cotto fought a great fight, but Floyd was able to counter everything Cotto could throw at him. I have watched the fight just 2 times, i still score it the same, Floyd took some time off in the middle rounds (surely you don't believe that, do you?) and was never in any danger. Whenever i see Cotto fight, his opponents are always in danger and that includes Pacquaio in the first 2 rounds of that fight. Never at any time was Cotto able to assert himself enough for us the viewer to believe Floyd was in trouble. I think Miguel Cotto is a great fighter, he has given us some great battles, i hope he continues for a little longer. He was always going to be Floyd's toughest fight and to his credit Floyd responded.
Nobody should worry to much about Sheridan's commentary, he is a boisterous, color commentator, he is there to spice up the action, he's been around a long time. He's there for a reason, to call fights as accurately as he can and without bias. He fails miserably.

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Time off? Yep, I think Floyd was ready to step on the gas whenever he felt like it and he did in round 12.

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Everyone is certainly entitled to their opinion, and Third Man is certainly entitled to his. If he truly feels Floyd totally dominated Miguel and only lost 3 rounds, I guess it's his right. I certainly don't agree... and neither do a lot of other people, who saw Floyd having to dig down deep for the first time in a lo-n-n-n-n-n-n-g time to pull out the victory. I admire Floyd more now than before, because he met Cotto's challenge head-on, and both gave the crowd one of the more crowd-pleasing championship fights we've seen in years. I gave Miguel 5 rounds, although I'd like to see it again and score it again. Maybe I'll see it differently next time.

The sad part is, as happens with all great fights. With time, all people will remember is the unanimous decision win for Floyd over Cotto. One more notch in his belt. To be grouped into the other victims like Ortiz, Marquez, Hatton, etc. When in reality, it was nothing like those fights. As a Cotto fan, the only comfort I have is that Floyd himself knows he was in a real war... and he gave his kudos to Cotto in a very sportsmanlike manner after the fight. In a strange way, I think the Cotto fight has even increased Floyd's legacy in the boxing world.

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Cotto fought a great fight, but Floyd was able to counter everything Cotto could throw at him. I have watched the fight just 2 times, i still score it the same, Floyd took some time off in the middle rounds (surely you don't believe that, do you?) and was never in any danger. Whenever i see Cotto fight, his opponents are always in danger and that includes Pacquaio in the first 2 rounds of that fight. Never at any time was Cotto able to assert himself enough for us the viewer to believe Floyd was in trouble. I think Miguel Cotto is a great fighter, he has given us some great battles, i hope he continues for a little longer. He was always going to be Floyd's toughest fight and to his credit Floyd responded.
Nobody should worry to much about Sheridan's commentary, he is a boisterous, color commentator, he is there to spice up the action, he's been around a long time. He's there for a reason, to call fights as accurately as he can and without bias. He fails miserably.

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Time off? Yep, I think Floyd was ready to step on the gas whenever he felt like it and he did in round 12.

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So he was just cruising the rest of the fight? Interesting.
Poor guy must've been really bored.

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I'm sorry. I've tried to understand your point........... but failed miserably.
I must've watched a different fight than you.

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Everyone is certainly entitled to their opinion, and Third Man is certainly entitled to his. If he truly feels Floyd totally dominated Miguel and only lost 3 rounds, I guess it's his right. I certainly don't agree... and neither do a lot of other people, who saw Floyd having to dig down deep for the first time in a lo-n-n-n-n-n-n-g time to pull out the victory. I admire Floyd more now than before, because he met Cotto's challenge head-on, and both gave the crowd one of the more crowd-pleasing championship fights we've seen in years. I gave Miguel 5 rounds, although I'd like to see it again and score it again. Maybe I'll see it differently next time.

The sad part is, as happens with all great fights. With time, all people will remember is the unanimous decision win for Floyd over Cotto. One more notch in his belt. To be grouped into the other victims like Ortiz, Marquez, Hatton, etc. When in reality, it was nothing like those fights. As a Cotto fan, the only comfort I have is that Floyd himself knows he was in a real war... and he gave his kudos to Cotto in a very sportsmanlike manner after the fight. In a strange way, I think the Cotto fight has even increased Floyd's legacy in the boxing world.

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Dude it you sound like a serious fanboy right about now, was your account hacked or something??

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What's the problem? I've always been a Cotto fan. How is this strange to you? Or do you mean Floyd? Explain yourself please.

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Tito I know he's your fav fighter but I thought you were alot more objective then this. Perhaps you should watch the fight again, you say you gave Cotto 5 rounds, which ones were they? I gave him 3 rounds, lets stretch and say 4, they were not even the the 4 toughest rounds of Floyds career, that designation goes to Castillo or Augustus.

It was a great performance by Cotto but it was a lesson from Floyd and in no way was he in touble at anytime. The victory enhances Floyds legacy and the fact that it was Cotto gives it an added bump but its hardly a defining fight for Floyd simply a victory over another under suited opponent.

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Everyone is certainly entitled to their opinion, and Third Man is certainly entitled to his. If he truly feels Floyd totally dominated Miguel and only lost 3 rounds, I guess it's his right. I certainly don't agree... and neither do a lot of other people, who saw Floyd having to dig down deep for the first time in a lo-n-n-n-n-n-n-g time to pull out the victory. I admire Floyd more now than before, because he met Cotto's challenge head-on, and both gave the crowd one of the more crowd-pleasing championship fights we've seen in years. I gave Miguel 5 rounds, although I'd like to see it again and score it again. Maybe I'll see it differently next time.

The sad part is, as happens with all great fights. With time, all people will remember is the unanimous decision win for Floyd over Cotto. One more notch in his belt. To be grouped into the other victims like Ortiz, Marquez, Hatton, etc. When in reality, it was nothing like those fights. As a Cotto fan, the only comfort I have is that Floyd himself knows he was in a real war... and he gave his kudos to Cotto in a very sportsmanlike manner after the fight. In a strange way, I think the Cotto fight has even increased Floyd's legacy in the boxing world.

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Cotto fought a great fight, but Floyd was able to counter everything Cotto could throw at him. I have watched the fight just 2 times, i still score it the same, Floyd took some time off in the middle rounds (surely you don't believe that, do you?) and was never in any danger. Whenever i see Cotto fight, his opponents are always in danger and that includes Pacquaio in the first 2 rounds of that fight. Never at any time was Cotto able to assert himself enough for us the viewer to believe Floyd was in trouble. I think Miguel Cotto is a great fighter, he has given us some great battles, i hope he continues for a little longer. He was always going to be Floyd's toughest fight and to his credit Floyd responded.
Nobody should worry to much about Sheridan's commentary, he is a boisterous, color commentator, he is there to spice up the action, he's been around a long time. He's there for a reason, to call fights as accurately as he can and without bias. He fails miserably.

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Time off? Yep, I think Floyd was ready to step on the gas whenever he felt like it and he did in round 12.

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So he was just cruising the rest of the fight? Interesting.
Poor guy must've been really bored.

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I'm sorry. I've tried to understand your point........... but failed miserably.
I must've watched a different fight than you.

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At this point I think some posters are just looking to wind others up.

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The worst commentating I have ever seen. Biased to the nth degree in favor of Mayweather. It isn't just the judging we have to deal with in boxing or the ridiculous numbers of belts, it is now also the appalling excuse for commentary that we seem to be getting.

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Really? Biased? I thought he gave Cotto a lot of credit during the fight, Mayweather was giving Cotto a boxing lesson and several times Sheridan did mention that Cotto was giving his all and that he was a great champion and fighter, but Mayweather was too good. He was right.

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Come on give it a rest.

Your a better poster than this, more fair minded.

Mayweather got hit more cleanly than he has in years, he won no one is disputing that but it wasn't a dominant, easy performance at all.

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I had it 117-111 and while i'll admit Mayweather did it tough Cotto was never really in the hunt as far as a win is concerned. I gave Cotto rounds 6, 8 and 9. Mayweather did what he had to do and Cotto was lucky to survive the final round. Cotto just couldn't hit him often enough, Mayweather fought him on his terms, at his weight and clearly won the fight.

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They're both the same height, Cotto is actually shorter at 5'7 even tho they list him at 5'8, and the same size as well. Mayweather chose to come in at 151 to gain a speed edge I imagine.

Regardless I think its crazy not to give Cotto ANY of the first 5 rounds.

Miguel showed the best defense I've ever seen from him and blocked many of Floyd's shots, he also did some great body work which was often ignored by the commentators. Most clearly he found a home for his single, power jab which caught Floyd backing straight up numerous times.

I think the commentary along with the aura of invincibility of Floyd influenced some to give Floyd every single close round.

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1 complaint. Floyd is not the same weight as Cotto. When Cotto was at 140 many yrs ago, he had at least 1 fight where he weighed 157 pounds in the ring. He has weighed over 160 in the ring for his last few fights at 154.

Floyd weighed in at 151 and claims he weighed 147 pounds in the ring fighting. It is a bit weird, but he claims to have been sick.

Of course Floyd weighed only 150 pounds on HBO's unofficial scale vs Ortiz. 150 pounds. I think Floyd weighed only about 148 or 149 against De la hoya.

Floyd is not a big guy. He moved up from 140 quickly to 147 and has relied on craft and speed to beat guys who are naturally bigger. When Floyd is saying Pac has to be taking something because he is a smaller fighter beating up bigger men, he needs to look in the mirror.

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Originally Posted by TitoFan

Everyone is certainly entitled to their opinion, and Third Man is certainly entitled to his. If he truly feels Floyd totally dominated Miguel and only lost 3 rounds, I guess it's his right. I certainly don't agree... and neither do a lot of other people, who saw Floyd having to dig down deep for the first time in a lo-n-n-n-n-n-n-g time to pull out the victory. I admire Floyd more now than before, because he met Cotto's challenge head-on, and both gave the crowd one of the more crowd-pleasing championship fights we've seen in years. I gave Miguel 5 rounds, although I'd like to see it again and score it again. Maybe I'll see it differently next time.

The sad part is, as happens with all great fights. With time, all people will remember is the unanimous decision win for Floyd over Cotto. One more notch in his belt. To be grouped into the other victims like Ortiz, Marquez, Hatton, etc. When in reality, it was nothing like those fights. As a Cotto fan, the only comfort I have is that Floyd himself knows he was in a real war... and he gave his kudos to Cotto in a very sportsmanlike manner after the fight. In a strange way, I think the Cotto fight has even increased Floyd's legacy in the boxing world.

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Dude it you sound like a serious fanboy right about now, was your account hacked or something??

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What's the problem? I've always been a Cotto fan. How is this strange to you? Or do you mean Floyd? Explain yourself please.

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Tito I know he's your fav fighter but I thought you were alot more objective then this. Perhaps you should watch the fight again, you say you gave Cotto 5 rounds, which ones were they? I gave him 3 rounds, lets stretch and say 4, they were not even the the 4 toughest rounds of Floyds career, that designation goes to Castillo or Augustus.

It was a great performance by Cotto but it was a lesson from Floyd and in no way was he in touble at anytime. The victory enhances Floyds legacy and the fact that it was Cotto gives it an added bump but its hardly a defining fight for Floyd simply a victory over another under suited opponent.

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If I don't reply for awhile, it's 'cause I'm gonna be looking for a post of yours where you said I was objective.

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C'mon dude..... you and I both know you never miss an opportunity to yank my chain.

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I fully understand that Cotto fans are not happy he was beaten, i'm a Cotto fan too, but i cannot see how he even came close to really troubling Floyd. It was a good fight and Cotto did his best to put pressure on Floyd and he was active throughout, but he didn't land enough, he looked good when Floyd decided to show bravado and fight from the ropes for a while, but that was it. Cotto's lack of foot movement and the ability to land anything significant was his downfall. Floyd paced himself through the fight, like a long distance runner you have to get the distance, so you pace it out and if that meant losing a couple of rounds then he was prepared to do that. Cotto couldn't quite land that big shot that would change Mayweather's fight plan. Mayweather stepped it up in that final round and looked like he could've done that at any time. There is no shame for Cotto here, i look forward to his next challenge, he is a great fighter.

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Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN

I fully understand that Cotto fans are not happy he was beaten (not happy he was beaten, but I accepted the fact from the beginning), i'm a Cotto fan too, but i cannot see how he even came close to really troubling Floyd. It was a good fight and Cotto did his best to put pressure on Floyd and he was active throughout, but he didn't land enough, he looked good when Floyd decided to show bravado and fight from the ropes for a while, but that was it. Cotto's lack of foot movement and the ability to land anything significant was his downfall. (His lack of "anything significant" caused Floyd to bleed from his nose and created detectable mouses under both eyes. Normally Floyd's face shows no signs of battle (hence, the nickname "Pretty Boy") Floyd paced himself through the fight, like a long distance runner you have to get the distance, so you pace it out and if that meant losing a couple of rounds then he was prepared to do that. Cotto couldn't quite land that big shot that would change Mayweather's fight plan. Mayweather stepped it up in that final round and looked like he could've done that at any time. (Again with the "cruising", "taking rounds off" argument. So he purposely coasted so the fight could last 12 rounds? What a showman! Look... he caught Cotto good in the last round. He saw that... he went for it. Before that... Cotto was pressuring him into the ropes. Oh... I'm sorry. Floyd was allowing Cotto to put him against the ropes and punish him.)There is no shame for Cotto here, i look forward to his next challenge, he is a great fighter.

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Happens all the time. The judges decision was wide... so obviously the fight was one-sided. Floyd was coasting. He was bored. He could've finished Cotto at any time. Floyd LET it last 12 rounds. Cotto had nothing to do with it. Amazing what a couple of days after the fight will do to some people's perception.

And for the record... no, Cotto didn't land enough. Nobody that fights Floyd ever does. The guy has amazing defense, and his rolling shoulder technique should be patented... he does it so good. Cotto tried some good right hands, but they sailed over Floyd's head. He went to the body... but in retrospect he should have used the left to the body more. Some of Floyd's showy rights to Cotto's head were blocked.... but admittedly looked good and accumulated points. People thought Cotto couldn't box with Floyd. He did. People thought Floyd would steamroller Cotto. He didn't. People thought Cotto woudn't get a fair shake from the judges, win or lose. They were SO right.

No fan-boyism... no nothing. Just saying it like I saw it (and a lot of other people, too).

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Originally Posted by TitoFan

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Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN

I fully understand that Cotto fans are not happy he was beaten (not happy he was beaten, but I accepted the fact from the beginning), i'm a Cotto fan too, but i cannot see how he even came close to really troubling Floyd. It was a good fight and Cotto did his best to put pressure on Floyd and he was active throughout, but he didn't land enough, he looked good when Floyd decided to show bravado and fight from the ropes for a while, but that was it. Cotto's lack of foot movement and the ability to land anything significant was his downfall. (His lack of "anything significant" caused Floyd to bleed from his nose and created detectable mouses under both eyes. Normally Floyd's face shows no signs of battle (hence, the nickname "Pretty Boy") Floyd paced himself through the fight, like a long distance runner you have to get the distance, so you pace it out and if that meant losing a couple of rounds then he was prepared to do that. Cotto couldn't quite land that big shot that would change Mayweather's fight plan. Mayweather stepped it up in that final round and looked like he could've done that at any time. (Again with the "cruising", "taking rounds off" argument. So he purposely coasted so the fight could last 12 rounds? What a showman! Look... he caught Cotto good in the last round. He saw that... he went for it. Before that... Cotto was pressuring him into the ropes. Oh... I'm sorry. Floyd was allowing Cotto to put him against the ropes and punish him.)There is no shame for Cotto here, i look forward to his next challenge, he is a great fighter.

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Happens all the time. The judges decision was wide... so obviously the fight was one-sided. Floyd was coasting. He was bored. He could've finished Cotto at any time. Floyd LET it last 12 rounds. Cotto had nothing to do with it. Amazing what a couple of days after the fight will do to some people's perception.

And for the record... no, Cotto didn't land enough. Nobody that fights Floyd ever does. The guy has amazing defense, and his rolling shoulder technique should be patented... he does it so good. Cotto tried some good right hands, but they sailed over Floyd's head. He went to the body... but in retrospect he should have used the left to the body more. Some of Floyd's showy rights to Cotto's head were blocked.... but admittedly looked good and accumulated points. People thought Cotto couldn't box with Floyd. He did. People thought Floyd would steamroller Cotto. He didn't. People thought Cotto woudn't get a fair shake from the judges, win or lose. They were SO right.

No fan-boyism... no nothing. Just saying it like I saw it (and a lot of other people, too).

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Your loyalty is unquestionable. "It's so much darker when a light goes out than it would have been if it had never shone" ~ Steinbeck

Miguel Cotto will shine again and we will both be happy about it.

I personally dont think you could give Cotto more than 4 rounds in that fight..which is still pretty amazing. Cotto did however embarass Floyd in round 8. I've never seen Floyd outboxed but thats exactly what happened. Cotto hit and didn't get hit. Floyds frustrated smile told the story.
Also Cotto should be commended for landing much more than is normal for an opponent of money..all whilst bringing down Floyds usual connect percentage.

You bring up some good points, Althugz. Honestly, I'm gonna have to watch the fight again and score it again. I gave Cotto 5 rounds when watching it Saturday night, but I want to watch it again, more "clinically" this time.

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I do think there were some telling stats in there which point out the fact that it wasn't the landslide some observers (including the judges) made it out to be.

I guess I can count myself lucky I was watching a Romanian stream :D

Worst commentary I've ever heard...and I've had to listen to the likes of John Rawling and Duke Mkenzie for years...

Ill admit that Bob Sheridan goes overboard in his commentating. But I saw it very similiar, a lot of what Cotto threw didnt hit. And just coz this is the most mayweather has been hit in yrs doesnt mean you win the fight coz of that, theres no award for hitting mayweather more than the other guy...it just means you landed a little more than anyone in a while...while getting a boxing lesson. I felt that Floyd could of ended it any time he wanted to but chose to just coast. We saw in the 12th that any time floyd opened up he was a legit chance of hurting cotto.

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Originally Posted by Snakey

Ill admit that Bob Sheridan goes overboard in his commentating. But I saw it very similiar, a lot of what Cotto threw didnt hit. And just coz this is the most mayweather has been hit in yrs doesnt mean you win the fight coz of that, theres no award for hitting mayweather more than the other guy...it just means you landed a little more than anyone in a while...while getting a boxing lesson. I felt that Floyd could of ended it any time he wanted to but chose to just coast. We saw in the 12th that any time floyd opened up he was a legit chance of hurting cotto.

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Is anybody saying that Cotto won the fight? Punches were landing to the body and we were told 'they are all missing'. It just wasn't true. Just because Floyd finally wore his man out did not mean he could have taken out Cotto anytime. I hate arguments like that. If he could done, he would have done, but nadda. Just overdoing the Floyd lush thing.

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Originally Posted by Snakey

Ill admit that Bob Sheridan goes overboard in his commentating. But I saw it very similiar, a lot of what Cotto threw didnt hit. And just coz this is the most mayweather has been hit in yrs doesnt mean you win the fight coz of that, theres no award for hitting mayweather more than the other guy...it just means you landed a little more than anyone in a while...while getting a boxing lesson. I felt that Floyd could of ended it any time he wanted to but chose to just coast. We saw in the 12th that any time floyd opened up he was a legit chance of hurting cotto.

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Is anybody saying that Cotto won the fight? Punches were landing to the body and we were told 'they are all missing'. It just wasn't true. Just because Floyd finally wore his man out did not mean he could have taken out Cotto anytime. I hate arguments like that. If he could done, he would have done, but nadda. Just overdoing the Floyd lush thing.

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You beat me to it, miles. I'm tired of rehashing the same stuff over and over. No... Cotto did not win the fight. No... Cotto's punches didn't ALL miss. That's absurd. If that's the case, the wind must've caused Floyd's nosebleed. No... Floyd was not "coasting" and letting Cotto last out the 12 rounds. Absolute nonsense. But new posts like these continue to come up. Whatever.

To be honest it looked to me at first that Floyd was coasting at some point (after hurting Cotto and not pressing the attack) but I think it was more to do with Floyd conserving his energy.

Yea i thought the commentary was very bad, i mean in the first few rounds Floyd was thowing combo's but just hitting Cotto's gloves they were making it sound like these punches were landing clean, saying things like 'wow another 3 punch combanation from the master how can you defend againt this' i was like he is defending?
I think they made there minds up from the moment the bell rang in the first round who's side they were on

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Originally Posted by Jimanuel Boogustus

To be honest it looked to me at first that Floyd was coasting at some point (after hurting Cotto and not pressing the attack) but I think it was more to do with Floyd conserving his energy.

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Watched it again and i still have it a draw or 7-5 to Floyd, who was certainly not finding it easy in the ring with Cotto.