Joe Biden vs Paul Ryan - the VP debate - lets score it!

This deserves a separate thread, next up the debate between Vice President Joe Biden and Congressman Paul Ryan tomorrow night. Considering what's at stake, this debate should be well worth watching.

Topic: Foreign and domestic policy
Air Time: 9:00-10:30 p.m. Eastern Time - October 11th.
Location: Centre College in Danville, Kentucky.
Moderator: Martha Raddatz (ABC News Chief Foreign Correspondent)

I hope Ryan tears this liberal dip-shit Biden a new asshole.

Opinions of Biden low before VP debate - CBS News

2012 Presidential Debate Schedule � 2012 Election Central

This is going to be like a Drunk Canadian vs a baby fur seal

Wondering how much flipping will be going on tomorrow night. We already know the campaign is doing a complete turn around on it's primary platform. Just recently Mitt changing his stance on abortion, or at least giving muddled responses to appear sympathetic to moderates...ya know, like he used to believe in, but then didn't because he was needing the far right social conservatives during primaries. But now, well, he needs moderates so who knows...

My guess, Ryan will begin tomorrow night doing the same. But what issue? Again, could be anything with these guys. Oh, hey, didn't Obama recently come out in support of LGBTs? Yea. So, prepare for anything, is all I'm saying.











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Originally Posted by Youngblood

Wondering how much flipping will be going on tomorrow night. We already know the campaign is doing a complete turn around on it's primary platform. Just recently Mitt changing his stance on abortion, or at least giving muddled responses to appear sympathetic to moderates...ya know, like he used to believe in, but then didn't because he was needing the far right social conservatives during primaries. But now, well, he needs moderates so who knows...

My guess, Ryan will begin tomorrow night doing the same. But what issue? Again, could be anything with these guys. Oh, hey, didn't Obama recently come out in support of LGBTs? Yea. So, prepare for anything, is all I'm saying.

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All politicians "flip" a bit, changing position doesn't per-say make them a liar.

I probably watched a total of 10 minutes of the 3 McCain vs BO debates in '08, I lean Republican but could not get behind McCain who was a lamer. (not that I liked BO any better)
As for Palin vs. Biden, I didn't even bother turning it on, they were showing re-runs of "lassie come home" that night which was far more interesting. (Timmy falls down the fucking well again)

Ryan vs. Biden should be great theater, i'm looking forward to this Thursday night, it's definitely worth a beer or two. I really believe Ryan will be up to the task, and Biden will look like what he is = a fool.

Ya know, I kind of liked McCain. He wasn't afraid to stand up and tell people to quit being retarded with all the stupid "ZOMG he's a Muslim" stuff and scare tactics being fed to them back in 08, and he tried to get people to focus on the issues he believed were true. He wasn't afraid to tell Obama what he thought of his policies and attack his lack of experience. He seemed overall genuine. Just not a great politician which was a shame. If he had a different VP pick he might be in office now.

Plus he had a real enthusiasm for fixing the broken and corrupt sport of boxing we love, which was close to his heart. He was a war hero. I did and still do respect him.

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Ya know, I kind of liked McCain. He wasn't afraid to stand up and tell people to quit being retarded with all the stupid "ZOMG he's a Muslim" stuff and scare tactics being fed to them back in 08, and he tried to get people to focus on the issues he believed were true. He wasn't afraid to tell Obama what he thought of his policies and attack his lack of experience. He seemed overall genuine. Just not a great politician which was a shame. If he had a different VP pick he might be in office now.

Plus he had a real enthusiasm for fixing the broken and corrupt sport of boxing we love, which was close to his heart. He was a war hero. I did and still do respect him.

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I liked McCain well enough personally, at the time I just didn't feel like he had the brains needed to lead this country, and yeah Palin was a fucking dig-bat. In retro, if I had to do it again, I would have voted for McCain, anything would have been better than BO, Hillary and the other libs. And yeah, McCain was a boxing fan, gotta love him for that.

Ryan is expecting some mud slinging, the thing about Biden is he's not well liked, he's only got a 39% approval rating. All Ryan has to do is hold his own, and let Biden hang himself. ;)

Ryan: Biden is going to come 'flying' in debate

The VP debate starts @ 9:00-10:30 p.m. Eastern Time - tonight - :)

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Just wanted to add: No matter how shitty Biden looks in the debate tonight, afterwards BO and the libs will pretend he just hit a "home-run". The problem is everyone else will see right through that bullshit.

bump - for any of you interested, the VP debate starts in about 40 minutes or @ 9:00 PM ET.

I'm going to catch the evening rerun here as I'm just to busy to watch it properly now. I do laugh at 'political analysts' though. Honestly, anything to keep the 'drama' going until election day. So it all boils down to a few debate shootouts at dawn. Ah, how American! So cute! ;D

Its not Alvarado v Rios, but I'm sure they'll give us some reason to drink.

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I'm going to catch the evening rerun here as I'm just to busy to watch it properly now. I do laugh at 'political analysts' though. Honestly, anything to keep the 'drama' going until election day. So it all boils down to a few debate shootouts at dawn. Ah, how American! So cute! ;D

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Be nice miles.. :usa:

Biden is a fucking asshole, and he keeps talking over and interrupting Ryan - and the moderator is letting him and losing control.

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Biden's interuptions are annoying.

Ryan needs....pause....to learn to talk....pause....in run on sentences....pause.

I was honest about the Presidential debate...... I'm gonna be honest now.
The debate is still on-going, but Biden is having a better showing than Obama did.
I wish Obama would've shown half the spunk Biden is showing.
If I were to choose, I think so far he's kicking Ryan's butt.

If I were Biden i'd quit that annoying grin, it makes him look like a jackass. He keeps disrespecting Ryan by calling him "my friend".

This fucking moderator has totally lost control, and she seems bias for Biden.

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I was honest about the Presidential debate...... I'm gonna be honest now.
The debate is still on-going, but Biden is having a better showing than Obama did.
I wish Obama would've shown half the spunk Biden is showing.
If I were to choose, I think so far he's kicking Ryan's butt.

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Not really the moderator is just allowing him to interrupt.

According to Joe Biden there has been a lot of "loose talk"

Ryan looks like a sputtering kook if I'm honest. Little bit over his head. Way to much of would have should have.

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Originally Posted by Spicoli

Ryan looks like a sputtering kook if I'm honest. Little bit over his head. Way to much of would have should have.

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He did ok, considering he's a young guy with little debate experience.

I'm gonna watch a little of the post debate talk, and see who was thought to win.

Biden was running on the spot fact checking. Meaning, every time Ryan started to spout some bullshit Biden just jumped in (interrupted) and called it just that. Was it cordial? Naw. Maybe even rude. But he sure jumped in a lot! Because there is/was that much BS coming from other side.


Biden did a good job. Too much smiling and all that, but that is style. Elections shouldn't be about style, but about substance. When he talked it was all substance and Ryan had no good answer for that.

Doubt it will do much for the polls. But it was good tv. Obama had better have been paying attention and taking notes unless he wants to kiss the election goodbye.

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Ryan looks like a sputtering kook if I'm honest. Little bit over his head. Way to much of would have should have.

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He did ok, considering he's a young guy with little debate experience.

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I agree all and all. Just almost like he, Ryan, was reading a prep sheet live and never stopped smiling-smirking. The first question was huge though...great with 'Failure' in Libya by moderator and Ryan was very strong there. Biden got 'loud' too but if Obama ever misses his own sac maybe he can borrows Bidens. Second to last question about a real veteran being disenfranchised about 'negative' tone of both sides and how to 'win' interest over bugged the shit outta me...Ryan just turned it into a campaign add and only whats wrong with other side. Duh.

basically:

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No clear winner really, but just the fact that Biden held his own and then some, might help the Dems some but not much. I believe voters will come away from the debate seeing Ryan more favorably, in other words, ultimately the Repubs will benefit most, mainly because Biden is not very likable. Ryan's youth and inexperience will be forgiven as well.

The Dems are going to say Biden won the "debate" no matter what, but it's hard to know how the Independent/undecided voters will feel. I can't imagine why anyone would want 4 more years of BO and Biden.

I hate them quite a lot but IMO, Biden won that one hands down, he was more eloquent, won on the psychology department with his cutting smile and his explanations were all around better articulated. Fuck this old prick still.

HAIR SWITCH TIME!






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Holyshit :-X Ryan looks a lil Max Kellerman there. Biden looks like he's about to shoot someones kitten

Biden kicked his ass. Was waiting for the towel.

After the debate I felt I had gotten to know all about Ryan's family and friends... as he had a touching personal anecdote for just about every topic. He might be young and inexperienced, which of course is hardly his fault.

But as with Romney... I can't shake the feeling that I'm looking and listening to a used-car salesman.
"Just 'cause it's you (wink-wink)... I'll let you drive off with this baby for a song."

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I hate them quite a lot but IMO, Biden won that one hands down, he was more eloquent, won on the psychology department with his cutting smile and his explanations were all around better articulated. Fuck this old prick still.

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Consensus is Biden re-energized the Dems' and many feel like he won the debate. The thing is, he came off as a patronizing, rude, annoying, jackass. Can you imagine this asshole becoming President if BO died in office? Other then energizing his party, I really doubt that Biden's performance is going to help get BO more votes in November.
All things considered, this debate won't change much, but the next 2 between Romney and BO could make a huge difference.

Biden did as much as he could do, he did look like an ass what with the smiling and laughing as Paul Ryan is talking about Libya and our dead countrymen. What Biden did best was he kept Ryan from going into detail and owning the debate due to his constant interruptions.

Overall, it might slow down the slide of the Obama/Biden ticket but it's not as important as the past and future Presidential debates....Obama had best show up if he would like to keep his job.


The race is SEEMINGLY close, but IMO things don't look good for Obama. He got schooled by Mitt Romney in the first debate on every single issue, Joe Biden only truly won about half the debate and he did so looking either like an asshole or someone who is mental and you don't want to be 1 heartbeat from the Presidency, and frankly the economic news whether they say unemployment is 7.8% or 2% people aren't feeling that...people are feeling like we gave a guy we thought would help us out a chance and he's not followed up on any of his promises and we'll see that come November

Every time Ryan started bullshitting Biden interrupted. There was a lot of bullshitting so there were a lot of interruptions. I watched a ten minute highlight video of it, didn't see the whole debate. I thought the bit where Biden asked Ryan why he wrote two letters asking for stimulus funds was good.

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Every time Ryan started bullshitting Biden interrupted. There was a lot of bullshitting so there were a lot of interruptions. I watched a ten minute highlight video of it, didn't see the whole debate. I thought the bit where Biden asked Ryan why he wrote two letters asking for stimulus funds was good.

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I liked the part where Joe Biden explained about what happened in Libya best :vd:

I tuned in about 30 minutes into it, watch 10 minutes and couldn't take anymore.