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Ok, so I waited for someone to start this up,but I guess everyone’s sulking because the Wilder fight never happened.
But I seriously believe Povetkin is gonna cause Joshua a World of problems. Maybe by fight time , I might even be predicting a Povetkin victory. Thoughts?
I don't know, povetkins pretty old now and he hasnt been looking as good as when he was on his March to becoming the wbc mandatory. Still managed a nice knockout of price though. I think the only way povetkin wins is if joshua totally underestimates him and buggers around in training. Povetkin has a solid head too so I would suspect he will survive till the later rounds before the ref stops it.
Wilder fight is the elephant in the room and no one really cares about this match. Sky will hype the shit out of this fight, Wilder will make noise and be ignored.
Got to be worth a few quid on a Povetkin sparkage. Yes Price had him going a bit and if there was time he might have had a shot at winning. But that doesn't change the fact that Povetkin throws a mean left hook and Joshua aint too clever at getting out of the way of them. If he gets one home, AJ is in trouble, anyone would be.
Everyone wants to see Joshua back to banging people out, but this might be a right glove glued to the chin job.
Russia hacked Povetkin.
Povetkin KO 1
At the minute Pov is 9/1 to win via KOQuote:
Originally Posted by Memphis
I think it'll be a good, entertaining match. Hoping Povetkin doesn't f*ck up and get caught cheating.
AJ's 22nd fight will be his sixth world title defence, in front of 100,000 fans at Wembley, against a top heavyweight.
Deontay Wilder's 22nd fight was in a hotel in Cancun, Mexico that holds 2,500 fans. His opponent, Jesse Oltmanns, had fought once in the previous eight years.
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This says it all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Freedom
Wilder might be fighting the white rhino next or possibly A.Harrison 2.
AJ calls the shots whether we like it or not..
Every time I hear/read people call this fight a gimme it's a cert they're either an "America is the bestest" or a British AJ/Hearn hater. Wilder is the sexy fight for AJ, for sure, but not necessarily the hardest.
Povetkin - ignoring all the juice lark - hasn't been a top heavyweight since the 1936 Olympics through luck. Along with his great chin and sparko power the man has a serious boxing brain, winner/killer mentality and has beaten every style in the book. He brings much more to the table than an uncultivated, albeit lethal, right hand.
Oh and Povetkin shouldn't be 9/1 to win, no way Jose
I've said for a while Povetkin will give Joshua problems and I'm looking forward to this one.
I will certainly be putting some money on a Povetkin ko. This guy is no mug
It's a step up on recent opposition.
Joshua was involved in expletive-laden exchanges at one of the now customary press conference face-offs this week - but it didn't involve Povetkin.
Instead, Joshua had to square up to another boxer, Jarrell 'Big Baby' Miller, after the American invaded the stage in New York during the launch of DAZN.
Joshua, who has until now cultivated a clean-cut image rather than engage in the customary trash talk, shouted at Miller: "Who you f------ talking to, shut the f--- up and get off the stage, you little b----. I'll slap you. Have some respect."
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Miller has wanted to face Joshua for a while now. He is ranked No 3 with the IBF and WBA and remains a viable opponent for Joshua.
"I walked up on him, and whispered behind him: 'you're a punk, let's make it happen'," Miller later told Sky Sports.
"I'm not Dominic Breazeale, man. I want it. I would whoop him at Wembley.
"Listen Britain - you've seen fake models. You'll see the real model, the people's champ, not the one-time English champ. The world champ - that's me."
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I bet Povetkin fails another drug test
Ortiz and Povetkin should be permanently banned from the sport..hope AJ destroys him.
Did anybody notice how cold and focused Povetkin was? He just stood there waiting for all the bullshit to die out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Big Baby needs to drop some of the baby weight. I like him as a fighter but come on man, get serious, be a professional you'll last longer and do better in the sport!
If the AJ-Povetkin fight actually happens, I think it might have one or two explosive rounds but it'll be a cagey match. There's a small chance Povetkin gets absolutely knocked cold, there's a similar chance he stops AJ early, I believe AJ will look to avoid Povetkin's early attacks and take control over the later rounds. Povetkin MUST keep his hands free, he MUST keep his balance, he MUST keep his head moving...I think at this time AJ is not as focused as Wlad was when he fought Povetkin, it could mean a loss, it could mean a lackluster fight, it could mean nothing, but I believe there's more of an opportunity for Povetkin now but the problem is Povetkin is older, slower, and there's mountains of video of the guy fighting and his fighting style so it gives AJ plenty of opportunity to practice and prepare.
I'm going to say IF they fight Povetkin will be valiant but out gunned...AJ may get shook a time or two (probably not) but he'll play the long game and slowly wear Povetkin down for either a wide UD or a late but unsurprising stoppage.
Wilder needs to get out there and fight some names, get on the ball my man.
Yes just like Drago in the Rocky film. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraDid anybody notice how cold and focused Povetkin was? He just stood there waiting for all the bullshit to die out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
AJ will batter him. Povetkin's best years are way behind him and without the juice he will be lucky to survive.
Povetkin will be lucky to last 6 rounds.
Outside of Wlad I consider this AJ's toughest opponent.
In saying that Povetkin is no spring chicken and hasn't really been pushed since his PED saga, so we don't really know how much he has slipped.
In my opinion Povetkin is very live opponent.
I also see AJ playing it safe until the opportunity presents itself, unless AJ wobbles Sasha I think he keeps it tight and contained, boxing a smart game plan.
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LMAO....... the blubbery "Big Baby" wanting to steal some of AJ's and Povetkin's thunder Rocky cliche movie style.
That's the only thing he's good for, disrupting events that aren't his..... 'cause he sure as shit can't fight.
Get in line and grab a number, Fat Boy.
I'll give it to Miller, it beats doing it on twitter and lame videos counting 'likes'. Also step in right direction as Miller just opted to go wba route and top 3 across the board for AJ..I smell something cooking :scratchchin:. Povetkin should not be slept on.
is teddy still training Povetkin? This is an interesting enough gatekeeper fight, but enormously more interesting had it happened years ago.
No that ended a couple years ago....I think even before the Wlad fight. Teddy like Povetkin and Povetkin liked Teddy but the entourage with Povetkin made that relationship untenable.Quote:
Originally Posted by hfahrenheit
I'd really like for Teddy or Kevin Rooney to get another top fighter out there. Everyone loves that style of fighter especially at the heavyweight level. I don't think there have been many since Tyson who have had enough explosive speed and power to do well with that style.
Rooney is a good question. Can't remember much except him with Jeremy Williams early. They packaged him same seek and destroy style, all jokes aside Williams could punch, fire in the belly and fast but his achilles heel was that achilles chin. I think what gets less billing with Tyson was his reflex and speed and cannot see anyone today with the systems engrained in them. The guy could knock down chimneys but his delivery and placement were exceptional under them.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongNo that ended a couple years ago....I think even before the Wlad fight. Teddy like Povetkin and Povetkin liked Teddy but the entourage with Povetkin made that relationship untenable.Quote:
Originally Posted by hfahrenheit
I'd really like for Teddy or Kevin Rooney to get another top fighter out there. Everyone loves that style of fighter especially at the heavyweight level. I don't think there have been many since Tyson who have had enough explosive speed and power to do well with that style.
Leonard Pierre Anasta a Middleweight/Jr Middleweight from Haiti and Thomas Hayes a heavyweight from Chicago were guys who Rooney was training and had SOME success before finding their level.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliRooney is a good question. Can't remember much except him with Jeremy Williams early. They packaged him same seek and destroy style, all jokes aside Williams could punch, fire in the belly and fast but his achilles heel was that achilles chin. I think what gets less billing with Tyson was his reflex and speed and cannot see anyone today with the systems engrained in them. The guy could knock down chimneys but his delivery and placement were exceptional under them.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongNo that ended a couple years ago....I think even before the Wlad fight. Teddy like Povetkin and Povetkin liked Teddy but the entourage with Povetkin made that relationship untenable.Quote:
Originally Posted by hfahrenheit
I'd really like for Teddy or Kevin Rooney to get another top fighter out there. Everyone loves that style of fighter especially at the heavyweight level. I don't think there have been many since Tyson who have had enough explosive speed and power to do well with that style.
Maybe Rooney should work with the amateurs more IDK. That style has it's pros and cons, but when it's effective it's a glorious thing to behold. With heavyweights being taller and lankier than ever a style where you give such a small target and come in "under the radar" so to speak would be very nice for smaller or shorter heavyweights.
Get out of here with that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
He's either faced or signed to fight 6 of the top 7 ranked fighters plus Wladimir Klitschko. Literally the only guy he hasn't faced or tried to fight is Ortiz and even then, Ortiz was signed by Matchroom and had ample opportunity to impress on Matchroom cards, but stank the place out- killing any potential AJ fight.
Wlad was shot and who were these other opponents? Would Povetkin not have beaten them too? Maybe Povetkin is shot too though. James Toney eats Joshua for breakfast.
That is because James Toney eats everything for breakfast.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
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C'mon Miles. Wlad was not shot. :rolleyes: The famous "catch-all" for all fighters who lose.
Wlad was the most energized I had seen in years. After more than a decade of peek-a-boo fighting against terrified opponents and a "holy hell" stinker against Fury...... Wlad came to fight. It was like someone had stolen Wlad's body and decided to do something with it. The best heavyweight championship fight since before Wlad's boring reign, and I thank both fighters for it. Wlad may have been a little long in the tooth, though certainly not for today's HW division. But he was absolutely not shot.
Matty Askin to defend British cruiserweight title vs. Lawrence Okolie on Joshua vs. Povetkin undercard
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Matty Askin is set to return to the ring, defending his British cruiserweight title vs. Lawrence Okolie at Wembley Stadium on Sept. 22. The bout is featured as part of the Anthony Joshua vs. Alexander Povetkin undercard.
Askin, 23-3-1 (15 KOs) enters the bout on a five-fight winning streak, last defeating Stephen Simmons in March. Okolie, undefeated in nine professional fights, is facing his highest profile opponent in the championship opportunity.
"This announcement is a fantastic day for me,” Okolie said "My ultimate goal is to be the unified World Champion but before that I want to go down the traditional route, clean up domestically and prove to myself and the fans that I belong at that level.
"Matty Askin is a very experienced fighter who is ranked in the top 10 in the world. I want to start making my way towards the World scene and so I need to be able to beat people like Askin to do that."
Askin, 29, is making his second defense of the title after winning the strap from Craig Kennedy in May 2017. He has held the British Boxing Board of Control (BBBofC) cruiserweight title in the past, but lost it on separate occassions.
"Every credit to Okolie, he’s vacated the Commonwealth title because he wants this fight but he’s going to end up flat on his back,” Askin said. “I can punch, I can box, and I can have a fight. I’ll do whatever I need to do against him to get the win. I don’t think it will go past four or five rounds, it definitely won’t go the distance.
“We’re both going to come out all guns blazing, it’s as simple as that. He’s going to come out thinking’s he’s going to bang me out straight away. I’m looking to go out there and tear his head off. I’ll be going in there and giving 110 percent, my 110 percent beats his 110 percent every day of the week. I believe that I’m a level above him.”
Okolie, 25, the current Commonwealth (British Empire) cruiserweight title and the WBA continental cruiserweight title holders, has stopped seven opponents inside the distance.
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Luke Campbell: Former Olympic champion to fight Yvan Mendy in September rematch
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Luke Campbell will have the chance to avenge his "devastating" defeat by Yvan Mendy in a rematch with the Frenchman on 22 September at Wembley.
Lightweight former Olympic champion Campbell suffered his first career loss when he was beaten by Mendy in 2015.
Mendy, 33, is ranked number one at lightweight with the WBC and is undefeated since 2015.
Campbell, 30, said: "I'm bigger, I'm wiser, I'm 10 times better than I was when he beat me three years ago."
The fight, a WBC lightweight world title final eliminator, will be on the undercard of Anthony Joshua's heavyweight bout with Russian Alexander Povetkin.
American Mikey Garcia, 30, is the WBC lightweight world champion.
Campbell has been training with Shane McGuigan, who previously worked with David Haye and Carl Frampton and led George Groves to the WBA super-middleweight title.
"I've already struck up a great relationship with Shane and I have no doubt that he is going to take me to the next level," Campbell said.
"I want to become a world champion and Shane has a proven track record of achieving that with his fighters."
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Very solid card so far.
Both AJ and Povetkin have been getting quality sparring for this fight. Both should be in excellent condition. Looking forward to this one.
I hope Povetkin knocks him out. And then knocks out Wilder and then goes to the Kremlin for a shot of vodka and a bear hug with Putin. Show them the new world order.
And then of course the great James Toney comeback to put them all in their places. I am sick of all these upstarts who didn't even have the decency to start at MW. Calzaghe beats them all even now. Next!
I watched Toney/McCallum again earlier, its such a good fight. Scored it 115-113 Toney.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
I had the body snatchers winning the first 2 fights.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlphaI watched Toney/McCallum again earlier, its such a good fight. Scored it 115-113 Toney.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
Yea very close fights.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterI had the body snatchers winning the first 2 fights.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlphaI watched Toney/McCallum again earlier, its such a good fight. Scored it 115-113 Toney.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
The skill, experience and ring craft on show in the first fight in particular was a privilege and joy to watch. It was for the Ring/Hagler/liniel middleweight title as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlphaYea very close fights.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterI had the body snatchers winning the first 2 fights.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlphaI watched Toney/McCallum again earlier, its such a good fight. Scored it 115-113 Toney.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf