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Wilder vs Fury: Who wins and how?
Coming right up, @Alpha ;D Surprised it hadn't been put up already.
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Re: Wilder vs Fury: Who wins and how?
I think Fury starts well as Wilder sizes him up. Then when he is ready he is going to turn it up and test that chin. I think Fury gets knocked out as his only big win was a very old Wlad and his legs seem awkward since coming back. It's something I saw in Hatton too in that last fight. His feet were wrong and it was a man too used to being much heavier. This is Fury stepping up to that level and I think he will get stopped too. Decent start but will quickly unravel when he sees Wilder is a proper athlete and hits hard.
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Re: Wilder vs Fury: Who wins and how?
I'll leave my vote until a little closer to fight time, but I will say that Wilder wins.
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Re: Wilder vs Fury: Who wins and how?
I would not mind Fury winning but think it is too soon for the lummox to take on Wilder after being out of the game so long.
The smart money would be on Wilder late after Fury gasses out.
Fury is desperately trying the mind games but they will not work.
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Gandalf
I think Fury starts well as Wilder sizes him up. Then when he is ready he is going to turn it up and test that chin. I think Fury gets knocked out as his only big win was a very old Wlad and his legs seem awkward since coming back. It's something I saw in Hatton too in that last fight. His feet were wrong and it was a man too used to being much heavier. This is Fury stepping up to that level and I think he will get stopped too. Decent start but will quickly unravel when he sees Wilder is a proper athlete and hits hard.
I see your point, it's worrying and I do think it's a little early for fury to take the fight but fuck it I'm sticking with Fury.
Regarding Wlad's age, do you give credit to Joshua for beating him? because he beat an even older, more inactive version of Wlad and was almost put to sleep. So if we are going by big wins then Fury is a better fighter than Wilder and AJ.
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Re: Wilder vs Fury: Who wins and how?
It will be an amazing thing if Wilder hits Fury cleanly enough to finish him. But Fury has been down on the floor before against Steve Cunningham.... So he can be clipped, even though he came back to win by KO- Not an exciting KO, but a good enough KO.
Maybe Fury has not gotten back into fight shape at that level yet. To be honest, since he beat Wlad- which may have been a good night for him and the best night of his life- he has not fought or beaten anyone worth a pinch.
Maybe Fury has bluffed his way into making a good pay day? lololol....
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Let's be honest here to, making it to the end of the fight with Wlad ain't the hardest thing in the world to do. The punch output for that Wlad v Fury fight was not a barn-burning affair. Ya know? Not even close to a Tua v Ibeabuchi level. lolol....
Fury just out-paced Wlad with a bit of youth and stood out of his way- and did not get hugged to death like Jennings or Povetkin.
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Re: Wilder vs Fury: Who wins and how?
I'll also leave it to nearer fight time.
If in shape Tyson can do it I have no doubt - but not sure he will be in world title fight shape (or can be again). I was hoping this kind of fight wast at least a year away for him.
I am firmly in his corner
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Re: Wilder vs Fury: Who wins and how?
Tyson Fury: TOO BIG TO FAIL
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Re: Wilder vs Fury: Who wins and how?
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ykdadamaja
Let's be honest here to, making it to the end of the fight with Wlad ain't the hardest thing in the world to do. The punch output for that Wlad v Fury fight was not a barn-burning affair. Ya know? Not even close to a Tua v Ibeabuchi level. lolol....
Fury just out-paced Wlad with a bit of youth and stood out of his way- and did not get hugged to death like Jennings or Povetkin.
Outpacing? Lmao that isn't how Fury won that fight at all
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ykdadamaja
Let's be honest here to, making it to the end of the fight with Wlad ain't the hardest thing in the world to do. The punch output for that Wlad v Fury fight was not a barn-burning affair. Ya know? Not even close to a Tua v Ibeabuchi level. lolol....
Fury just out-paced Wlad with a bit of youth and stood out of his way- and did not get hugged to death like Jennings or Povetkin.
Outpacing? Lmao that isn't how Fury won that fight at all
I think they tied to yawn each other into submission it was a horrid fight
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Re: Wilder vs Fury: Who wins and how?
Fury goes down in the 1st round for an 8 count.
White knuckle moment.
Survives.
Boxes, makes adjustments, jabs well.
Wins rounds 2, 3, 4, 5, and 6 with head movement, jabs, lots of stiff jabs, Wilder getting more desperate by the round.
Wilder goes for broke in the 7th, hurts Fury with a straight right, Fury fights back, catches Wilder with an upperfuckingcut sweet as pie, pumpkin pie, LIGHTS OUT.
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Re: Wilder vs Fury: Who wins and how?
Seriously @brocktonblockbust ? :rolleyes: ;D
I take it you've never voted on a poll in Saddo's before?
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Re: Wilder vs Fury: Who wins and how?
Tito I'm on my smartphone and I can't see it like when I am on my laptop
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I’m replying from my smart phone also, but will follow up with a vote on my laptop when able. This is a very difficult fight for me to pick for a number of reasons. Fury is very awkward and it will be interesting to see how Wilder’s punch affects a taller man (he may lose power by losing leverage punching down). I was very surprised to see Fury beat Wlad, and while it wasn’t the prettiest or exciting fight I’ve ever seen, it makes me think that Fury can rise to the level of his competition, and much like Bhop was, he is able to tune out the boos to focus solely on getting the win.
All of that being said, I’m picking Wilder because I just think that he fights with passion and excitement that is rarely seen at the upper levels. He is fresh to the sport and fights that way, which is unpredictable and difficult to counter/defend against. He has legitimate one punch power, and is extremely athletic.
The biggest question mark, and the one that ultimately decides my pick, so what Tyson has left after his lay off and mental/drug problems. He may be one of those fighters that thrives in chaos and self destructive behavior, or he may find that his legs are not what they once were. Difficult to tell, and I think this is about as 50/50 of a fight as we can hope for, but I have lean ever so slightly towards Wilder (but won’t be upset or surprised if Fury wins also).
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@mikeeod that is a cracking post I really enjoyed it very well written and very well-thought-out. Plus it also proves that @TitoFan other people cannot seem to contribute to the poll using their smartphone 😋
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mikeeod that is a cracking post I really enjoyed it very well written and very well-thought-out. Plus it also proves that @
TitoFan other people cannot seem to contribute to the poll using their smartphone 😋
Yeah, you still don’t know how to vote on a poll though! ;D;D;D
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@
mikeeod that is a cracking post I really enjoyed it very well written and very well-thought-out. Plus it also proves that @
TitoFan other people cannot seem to contribute to the poll using their smartphone 😋
Yeah, you still don’t know how to vote on a poll though! ;D;D;D
Primo, I think Brock is just hedging his bet. :cool:
By not actually putting his vote down on the poll, he's got an "out" in case he's wrong.
Too bad we've all read his 3,738 posts saying Fury KO 7.
If I could put his name down on the poll I would.
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I just put down a draw. I don’t think it will be a draw, but I was just proving how easy it is to vote on your smartphone! ;D
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Tbh I can't find the poll either
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I have figured it out.
You have to hit the full site button on the bottom of the page in order to see it.
Bless up Brock I gotchu mane
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Slim the BoxingManiac
I have figured it out.
You have to hit the full site button on the bottom of the page in order to see it.
Bless up Brock I gotchu mane
Thx slim--- those 2 Poll Trolls 😎 were making me frustrated 😁
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FINALLY!
Hey bro.... who knows... I may have actually done you a favor. If lighting strikes and Fury knocks out Wilder in the 7th, you can print out the poll results and have them bronzed. ;D
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TitoFan
FINALLY!
Hey bro.... who knows... I may have actually done you a favor. If lighting strikes and Fury knocks out Wilder in the 7th, you can print out the poll results and have them bronzed. ;D
There's only ONE bronze bomber! 🆒
Fixed my phone T. It's all good. 🆗
Tyson KO 7 🆘🆘🆘🎩🎩🎩💣💥👊
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C'mon guys..... this is a BIG fight IF, it happens. Let's say whoever wins gets to grab a big piece of the heavyweight pie from Joshua, who so far has been dismissive of Wilder's measly WBC belt.
No matter how expert we all want to think we are.... the raw reality is anything can happen.
Get your votes in so you can have bragging rights when it's over. ;D
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Re: Wilder vs Fury: Who wins and how?
Frankly, I'm excited, as Wilder proved he has a lot of grit and can dig down deep when he fought Ortiz. I think WIlder can't get to Fury after 6 rounds of trying, MAY floor him once or even twice but Fury shakes it off both times early, like in the 2nd, .......
WIlder then comes out desperate in the 7th, as he is gassing out from chasing and failing to finish The King after 18 minutes of trying increasingly desperately. He comes out in the 7th flailing like something Don Quixote would go for, and Fury ***POUNCES***
Fury KO 7
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Re: Wilder vs Fury: Who wins and how?
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brocktonblockbust
Frankly, I'm excited, as Wilder proved he has a lot of grit and can dig down deep when he fought Ortiz. I think WIlder can't get to Fury after 6 rounds of trying, MAY floor him once or even twice but Fury shakes it off both times early, like in the 2nd, .......
WIlder then comes out desperate in the 7th, as he is gassing out from chasing and failing to finish The King after 18 minutes of trying increasingly desperately. He comes out in the 7th flailing like something Don Quixote would go for, and Fury ***POUNCES***
Fury KO 7
It could happen just like you say, BUT , if Wilder decks Fury once or twice early on as you say, why would he get frustrated after only 6 rounds? Surely if he decks Fury twice in the first 6 rounds, there would be one,maybe two 10-8 rounds, and Wilder would be encouraged and prepared/happy to bide his time, would he not?
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Lets see if Ron makes a prediction ;)
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Alpha
Lets see if Ron makes a prediction ;)
Adidas are great points he would want to bite his time being probably at least 3 points ahead on the cards after those two knockdowns but I think Wilder will be frustrated that he could not finish him and he will also really be gassing. the fact that he is gassing and could not finish him by the end of the sixth will make him want to come out and finish the job faster I think. You don't want a guy who is 6 foot 10 and 20 stone leaning on your skinny little Tommy Hearns legs from round 7 through 12
Adidas are great ;D I love my superstars.
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Alpha
Lets see if Ron makes a prediction ;)
Indeed are great points he would want to bide his time being probably at least 3 points ahead on the cards after those two knockdowns but I think Wilder will be frustrated that he could not finish him and he will also really be gassing. the fact that he is gassing and could not finish him by the end of the sixth will make him want to come out and finish the job faster I think. You don't want a guy who is 6 foot 10 and 20 stone leaning on your skinny little Tommy Hearns legs from round 7 through 12
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C'mon guys...... nobody for Fury by KO? ;D
It isn't entirely impossible. If Fury comes in and performs the boxing match of a lifetime.... and Wilder is unable to solve his unorthodox style.... and if Wilder allows himself to be frustrated by Fury's tactics.... and if Fury manages to avoid The Big Shot..... (lot of "ifs" I know ;D )...... who KNOWS..... this is heavyweight boxing. Anything could happen. I'm sticking to my prediction of Wilder by KO in Rounds 7 through 12. But surely there must be a brave soul out there who really thinks it'll be Fury by KO instead.
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Re: Wilder vs Fury: Who wins and how?
Two weeks left guys. ;D
Two weeks to one of the more anticipated HW title fights in awhile.
The only options I didn't include in the poll were pull-outs by either fighter. I know Wilder won't pull out, barring some catastrophic occurrence.
But frankly, Fury still worries me. And now with this stuff about his dad not being able to make the trip.... I don't know... could provide a handy last-minute excuse.
So far so good, though.
We've all got our predictions (publicly or privately ;D ). But frankly anything can happen in there. Fury can razzle and dazzle with his unorthodox skill, speed, or awkwardness (not to mention height advantage)..... or Wilder can surprise us with some skills of his own and sweep the floor with Fury. We'll just have to see.
I would expect @Alpha to put this one on the Saddo pick thread. :)
C'mon guys..... still time to put your votes in.
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Re: Wilder vs Fury: Who wins and how?
Like many fights, I think this one got hyped up so much that everyone seemed to forget that Fury was at his best almost 4 years ago and has since not boxed and gotten out of shape and has proven nothing inside the ring.
I think that the promoters knew that this could be a big money making fight if hypes right. I’ll for sure watch the fight although no way I’m paying for it. I’ll stream it. Wilder easily wins.
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I think we'll find out if Tyson Fury was sandbagging it vs Pianeta or if he's mentally stable enough to compete at the highest level, there are as many if not more questions about him as there are about Wilder. I think Wilder is probably not impressed with Fury's power at all and so he could be not even worrying about his defense which could be his undoing.
This fight could have ANYTHING happen, Fury could be dominant or dominated, Wilder could be dominant or dominated, Fury could win by early KO, Wilder could just coast to a points win, there could be a DQ, there could be a riot, SI! Amigos falling from the sky El Guapo!
Two undefeated unorthodox fighters, could be fight of the year, could be an absolute shitshow.
I think it'll be a chess match until if/when Wilder connects clean....don't know who wins, but I know that's THE key is Wilder landing with his power and how Fury responds to it.
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Re: Wilder vs Fury: Who wins and how?
I don't see how Wilder wins unless his equalizer lands.
Wilder goes 12 with Stiverne - a decent performance albeit against a fat human statue / subesquently Stiverne gets even fatter and more static.
Molina - gets wobbled and outboxed at times in 9 rounds / subsequently Molina is stopped with ease by AJ and Breazeale.
Duhaupas - takes 11 rounds to get rid of a man subsequently knocked unconcious by Povetkin and schooled by Fat baby.
Szpilka - gets outboxed at times in 9 rounds / subsequently Szpilka is knocked unconcious by Kownaki and struggled with Wach.
Washington - gets outboxed until 5th round KO / subsequently Washington is stopped by Fat Baby.
Ortiz - comes back by the skin of his teeth after the geriatric's zimmer frame buckled in 10 rounds.
If these men - who have done nothing to boost the form - can navigate their way into the later stages and even have success then why wont Fury? He's an expert at using his own superior range/size, slowing fights down and hasn't taken a shot since Cunningham almost decapitated him with a run up and overarm bowl. Jab, jab, jab, switch, turn, switch, jab, clown, Wilder will spend all night with a cocked right hand with nowhere to go.
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Fenster
I don't see how Wilder wins unless his equalizer lands.
Wilder goes 12 with Stiverne - a decent performance albeit against a fat human statue / subesquently Stiverne gets even fatter and more static.
Molina - gets wobbled and outboxed at times in 9 rounds / subsequently Molina is stopped with ease by AJ and Breazeale.
Duhaupas - takes 11 rounds to get rid of a man subsequently knocked unconcious by Povetkin and schooled by Fat baby.
Szpilka - gets outboxed at times in 9 rounds / subsequently Szpilka is knocked unconcious by Kownaki and struggled with Wach.
Washington - gets outboxed until 5th round KO / subsequently Washington is stopped by Fat Baby.
Ortiz - comes back by the skin of his teeth after the geriatric's zimmer frame buckled in 10 rounds.
If these men - who have done nothing to boost the form - can navigate their way into the later stages and even have success then why wont Fury? He's an expert at using his own superior range/size, slowing fights down and hasn't taken a shot since Cunningham almost decapitated him with a run up and overarm bowl. Jab, jab, jab, switch, turn, switch, jab, clown, Wilder will spend all night with a cocked right hand with nowhere to go.
If Fury goes back to his form from 4 years ago then sure. The problem is that boxing is very tough if you aren’t mentally stable. I don’t think that Fury will last until the second half of the fight.
And the one thing all of those fights have in common is that Wilder eventually got to all of them. Other than the first Stiverne fight.
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Fenster
I don't see how Wilder wins unless his equalizer lands.
Wilder goes 12 with Stiverne - a decent performance albeit against a fat human statue / subesquently Stiverne gets even fatter and more static.
Molina - gets wobbled and outboxed at times in 9 rounds / subsequently Molina is stopped with ease by AJ and Breazeale.
Duhaupas - takes 11 rounds to get rid of a man subsequently knocked unconcious by Povetkin and schooled by Fat baby.
Szpilka - gets outboxed at times in 9 rounds / subsequently Szpilka is knocked unconcious by Kownaki and struggled with Wach.
Washington - gets outboxed until 5th round KO / subsequently Washington is stopped by Fat Baby.
Ortiz - comes back by the skin of his teeth after the geriatric's zimmer frame buckled in 10 rounds.
If these men - who have done nothing to boost the form - can navigate their way into the later stages and even have success then why wont Fury? He's an expert at using his own superior range/size, slowing fights down and hasn't taken a shot since Cunningham almost decapitated him with a run up and overarm bowl. Jab, jab, jab, switch, turn, switch, jab, clown, Wilder will spend all night with a cocked right hand with nowhere to go.
If Fury goes back to his form from 4 years ago then sure. The problem is that boxing is very tough if you aren’t mentally stable. I don’t think that Fury will last until the second half of the fight.
And the one thing all of those fights have in common is that Wilder eventually got to all of them. Other than the first Stiverne fight.
I don't buy all that mental (depression) stuff with Fury, he was out the ring for two years to avoid getting fingered for PEDs, he's always been a wild man outside of training. He just needs the right people around him to get him fit and focused.
I wouldn't be surprised if Wilder sparks him out, however, think it's more likely Fury proves too savvy.
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powerpuncher
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Fenster
I don't see how Wilder wins unless his equalizer lands.
Wilder goes 12 with Stiverne - a decent performance albeit against a fat human statue / subesquently Stiverne gets even fatter and more static.
Molina - gets wobbled and outboxed at times in 9 rounds / subsequently Molina is stopped with ease by AJ and Breazeale.
Duhaupas - takes 11 rounds to get rid of a man subsequently knocked unconcious by Povetkin and schooled by Fat baby.
Szpilka - gets outboxed at times in 9 rounds / subsequently Szpilka is knocked unconcious by Kownaki and struggled with Wach.
Washington - gets outboxed until 5th round KO / subsequently Washington is stopped by Fat Baby.
Ortiz - comes back by the skin of his teeth after the geriatric's zimmer frame buckled in 10 rounds.
If these men - who have done nothing to boost the form - can navigate their way into the later stages and even have success then why wont Fury? He's an expert at using his own superior range/size, slowing fights down and hasn't taken a shot since Cunningham almost decapitated him with a run up and overarm bowl. Jab, jab, jab, switch, turn, switch, jab, clown, Wilder will spend all night with a cocked right hand with nowhere to go.
If Fury goes back to his form from 4 years ago then sure. The problem is that boxing is very tough if you aren’t mentally stable. I don’t think that Fury will last until the second half of the fight.
And the one thing all of those fights have in common is that Wilder eventually got to all of them. Other than the first Stiverne fight.
I don't buy all that mental (depression) stuff with Fury, he was out the ring for two years to avoid getting fingered for PEDs, he's always been a wild man outside of training. He just needs the right people around him to get him fit and focused.
I wouldn't be surprised if Wilder sparks him out, however, think it's more likely Fury proves too savvy.
I agree with the mental illness BS, but he was coking it up and was extremely overweight during that time, that can put a lot of years on your body.
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Alpha
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Fenster
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powerpuncher
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Fenster
I don't see how Wilder wins unless his equalizer lands.
Wilder goes 12 with Stiverne - a decent performance albeit against a fat human statue / subesquently Stiverne gets even fatter and more static.
Molina - gets wobbled and outboxed at times in 9 rounds / subsequently Molina is stopped with ease by AJ and Breazeale.
Duhaupas - takes 11 rounds to get rid of a man subsequently knocked unconcious by Povetkin and schooled by Fat baby.
Szpilka - gets outboxed at times in 9 rounds / subsequently Szpilka is knocked unconcious by Kownaki and struggled with Wach.
Washington - gets outboxed until 5th round KO / subsequently Washington is stopped by Fat Baby.
Ortiz - comes back by the skin of his teeth after the geriatric's zimmer frame buckled in 10 rounds.
If these men - who have done nothing to boost the form - can navigate their way into the later stages and even have success then why wont Fury? He's an expert at using his own superior range/size, slowing fights down and hasn't taken a shot since Cunningham almost decapitated him with a run up and overarm bowl. Jab, jab, jab, switch, turn, switch, jab, clown, Wilder will spend all night with a cocked right hand with nowhere to go.
If Fury goes back to his form from 4 years ago then sure. The problem is that boxing is very tough if you aren’t mentally stable. I don’t think that Fury will last until the second half of the fight.
And the one thing all of those fights have in common is that Wilder eventually got to all of them. Other than the first Stiverne fight.
I don't buy all that mental (depression) stuff with Fury, he was out the ring for two years to avoid getting fingered for PEDs, he's always been a wild man outside of training. He just needs the right people around him to get him fit and focused.
I wouldn't be surprised if Wilder sparks him out, however, think it's more likely Fury proves too savvy.
I agree with the mental illness BS, but he was coking it up and was extremely overweight during that time, that can put a lot of years on your body.
Forgot about the coke. I just don’t think that Fury is what he used to be. Also, I was never that high on him before. I would just be surprised to see Fury completely outbox Wilder at this time in their careers.