NASA says humans could land on Mars in 25 years

NASA says humans could land on Mars in 25 years

https://www.rt.com/usa/443989-nasa-mars-25-years/

NASA has said that the first human flights to Mars could take place in 25 years, as long as someone comes up with the technology to properly shield astronauts from deadly radiation.

With Mars around 140 million miles from Earth, sending humans there poses difficulties far beyond anything faced by the Apollo missions to the moon. With current rocket technology, Mars is a nine month journey, during which astronauts would be at the mercy of solar radiation and muscle decay from prolonged exposure to zero gravity conditions.

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Deal. They can't even go to the moon.

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Deal. They can't even go to the moon.

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Is that because of the USA flag filmed flying straight in a no atmosphere moon? I much preferred Wallace and Grommits approach in the 90's .

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Deal. They can't even go to the moon.

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Is that because of the USA flag filmed flying straight in a no atmosphere moon? I much preferred Wallace and Grommits approach in the 90's .

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You'd be amazed at how much is fake in this world.

Funnily enough giants (which there is more evidence of than dinosaurs) are being covered up.

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Is that because of the USA flag filmed flying straight in a no atmosphere moon? I much preferred Wallace and Grommits approach in the 90's .

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You'd be amazed at how much is fake in this world.

Funnily enough giants (which there is more evidence of than dinosaurs) are being covered up.

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Do tell, I don't believe I've heard about a giant cover up...when you say giants do you mean like 9ft tall or are you talking 30ft?

If it is 9ft then it is probably just the remains of the Anunnaki from their brief time as the Sumerian overlords.

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Deal. They can't even go to the moon.

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Is that because of the USA flag filmed flying straight in a no atmosphere moon? I much preferred Wallace and Grommits approach in the 90's .

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You'd be amazed at how much is fake in this world.

Funnily enough giants (which there is more evidence of than dinosaurs) are being covered up.

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Do tell, I don't believe I've heard about a giant cover up...when you say giants do you mean like 9ft tall or are you talking 30ft?

If it is 9ft then it is probably just the remains of the Anunnaki from their brief time as the Sumerian overlords.

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Reports of up to 36 feet tall.

This vid is a pretty good introduction:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HygfspmjrbM&t=867s

Call me crazy, but at least look into it first.

I’ll just call you crazy. You and Freedom should be the first people to go to mars.

If man REALLY landed on the Moon over 50 years ago, we would be going there on our Holidays!
MARS? You’ve gotta be fucking joking.
In 200 years time, people are gonna look back at this era and laugh at the stupidity of this human race! ;D

I’m not well versed on this, but why would the moon be a holiday destination? It would require rigorous, immense training to reach a place that is uninhabitable. Has there ever been an Astroanaut to come out and say nobody landed there? It strikes me they might have a slightly better perspective.

It is strange when hear all this mars stuff when at this time we couldn’t land on the moon. I do beleive we landed on the moon and don’t consider myself a nutter for thinking so. Who knows those, one of these billionaires, be it bezos, or musk may pull it off. Fifty years seems optimistic

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It is strange when hear all this mars stuff when at this time we couldn’t land on the moon. I do beleive we landed on the moon and don’t consider myself a nutter for thinking so. Who knows those, one of these billionaires, be it bezos, or musk may pull it off. Fifty years seems optimistic

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Its the only reason I don’t consider you a nutter.

If I told you I could fly, would you want me to prove it?

Would you accept an image or video of me doing it? Or would you want it done in front of you?

Most would say, done in front of them so the image or video couldn't be altered, while blindly following what they have been told/ taught by so called scientists with bogus theories. They don't base there knowledge on their own experience, only what someone else has told them.

Have a look at the official photo of the shuttle landing on the moon. Looks great doesn't it, until you asked "Who took the picture?" It's shot from the moon. What's the big deal about being the first man on the moon, when the camera crew were already set up first?

This stuff is obvious to anyone really wanting to challenge what they have been told and "learned" and have a conversation about what is really going on, based on their own logic and facts they can actually see in front of them.

Then the next questions are going to be:

Why? Why would they lie?

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How could they keep it a secret?

If you want to believe we landed on the moon , that's awesome, you are entitled to your own beliefs, but to refuse to look at any credible evidence before dismissing it is just ignorant. It can be hard, trust me I know, I was a slave all my life, and the funny thing is no one cares, we all just carry on blindly.

Remember when Pluto was a planet?

Yea turns out after 500 odd years they were wrong, it ain't a planet, sorry. But everything else we tell you is right tho. Trust us.

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I’m not well versed on this, but why would the moon be a holiday destination? It would require rigorous, immense training to reach a place that is uninhabitable. Has there ever been an Astroanaut to come out and say nobody landed there? It strikes me they might have a slightly better perspective.

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because there are people in life that want to do something that others haven’t done, go to places that others haven’t been to.
My point is , and I think you probably know, in the last 50 years, look at the advances in technology. Look at TV’s or Computers for example compared to 50 years ago.
So if humans landed on the Moon over 50 years , surely an intelligent person would question why it isn’t easier or more commonplace nowadays, don’t you think?
As for Astronauts not saying “we never went to the Moon,” well of course they ain’t gonna say that.
They would be ridiculed, they would probably be murdered , and besides, they have had a beautiful life dining out on this myth.

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I’m not well versed on this, but why would the moon be a holiday destination? It would require rigorous, immense training to reach a place that is uninhabitable. Has there ever been an Astroanaut to come out and say nobody landed there? It strikes me they might have a slightly better perspective.

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because there are people in life that want to do something that others haven’t done, go to places that others haven’t been to.
My point is , and I think you probably know, in the last 50 years, look at the advances in technology. Look at TV’s or Computers for example compared to 50 years ago.
So if humans landed on the Moon over 50 years , surely an intelligent person would question why it isn’t easier or more commonplace nowadays, don’t you think?
As for Astronauts not saying “we never went to the Moon,” well of course they ain’t gonna say that.
They would be ridiculed, they would probably be murdered , and besides, they have had a beautiful life dining out on this myth.

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That's one way to keep people quiet, look at what happened to Gus Grissom.

I think it's better to start a thread on it, as some people aren't ready or don't won't to have what they have been told challenged. And it's better to get their permission to have a discussion that may challenge some of the things they have been told/ taught.

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I’m not well versed on this, but why would the moon be a holiday destination? It would require rigorous, immense training to reach a place that is uninhabitable. Has there ever been an Astroanaut to come out and say nobody landed there? It strikes me they might have a slightly better perspective.

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because there are people in life that want to do something that others haven’t done, go to places that others haven’t been to.
My point is , and I think you probably know, in the last 50 years, look at the advances in technology. Look at TV’s or Computers for example compared to 50 years ago.
So if humans landed on the Moon over 50 years , surely an intelligent person would question why it isn’t easier or more commonplace nowadays, don’t you think?
As for Astronauts not saying “we never went to the Moon,” well of course they ain’t gonna say that.
They would be ridiculed, they would probably be murdered , and besides, they have had a beautiful life dining out on this myth.

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I believe everyone who in your mind “allegedly” landed on the moon is dead anyways? You don’t think there would be a deathbed confession?

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I’m not well versed on this, but why would the moon be a holiday destination? It would require rigorous, immense training to reach a place that is uninhabitable. Has there ever been an Astroanaut to come out and say nobody landed there? It strikes me they might have a slightly better perspective.

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because there are people in life that want to do something that others haven’t done, go to places that others haven’t been to.
My point is , and I think you probably know, in the last 50 years, look at the advances in technology. Look at TV’s or Computers for example compared to 50 years ago.
So if humans landed on the Moon over 50 years , surely an intelligent person would question why it isn’t easier or more commonplace nowadays, don’t you think?
As for Astronauts not saying “we never went to the Moon,” well of course they ain’t gonna say that.
They would be ridiculed, they would probably be murdered , and besides, they have had a beautiful life dining out on this myth.

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I believe everyone who in your mind “allegedly” landed on the moon is dead anyways? You don’t think there would be a deathbed confession?

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Just because there is no deathbed confession, is not evidence that they went to the moon.

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I’m not well versed on this, but why would the moon be a holiday destination? It would require rigorous, immense training to reach a place that is uninhabitable. Has there ever been an Astroanaut to come out and say nobody landed there? It strikes me they might have a slightly better perspective.

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because there are people in life that want to do something that others haven’t done, go to places that others haven’t been to.
My point is , and I think you probably know, in the last 50 years, look at the advances in technology. Look at TV’s or Computers for example compared to 50 years ago.
So if humans landed on the Moon over 50 years , surely an intelligent person would question why it isn’t easier or more commonplace nowadays, don’t you think?
As for Astronauts not saying “we never went to the Moon,” well of course they ain’t gonna say that.
They would be ridiculed, they would probably be murdered , and besides, they have had a beautiful life dining out on this myth.

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I believe everyone who in your mind “allegedly” landed on the moon is dead anyways? You don’t think there would be a deathbed confession?

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I’m not well versed on this, but why would the moon be a holiday destination? It would require rigorous, immense training to reach a place that is uninhabitable. Has there ever been an Astroanaut to come out and say nobody landed there? It strikes me they might have a slightly better perspective.

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because there are people in life that want to do something that others haven’t done, go to places that others haven’t been to.
My point is , and I think you probably know, in the last 50 years, look at the advances in technology. Look at TV’s or Computers for example compared to 50 years ago.
So if humans landed on the Moon over 50 years , surely an intelligent person would question why it isn’t easier or more commonplace nowadays, don’t you think?
As for Astronauts not saying “we never went to the Moon,” well of course they ain’t gonna say that.
They would be ridiculed, they would probably be murdered , and besides, they have had a beautiful life dining out on this myth.

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I believe everyone who in your mind “allegedly” landed on the moon is dead anyways? You don’t think there would be a deathbed confession?

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Just because there is no deathbed confession, is not evidence that they went to the moon.

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Because it doesn't prove they went to the moon.

Think logically for a second, what do you think happens if you fall of the moon or of the spaceship?

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I’m not well versed on this, but why would the moon be a holiday destination? It would require rigorous, immense training to reach a place that is uninhabitable. Has there ever been an Astroanaut to come out and say nobody landed there? It strikes me they might have a slightly better perspective.

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because there are people in life that want to do something that others haven’t done, go to places that others haven’t been to.
My point is , and I think you probably know, in the last 50 years, look at the advances in technology. Look at TV’s or Computers for example compared to 50 years ago.
So if humans landed on the Moon over 50 years , surely an intelligent person would question why it isn’t easier or more commonplace nowadays, don’t you think?
As for Astronauts not saying “we never went to the Moon,” well of course they ain’t gonna say that.
They would be ridiculed, they would probably be murdered , and besides, they have had a beautiful life dining out on this myth.

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I believe everyone who in your mind “allegedly” landed on the moon is dead anyways? You don’t think there would be a deathbed confession?

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Just because there is no deathbed confession, is not evidence that they went to the moon.

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Why not?

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Because it doesn't prove they went to the moon.

Think logically for a second, what do you think happens if you fall of the moon or of the spaceship?

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So your take is that they were all murdered? Otherwise, why not? You aren’t exactly coming off as the king of logistics here.....

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I’m not well versed on this, but why would the moon be a holiday destination? It would require rigorous, immense training to reach a place that is uninhabitable. Has there ever been an Astroanaut to come out and say nobody landed there? It strikes me they might have a slightly better perspective.

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because there are people in life that want to do something that others haven’t done, go to places that others haven’t been to.
My point is , and I think you probably know, in the last 50 years, look at the advances in technology. Look at TV’s or Computers for example compared to 50 years ago.
So if humans landed on the Moon over 50 years , surely an intelligent person would question why it isn’t easier or more commonplace nowadays, don’t you think?
As for Astronauts not saying “we never went to the Moon,” well of course they ain’t gonna say that.
They would be ridiculed, they would probably be murdered , and besides, they have had a beautiful life dining out on this myth.

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I believe everyone who in your mind “allegedly” landed on the moon is dead anyways? You don’t think there would be a deathbed confession?

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Just because there is no deathbed confession, is not evidence that they went to the moon.

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Why not?

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Because it doesn't prove they went to the moon.

Think logically for a second, what do you think happens if you fall of the moon or of the spaceship?

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So your take is that they were all murdered? Otherwise, why not? You aren’t exactly coming off as the king of logistics here.....

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So you don't want to answer any questions?

They killed JFK you know, a president. What makes you think they aren't beyond threatening friends and families lives?

You have never seen the moon from that perspective with your own eyes, yet are happy to believe what they tell you is correct.

Men DID walk on the moon.

The truth is, the USA was a much richer country back in those days and could afford the Apollo Space Program. But the Americans have never gone back, even with improving technology, due to the cost.

The USA has declined economically over the past 50 years. There was a time when an American man could support a wife and children, and own a house and a car, with an average income. But that's not possible nowadays.

Cultural Marxism has played a major role in this decline. Many people became less willing to work hard, instead spending more of their physical and mental energy on the many distractions. And there's been a lot of wasteful spending, such as donations of several BILLIONS of dollars per year to Israel (despite it already being a rich country) and billions more to Israel's neighbors such as Egypt and Jordan in order to "buy" peace. Also wasteful and unnecessary wars (Vietnam, Iraq I and II, Afghanistan, etc) have cost the American taxpayers far, far more than was ever spent on the Space Program.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ee5IxnaXR3Y

Sorry Freedom, I don't think they did, and no one has been back since, and they lost all the data etc.

You just shot me to the moon, big daddy!

We all think we are intelligent and no one could lie to us without us knowing, it's hard to do but you need to drop the ego and accepting they have been lying to us about everything.

What’s the point, though?

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There it is, the why question.

Look at it like a crime, if you have a murder do you not investigate the crime because you have no motive? No you would investigate the clues right?

You could look at it like that, or you could take responsibility for letting them take authority over you. It's up to each individual to ask why have I been deceived? And you have to be honest with yourself, we have all been deceived at some point, it's so easy to do. I used to believe in Santa, Easter Bunny, tooth ferry etc.

Interesting thread. It's a bit like believing in God too isn't it. There is no evidence of supernatural beings but most people believe in some way. It is interesting. Not knocking the religious by the way as I think Jesus sounded cool, I just do not get the God bit.

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There it is, the why question.

Look at it like a crime, if you have a murder do you not investigate the crime because you have no motive? No you would investigate the clues right?

You could look at it like that, or you could take responsibility for letting them take authority over you. It's up to each individual to ask why have I been deceived? And you have to be honest with yourself, we have all been deceived at some point, it's so easy to do. I used to believe in Santa, Easter Bunny, tooth ferry etc.

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No matter what Apollo 13 is a great movie

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There it is, the why question.

Look at it like a crime, if you have a murder do you not investigate the crime because you have no motive? No you would investigate the clues right?

You could look at it like that, or you could take responsibility for letting them take authority over you. It's up to each individual to ask why have I been deceived? And you have to be honest with yourself, we have all been deceived at some point, it's so easy to do. I used to believe in Santa, Easter Bunny, tooth ferry etc.

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No matter what Apollo 13 is a great movie

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Just touching on movies, we have been programmed to think what space looks like, find all the space movies, books and other media that was made in the early 1950s prior to 1969, before we actually ever went to the moon. It all looks uncannily like how they portray space and the moon. The spacesuits, ships etc.

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Interesting thread. It's a bit like believing in God too isn't it. There is no evidence of supernatural beings but most people believe in some way. It is interesting. Not knocking the religious by the way as I think Jesus sounded cool, I just do not get the God bit.

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I don't believe in the god of the bible or Jesus, but I believe in a creator over the bullsh-t that is evolution.

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Not ready to challenge what you have been told with logical thought?

Logical is accepting what the overwhelming majority of people who have dedicated their lives to studying a field tend agree on, rather than spending ten minutes reading something on the Internet and then thinking you're an authority.

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Logical is accepting what the overwhelming majority of people who have dedicated their lives to studying a field tend agree on, rather than spending ten minutes reading something on the Internet and then thinking you're an authority.

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I never claimed that I am an authority, I'm just asking that people think for themselves. Rather than being told what to believe.

Just because the majority believe something doesn't prove that it's correct. I guess your talking evolution right? There is a reason it's called a theory.

Wouldn't you rather come to a conclusion based on your own experiences? Stuff you can see and do and explain in front of you? Like I said, all of us have been deceived at some point. All my friends believed there was Santa when I was a kid, even my kids did, were we lying? No, but the majority of us believed it, so does that make it right?

I also mentioned that we were told Pluto was a planet for around 500 years. Turns out that's wrong. It ain't a planet. But we were told it was, so we believed it.

At what point do you start questioning someone, after they had been wrong or lied to you over and over? Do you believe Oswald killed Kennedy alone? 9/11? The reasons the give for the start of wars?

The question you have to ask yourself firstly is, do I believe the government? And if you don't then you need to ask why you believe some stuff they tell you and not other stuff.

From my experience, once someone lies to me, or is wrong about something they confessed was correct, then I find it hard to take what they tell me next time as fact.

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I never claimed that I am an authority, I'm just asking that people think for themselves. Rather than being told what to believe.

Just because the majority believe something doesn't prove that it's correct. I guess your talking evolution right? There is a reason it's called a theory.

Wouldn't you rather come to a conclusion based on your own experiences? Stuff you can see and do and explain in front of you? Like I said, all of us have been deceived at some point. All my friends believed there was Santa when I was a kid, even my kids did, were we lying? No, but the majority of us believed it, so does that make it right?

I also mentioned that we were told Pluto was a planet for around 500 years. Turns out that's wrong. It ain't a planet. But we were told it was, so we believed it.

At what point do you start questioning someone, after they had been wrong or lied to you over and over? Do you believe Oswald killed Kennedy alone? 9/11? The reasons the give for the start of wars?

The question you have to ask yourself firstly is, do I believe the government? And if you don't then you need to ask why you believe some stuff they tell you and not other stuff.

From my experience, once someone lies to me, or is wrong about something they confessed was correct, then I find it hard to take what they tell me next time as fact.

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No harm in questioning ideas but you are mixing a lot of things to justify your scepticism. Pluto has been reclassified, it could get be labelled a planet again. Yes evolution is just a theory and there are gaps but it is better than creationism.