Re: < Let's get one thing straight here in regards to Kess vs. Joe.... >
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OK,
Reading the *Official* thread and some comments being made about the aftermaths of the fight.
Let's get one thing straight here....
Whoevers the dumb! F*** to come on here and start S***! and ride of Kess is just that a fwocken idiot.
Heres what I'm getting to.....
If Joe beats Kess regardless of how he does it, Joe will have earned the respect he has been claiming.
Whoever thinks otherwise is just a wanker and is here to start S***.
Not only that but if Joe embaresses Kess whoa!! he will def. catapult in all-time rankings and def. as one of the best fighters of our times.
I mean these are 2 fighters in their primes, undefeated, established Champs with decent records some questionable opponents. Some people say Kess has fought the more prominent names some people say Joes the one with the better quality of opposition. Whatever the case maybe they are fighting eachother and all that goes out the window come that night.
But you can't discredit their undefeated records either cause they also make for interesting talk. This is like Lloyd vs. Donald, 'Finito' vs. Alvarez as far as records or like Gonzalez vs. Carbajal, Naz vs. MAB, ODLH vs. SSM as far as fighters at their best at the time of the fight.
Also the same should apply for Kess if he defeats Joe. No excuses if Joe is the man at SMW and is defeated by Kess then Kess becomes the man at SMW.
So please Kess fans be gracious in victory and defeat don't come here just talking S***! Some of you guys give him a bad name with some of the stuff you guys post. I know those memmbers are no longer here :flush:
but to those who may come give credit to whoever wins. I know I will.
8)
The fight is in Wales. If Kessler dominates Calzaghe but for some reason does not get the decision. I will give Calzaghe no credit what's so ever.
What if we turn that statement on it's head..would you give Kessler any credit?
Joe was willing to travel to Denmark which is fact and financially it makes no sense for either to fight their so he can't be blamed really can he?
Oh I think there's more of a chance of Calzaghe getting a shady deal than Kessler. But if so I will give Kessler no credit as well.
and if calzaghe wins clearly, then what?
you gunna give him respect, or just talk about how he 'ducked' johnson or his a hometown fighter?
Violent D does not shy away from giving a fighter his due if it's earned. Question is can you Preme (the one with the Calzaghe poster on his bed room wall) admit your fighter is overrated if he was to easily get blown out?
Sorry im not a kid with posters on his walls or gets sent to juvi like some postes on here ::**
you already asked me this, and i answerd you... Plain and simple yes... but i know it wont happen;)
Any fighter who is said to be world class and gets 'blow out' would be overrated...
I ain't been to juvi in 13 years.
whata guy;)
We can't all grow up in an environment were you play video game all day long and have your mommy read you a bed time story before going to bed.
HA FUKKIN HA! CC to VD,that was good.
heres my short take on the fight...
I REALLY doubt the fight will take place on the planned date. Joe will hurt his hands in training. Joe will have to fight before his hands are healed(which really is a moot point because I dont think his hands will ever be ok). Joe will not be able to throw real hard shots,Kess will gain confidence as Joes punch wont hurt and then I see Kess just stalking and throwing bombs at Joe. Kess by KO or UD.
But no matter what, this is the fight we have been bitching about for a long time and im just glad its finally going to happen.
Re: < Let's get one thing straight here in regards to Kess vs. Joe.... >
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regardless of who wins I want to see the victor fight the Pavlik/Taylor winner....and then the winner (as long as its not JT) fight the Winky/Bhop winner
Good call dude im thinking the same.
Re: Its Official!!! Calzaghe Vs Kessler NOV 3!!
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
It's the same S*** over and over. Big fights don't get made. And it's always somebody else's fault. Never Calzaghe's. Whatever helps you sleep at night, boy.
Sorry VD bro, but every Calzaghe thread is littered with you spouting off about how every fight has failed to be made because Calzaghe's a b***h, he's a coward, yadda yadda yadda, well for f**k's sake they are going to get in the ring now, cause it's what everyon wants. And on sheer probabilities, all the fights will not have fallen through cause of problems on Joe's side, there are other fighters that also don't make fights y'know.
And I'm going to raise an oft-voiced opinion in that you just love hating on the brits cause it winds people up. (Did anyone see that BBC documentary on the Scientologists?). "Well buddy, you got it. I'm angry. Real Angry."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gE3Y4...watch_response
Re: Its Official!!! Calzaghe Vs Kessler NOV 3!!
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It's the same S*** over and over. Big fights don't get made. And it's always somebody else's fault. Never Calzaghe's. Whatever helps you sleep at night, boy.
Sorry VD bro, but every Calzaghe thread is littered with you spouting off about how every fight has failed to be made because Calzaghe's a b***h, he's a coward, yadda yadda yadda, well for f**k's sake they are going to get in the ring now, cause it's what everyon wants. And on sheer probabilities, all the fights will not have fallen through cause of problems on Joe's side, there are other fighters that also don't make fights y'know.
And I'm going to raise an oft-voiced opinion in that you just love hating on the brits cause it winds people up. (Did anyone see that BBC documentary on the Scientologists?). "Well buddy, you got it. I'm angry. Real Angry."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gE3Y4...watch_response
And every thread is filled with Calzaghe being avoided left and right. Which is straight bullshit. But the fight is now set. And hopefully it'll go on without any postponements.
Re: Its Official!!! Calzaghe Vs Kessler NOV 3!!
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And every thread is filled with Calzaghe being avoided left and right. Which is straight bullshit. But the fight is now set. And hopefully it'll go on without any postponements.
You ought to come over for the fight mate, we might be a small nation of sheep farmers and call centre workers, but we know how to lash like kings, I'll hold a pint of Brains SA for you ;)
Re: < Let's get one thing straight here in regards to Kess vs. Joe.... >
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Originally Posted by CutMeMick
OK,
Reading the *Official* thread and some comments being made about the aftermaths of the fight.
Let's get one thing straight here....
Whoevers the dumb! F*** to come on here and start S***! and ride of Kess is just that a fwocken idiot.
Heres what I'm getting to.....
If Joe beats Kess regardless of how he does it, Joe will have earned the respect he has been claiming.
Whoever thinks otherwise is just a wanker and is here to start S***.
Not only that but if Joe embaresses Kess whoa!! he will def. catapult in all-time rankings and def. as one of the best fighters of our times.
I mean these are 2 fighters in their primes, undefeated, established Champs with decent records some questionable opponents. Some people say Kess has fought the more prominent names some people say Joes the one with the better quality of opposition. Whatever the case maybe they are fighting eachother and all that goes out the window come that night.
But you can't discredit their undefeated records either cause they also make for interesting talk. This is like Lloyd vs. Donald, 'Finito' vs. Alvarez as far as records or like Gonzalez vs. Carbajal, Naz vs. MAB, ODLH vs. SSM as far as fighters at their best at the time of the fight.
Also the same should apply for Kess if he defeats Joe. No excuses if Joe is the man at SMW and is defeated by Kess then Kess becomes the man at SMW.
So please Kess fans be gracious in victory and defeat don't come here just talking S***! Some of you guys give him a bad name with some of the stuff you guys post. I know those memmbers are no longer here :flush:
but to those who may come give credit to whoever wins. I know I will.
8)
If Calzaghe beats Kessler with no contraversy EG quick stoppage of some other BS I will give him his due.
Re: Its Official!!! Calzaghe Vs Kessler NOV 3!!
UNtil the first punch is thrown I will not believe it. Again Whiney ASS Calzaghe and His crooked handler had to have their way and fight in Joe's hometown.
No matter what the outcome He still does not have the balls to fight anywhere but home or at least close to it.
Just to shut some people up 2 fights outside of England and Wales do not count as venturing out.
and to further get rid of stupid replies NO HE DOES NOT HAVE TO COME TO AMERICA.....I could care less if it was Australia
Re: Its Official!!! Calzaghe Vs Kessler NOV 3!!
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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
UNtil the first punch is thrown I will not believe it. Again Whiney ASS Calzaghe and His crooked handler had to have their way and fight in Joe's hometown.
No matter what the outcome He still does not have the balls to fight anywhere but home or at least close to it.
Just to shut some people up 2 fights outside of England and Wales do not count as venturing out.
and to further get rid of stupid replies NO HE DOES NOT HAVE TO COME TO AMERICA.....I could care less if it was Australia
My man Daxx telling it like it is
Re: Its Official!!! Calzaghe Vs Kessler NOV 3!!
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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
UNtil the first punch is thrown I will not believe it. Again Whiney a** Calzaghe and His crooked handler had to have their way and fight in Joe's hometown.
No matter what the outcome He still does not have the balls to fight anywhere but home or at least close to it.
Just to shut some people up 2 fights outside of England and Wales do not count as venturing out.
and to further get rid of stupid replies NO HE DOES NOT HAVE TO COME TO AMERICA.....I could care less if it was Australia
Show me an arena where the fight can make as much money through ticket sales as they can in the Millenium Stadium....it's gonna be one of the biggest boxing crowds ever. They tried to get the fight made in Denmark but Mogens Palle couldn't offer his own fighter enough money....so they had to come to Britain. It is, quite simply, a question of maths, and making the biggest amount of money. Or are they in this game to earn respect from their peers?
Re: Its Official!!! Calzaghe Vs Kessler NOV 3!!
If it's cancelled then I will start making "I hate Joe" posters and t-shirts.
You guys could buy them for $15 a piece. ;)
Re: Its Official!!! Calzaghe Vs Kessler NOV 3!!
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If it's cancelled then I will start making "I hate Joe" posters and t-shirts.
You guys could buy them for $15 a piece. ;)
What's the shipping on those? ;)
Re: Its Official!!! Calzaghe Vs Kessler NOV 3!!
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Originally Posted by superheavyrhun
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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
UNtil the first punch is thrown I will not believe it. Again Whiney a** Calzaghe and His crooked handler had to have their way and fight in Joe's hometown.
No matter what the outcome He still does not have the balls to fight anywhere but home or at least close to it.
Just to shut some people up 2 fights outside of England and Wales do not count as venturing out.
and to further get rid of stupid replies NO HE DOES NOT HAVE TO COME TO AMERICA.....I could care less if it was Australia
Show me an arena where the fight can make as much money through ticket sales as they can in the Millenium Stadium....it's gonna be one of the biggest boxing crowds ever. They tried to get the fight made in Denmark but Mogens Palle couldn't offer his own fighter enough money....so they had to come to Britain. It is, quite simply, a question of maths, and making the biggest amount of money. Or are they in this game to earn respect from their peers?
You are right it is all about money with Joe. Thats why he doesnt get respect from his peers. As if Joe needs more money at this stage in his career. If he is a multi millionaire what more does he need?
Twenty years from now he'll be known as a fighter who dodged most of the top fighters of his era, only fought at home and was all about the money. Compare that with someone like Winky Wright who would never make as much as Joe but in twenty years time will be remembered and respected fo fighting the top guys anywhere.
I tell u now he would fill a huge stadium if he came to australia and fought Mundine. Mundine v Green had like 30000 and a fight against Calzaghe would draw a bigger crowd. Calzaghe v RJJ five years ago would have filled a big stadium and made Joe loads of money.
So dont talk rubbish.
Re: Its Official!!! Calzaghe Vs Kessler NOV 3!!
It's about time. Good news to hear it's set though!
Re: Its Official!!! Calzaghe Vs Kessler NOV 3!!
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It's about time. Good news to hear it's set though!
thats what I say
Re: Its Official!!! Calzaghe Vs Kessler NOV 3!!
Every fighter who dissed joe by saying he was a weak slapper seemed to always get slapped silly.