Haye-Valuev - Who wins? Fact.

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Originally Posted by skel1983

I have noticed the same Fenster there advertising this everywhere even when you are watching another sport on sky if scrolls across the bottom of the page, really hyping this and the hype this is getting is way ahead of Khan v Prescott.


The newspapers have been reporting on this fight everyday since monday, I thought tghis fight will do shit numbers I think i am going to be wrong.

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Me too. I mentioned the other week how I haven't seen boxing in the papers everyday since Lewis beat Holyfield and Tyson, but now it's in there all week and when Haye wins I see it being back page all next week.

And I am that confident, as long as Haye doesn't make the silly mistakes he made against Thompson by trying to blast him out in the 1st round and takes his time just peppering Valuev and moving I see him starting to land huge shots around the 4th or 5th and stopping him around 7-9th rounds.

This could be an good fight, if your blind!! Nikolay Valuev is one of the worst if not the worst fighter who has an "ABC" belt!! Who has he fought and actually won :confused:, Oh yea No One!!! He Lost to Evander Holyfield but because they were in Germany and that horrible Italian Judge Pierluigi Poppi if he is one of the judges during this fight watch out for a great decision!! Seriously I don't know how anyone can say this is even an average fighter he is terrible, man friggen Manny Pacquiao could beat him!! I can't stand Haye mouth but he should KO the Yeti through the ring!! If Holyfield can get in there and land a Left hook like its nothing the Haye will land twice as many cuz he is like half of Evander's age!! The Biggest punch that Haye will land and can land is the Left Hook its always open against Valuev!! Take a look how slow Yeti's jabs are and right hands are its like watching slug trying to move!! Just terrible!!!

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Originally Posted by skel1983

I have noticed the same Fenster there advertising this everywhere even when you are watching another sport on sky if scrolls across the bottom of the page, really hyping this and the hype this is getting is way ahead of Khan v Prescott.


The newspapers have been reporting on this fight everyday since monday, I thought tghis fight will do shit numbers I think i am going to be wrong.

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Haha, I'm shit at the actual prediction contest, but I seem to be pretty damn good at picking if a PPV will do well (told everyone the Mayweather one would be big). C'mon BoxingGorilla, add that in, I need a way to get my horrible prediction scores up ;D

As it is, this is the most hype I've seen for any fight among the press since Hatton-Mayweather. Hopefully he wins & there's big numbers behind it, it might just encourage the other channels that this boxing thing has got some legs left.

Haye should be too good, but I'm not overly confident

What time does this start? I'm in NZ so I figure its early tomorrow morning for me...

Re watched Holyfield v Valuev and Chag v Valuev last night and think Haye has the tools to do the job, if he does not loose the plot going for an early KO. Haye needs to pick Valuev apart, keep the big man moving and chasing the whole fight, take his legs away, make him work the whole round every round, if he can do that I can see the big man having a very hard night.

Chagaev and Valuev can both take a shot and they can also defend, Haye is crap at both of those.

Haye could deffinitly beat alot of heavies but his chin and stamina will always be a liability, hes going to be too small here, Valuev will maul him.

Also, I reckon Valuev has power, hes never really fought aggressive, against Holyfield (who didnt win because he did nothing but skip away!) he was very passive and he seems to pull his punches alot but I think he might just walk through Haye early!! Haye has annoyed him and he has trained harder than normal because his weights down, hopefully Haye winds him up some more today;D

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Originally Posted by ross

Chagaev and Valuev can both take a shot and they can also defend, Haye is crap at both of those.

Haye could deffinitly beat alot of heavies but his chin and stamina will always be a liability, hes going to be too small here, Valuev will maul him.

Also, I reckon Valuev has power, hes never really fought aggressive, against Holyfield (who didnt win because he did nothing but skip away!) he was very passive and he seems to pull his punches alot but I think he might just walk through Haye early!! Haye has annoyed him and he has trained harder than normal because his weights down, hopefully Haye winds him up some more today;D

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Valuev weighs more for this than he did Holyfield by about 7lbs. Also what do you mean Holyfield didn't win because he did nothing but skip away?? Holyfield didn't win because he was robbed FACT!! Valuev is shit and Haye will prove it tonight. Not saying Haye is an all time great, but no one in the division right now is. If Haye does lose i'll hold my hand up and say I was wrong but I wonder how many who have gone for the freak will hold their hand up when Haye wins!

I have everything crossed for a Valuev sickening KO victory over Haye.

I'm in Bristol for a bonfire party tonight, but I'm taking my laptop with me to watch the fight as they arn't getting it, (curse my non boxing friends)

If Haye gets stopped I will spend all night on facebook spamming Leftylee and laughing at him.

In fact I will beg Saddo to unban him just so we can laugh at him on here too.

Come on Nikolay!!!!!

Haye is very chinny....he was stopped by Carl Thompson, put on his backside by Jean Mormeck( but came back to win) and put on the canvas by Monte Barrett. I'm still of the opinion that Haye is a big cruiser and not a fully fledged heavy just yet. He hasn't given himself time to grow into the division. Valuev on the other hand hasn't ever been dented and has good basic skills. He's no sugar ray leonard but can Jab,throw the right hand and has a decent uppercut. Also, even if Haye can get in and out, you have to believe that the 7ft, 22 stone Valuev will hit Haye cleanly at least a few times.......how does david react to that? Also once david gets in range, can he avoid the clinch? If not, does he tire from valuev leaning on his shoulders? I think that after 6 rds, David Haye could be in trouble. Valuev late for me.....around the 11th round.

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Originally Posted by jayhaych

Haye is very chinny....he was stopped by Carl Thompson, put on his backside by Jean Mormeck( but came back to win) and put on the canvas by Monte Barrett.

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Dont forget

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qY9PlQTHkyU;D

Leaning towards Haye, but whether he can deal with the size issue and his stamina problem will be key to this fight IMO. Valuev can't punch shit for me so I dont really think thats going to be a problem, even with Haye's shaky chin.

Hope he KO's the beast though ! What a sight that would be, anyway cant wait for this one. C'mon the Hayemaker !!!!

Don't worry. Haye has the speed to out box Valuev. :)

Haye might have the speed but he doesnt have the skill to keep away from shots.

Hayes best 2 wins have come against Mormeck who was knocked out a couple of fights before and Macaranelli who was also knocked out before Haye fought him and has been since Twice!!

Adameck would have been a good fight for Haye, even Adameck has fought and beaten better opposition at heavy than Haye has.

I agree Valuev isnt greatly skilled or very powerfull but Haye is fooling himself if he thinks he can deal with the size and strength of the man.

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Originally Posted by Master

Don't worry. Haye has the speed to out box Valuev. :)

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Yeah....but he'd be a fucking hypocrit to do that, he's promised action in all his fights and in this fight HAYE is the one that has to provide the action, we all know what Nico brings to the table.

I wonder how Haye will handle simply being in a boring fight, win or lose.

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Originally Posted by Lyle

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Originally Posted by Master

Don't worry. Haye has the speed to out box Valuev. :)

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Yeah....but he'd be a fucking hypocrit to do that, he's promised action in all his fights and in this fight HAYE is the one that has to provide the action, we all know what Nico brings to the table.

I wonder how Haye will handle simply being in a boring fight, win or lose.

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Be honest though Lyle, you're at least a little excited about tonight aren't you? ;)