Should Scotland stay in the UK?

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I'm having a grand laugh at scotland lads

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coulda woke up free... not to be i guess lol

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Originally Posted by Dia bando

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Originally Posted by superheavyrhun

Can't help but feel that the No vote was a missed opportunity for progress on these British Isles. The promises of the three "leaders" in Westminster are disappearing quicker than a Dominos pizza at the office, and the cynic in me can't help feeling that Crooked Dai is feeling very pleased with himself right now. If he doesn't follow through on his promises of more powers....he might lose a whole MP from Scotland! He has no incentive to really try and push it through, and the other two don't have the numbers to send those powers north. The usual smoke and mirrors disappears to leave empty promises once again.

Feeling very down and depressed today after last night's results, went to bed at four as it was clear which way it was going to go. I don't see any changes coming for the next General Election, just the usual bunch of posh boys voted in by scaremongering that the left would take away their rose and canapes budget by raising taxes. And even if Labour does get in again, which is unlikely with Miliband in charge, they're not even the left any more. The last Labour government was almost as bad for the working man as the Tories.

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Well mate I hope Plaid never get in,! just a bunch of Welsh speaking Tories same outlook on privatising everything NHS included. I totally agree Labour have lost there working class values.
But I am for democracy that's what the people of Scotland had, and they voted to stay in the Union
this is not football or rugby, this is serous stuff Nationalism DON'T PAY THE BILLS.

This moment in time Scotland gave a NO vote, who Knows in 10 years down the road they may have a chance, to vote again, but they have to take note of the 1 million plus yes voters.
Hopefully more powers for Scotland and Wales, this may be the start of more regional government
for all the UK, which I feel people would like.;)

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Agree with you about Plaid, while they are the only nationalist party in Wales they are also just a little bit too strange to want in charge of anything. Do you remember their policy of "A laptop for every child"? Nationalism itself won't pay the bills, but are you saying that we need to continue being the poor relation so that we can get crumbs from the English table? There are so many things the Wales could use as a resource were we to get independence. We can start off by charging everyone in the north for drinking our bloody water. Put it in bottles, price it about 10p less than Evian, and all of Beanz's friends up in the Monaco of the North will be lapping it up.

Now that the threat of independence is gone, Cameron has no reason whatsoever to offer anything more than a few more measly morsels, the 1.6 million voting for independence would never have voted for his shower of shit anyway. If I'm ever offered the choice for a vote on whether I'd like to continue being the country with the security of a minimum wage survival type existence that we get as a part of the UK, or the chance to become something bigger and better independently, I know where my vote would go. I'd rather be standing unhindered and free on the deck of the Titanic rather than being chained to the English dining table in main hall.

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Scottish people have over £1000 more spent on them per person per year and yet we are supposed to see them as the hard done by? Scottish and Welsh Mps get to dictate how money is spent on the English and then on themselves in their own Parliament but the English do not. Now apparently Manchester want independence and parliament there. The arrogance of it.

Miles you have seen democracy in action and are acting like a spoilt child because your cherry picking version of reality is so intolerant and dictatorial that you will not even contemplate the merits of a different point of view.

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Please refer to Manchester by it's correct title - the Monaco of the North.

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I very much hate the North but Manchester especially. I would down tools at a moments notice and go straight to war if it meant I didn't have to hear somebody moaning about how hard it is up there ever again.

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Near Manchester the life is good buddy.

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Originally Posted by Beanflicker

coulda woke up free... not to be i guess lol

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The last two Prime ministers before Cameron were Scottish, so the Mel Gibson braveheart freedom bollocks is just that... sweaty swinging gonads.

Whats all this Scottish Independence lark? Andy Murray has gone right off the boil so they offer us very little.

Allegations of vote rigging already......tut, tut, tut......

» Russian Election Observers: Westminster Rigged Scottish Independence Vote Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!

Was Scottish Vote Rigging Caught On Tape? | Zero Hedge

I would suggest a full investigation and possible schedule for a new referendum, but we know that they would ask Darling to lead it or else say it cannot be spoken of for 75 years which is how they handle child sex abuse, for instance.

Shame on you as always, Westminster. How are the fake beheading videos coming along?

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Originally Posted by superheavyrhun

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Originally Posted by Dia bando

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Originally Posted by superheavyrhun

Can't help but feel that the No vote was a missed opportunity for progress on these British Isles. The promises of the three "leaders" in Westminster are disappearing quicker than a Dominos pizza at the office, and the cynic in me can't help feeling that Crooked Dai is feeling very pleased with himself right now. If he doesn't follow through on his promises of more powers....he might lose a whole MP from Scotland! He has no incentive to really try and push it through, and the other two don't have the numbers to send those powers north. The usual smoke and mirrors disappears to leave empty promises once again.

Feeling very down and depressed today after last night's results, went to bed at four as it was clear which way it was going to go. I don't see any changes coming for the next General Election, just the usual bunch of posh boys voted in by scaremongering that the left would take away their rose and canapes budget by raising taxes. And even if Labour does get in again, which is unlikely with Miliband in charge, they're not even the left any more. The last Labour government was almost as bad for the working man as the Tories.

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Well mate I hope Plaid never get in,! just a bunch of Welsh speaking Tories same outlook on privatising everything NHS included. I totally agree Labour have lost there working class values.
But I am for democracy that's what the people of Scotland had, and they voted to stay in the Union
this is not football or rugby, this is serous stuff Nationalism DON'T PAY THE BILLS.

This moment in time Scotland gave a NO vote, who Knows in 10 years down the road they may have a chance, to vote again, but they have to take note of the 1 million plus yes voters.
Hopefully more powers for Scotland and Wales, this may be the start of more regional government
for all the UK, which I feel people would like.;)

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Agree with you about Plaid, while they are the only nationalist party in Wales they are also just a little bit too strange to want in charge of anything. Do you remember their policy of "A laptop for every child"? Nationalism itself won't pay the bills, but are you saying that we need to continue being the poor relation so that we can get crumbs from the English table? There are so many things the Wales could use as a resource were we to get independence. We can start off by charging everyone in the north for drinking our bloody water. Put it in bottles, price it about 10p less than Evian, and all of Beanz's friends up in the Monaco of the North will be lapping it up.

Now that the threat of independence is gone, Cameron has no reason whatsoever to offer anything more than a few more measly morsels, the 1.6 million voting for independence would never have voted for his shower of shit anyway. If I'm ever offered the choice for a vote on whether I'd like to continue being the country with the security of a minimum wage survival type existence that we get as a part of the UK, or the chance to become something bigger and better independently, I know where my vote would go. I'd rather be standing unhindered and free on the deck of the Titanic rather than being chained to the English dining table in main hall.

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Westminster is at fault MP's are no longer grass roots politicians, weather your English, Welsh's,
etc, many people all over the country are having crumbs, remember poor is poor a family living
in poverty in Plymouth or Blackburn what is the difference,! none just geography.

Trouble is we are ruled by the rich and privileged people, the old school tie brigade our economy
has been fucked up, I remember telling some friends the economy cant' carry on like this, some years back people were borrowing money hand over fist.
We are all in the shit in the UK, would independence make it any better for us No not one bit because we would still be in debt it would not disappear.
I am a relist mate independence is not the be all end all, facts are you need money we are all pissing in a big pot, it's a lot better than pissing in a tea cup.!!!!!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by Gandalf

Allegations of vote rigging already......tut, tut, tut......

� Russian Election Observers: Westminster Rigged Scottish Independence Vote Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!

Was Scottish Vote Rigging Caught On Tape? | Zero Hedge

I would suggest a full investigation and possible schedule for a new referendum, but we know that they would ask Darling to lead it or else say it cannot be spoken of for 75 years which is how they handle child sex abuse, for instance.

Shame on you as always, Westminster. How are the fake beheading videos coming along?

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We won, you lost. Piss Off. ;D

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Originally Posted by Gandalf

Allegations of vote rigging already......tut, tut, tut......

� Russian Election Observers: Westminster Rigged Scottish Independence Vote Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!

Was Scottish Vote Rigging Caught On Tape? | Zero Hedge

I would suggest a full investigation and possible schedule for a new referendum, but we know that they would ask Darling to lead it or else say it cannot be spoken of for 75 years which is how they handle child sex abuse, for instance.

Shame on you as always, Westminster. How are the fake beheading videos coming along?

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Miles you are such a duplicitous whiny loser. Can you not even see the Irony of a faux Englishman like yourself stuck In South Korea bemoaning the fact that Scotland chose to remain part of a United Kingdom, rather than rush to join a European Union that you so hate, and therefore condemn England to endless years of Tory Rule ? Then to further push up the incongruity meter you are now quoting from a shouty inbred American Pro Isreali violence conspiracy nutjob Government Schill who himself is seeking to invalidate the most free and democratic open expression of democracy in the west for several years with the opinion of some corrupt " Russian " anti democratic "Observers" who like yourself are upset that their lies have once again been exposed, and have to make shit up to dicredit the votes of ordinary people.

Shame on you Miles

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Yo dude, I did not tamper with the votes! I didn't scare the Scots, I didn't tell them their currency would go and that Asda would double their food prices. I get nothing from saying that there is evidence of tampering. I'm just presenting some information. The videos do look dodgy. Still, what's done is indeed done. It's up to the Scots to protest the rigging, nowt to do with me la.

Well the Scots stay in the union for now, did you see them kicking the shit out of each other,
the No voters and the yes voters, yes things got nasty stupid really.:confused:

There was a massive fraud. They all know it too. The UK has an agenda and it is a sad one and nothing to do with improving Scots life. It is an evil system, and the UK is a dying paedo nation. It is a bunch of useless people advancing by their knowledge of someone else on the inside and getting away with it.

Scotland lost the opportunity to be free, but it would still have been a paedo nation. There is just something wrong with these people.

Scotland was conned though and all should stop paying their council tax, their TV licence. This system is a fraud and so reject it on every level. It's how I think, and they can do the same. There is no mandate from London, there isn't even a Tory one. Reject it entirely.