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Why is Vargas not a HoFamer?
He's probably borderline and could still be inducted at some point.
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Why is Vargas not a HoFamer?
He's probably borderline and could still be inducted at some point.
By the time of his first world championship he won all his 14 bouts by knockout. He won his first world title in 1998, knocking out Yori Boy Campas in seven rounds for the IBF light middleweight championship. Vargas successfully defended the title throughout 1999, with victories over Howard Clarke (TKO 4), Raúl Márquez (TKO 11), Winky Wright (MD 12), and Ike Quartey (UD 12).
Vargas lost the title to Félix Trinidad in 2000. Vargas was knocked down twice in the first round, he was able to fight his way back by knocking down Trinidad in the fourth round until finally being knocked out in the 12th and final round.
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Re: The Thread To End All Thread's About Floyd Mayweather
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Why is Vargas not a HoFamer?
He's probably borderline and could still be inducted at some point.
By the time of his first world championship he won all his 14 bouts by knockout. He won his first world title in 1998, knocking out Yori Boy Campas in seven rounds for the IBF light middleweight championship. Vargas successfully defended the title throughout 1999, with victories over Howard Clarke (TKO 4), Raúl Márquez (TKO 11), Winky Wright (MD 12), and Ike Quartey (UD 12).
Vargas lost the title to Félix Trinidad in 2000. Vargas was knocked down twice in the first round, he was able to fight his way back by knocking down Trinidad in the fourth round until finally being knocked out in the 12th and final round.
I liked Vargas very much. He was very exciting!
He said Tito's punches felt like rocks hitting him(hand wraps anyone?).
But then he got busted for PEDs and he lost a bit of lustre for me.
I'm of the opinion that it's not often that the time you get caught cheating is likely to be the first time you cheated... So I don't really know what to make of Vargas and Trinidad for this reason.
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Why is Vargas not a HoFamer?
He's probably borderline and could still be inducted at some point.
By the time of his first world championship he won all his 14 bouts by knockout. He won his first world title in 1998, knocking out Yori Boy Campas in seven rounds for the IBF light middleweight championship. Vargas successfully defended the title throughout 1999, with victories over Howard Clarke (TKO 4), Raúl Márquez (TKO 11), Winky Wright (MD 12), and Ike Quartey (UD 12).
Vargas lost the title to Félix Trinidad in 2000. Vargas was knocked down twice in the first round, he was able to fight his way back by knocking down Trinidad in the fourth round until finally being knocked out in the 12th and final round.
I liked Vargas very much. He was very exciting!
He said Tito's punches felt like rocks hitting him(hand wraps anyone?).
But then he got busted for PEDs and he lost a bit of lustre for me.
I'm of the opinion that it's not often that the time you get caught cheating is likely to be the first time you cheated... So I don't really know what to make of Vargas and Trinidad for this reason.
That is the real Rocco I know! Vargas was a brilliant fighter, I think he got caught against Oscar. Vargas did have alcohol and drug issues which shortened his career but I think it was recreational drug use, like Tyson, not PED. Except for the Oscar fight.
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What if Floyd fought Alexander? Who would have won?
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Fernando Vargas was a bad man in his time for sure.
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Fernando Vargas would beat Floyd who would not dare go up in weight to fight him.
Vargas would beat Canelo.
There I said it.
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Vargas would've beaten the crap out of Canelo... that's for sure.
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Vargas would've beaten the crap out of Canelo... that's for sure.
Vargas would also destroy Floyd, too small and lightweight. :)
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Vargas would've beaten the crap out of Canelo... that's for sure.
Vargas would also destroy Floyd, too small and lightweight. :)
Vargas would also murder my 6 year old niece, too small and cuddly.
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Vargas would've beaten the crap out of Canelo... that's for sure.
Vargas would also destroy Floyd, too small and lightweight. :)
Vargas would also murder my 6 year old niece, too small and cuddly.
I am being serious! You take me seriously!
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Fernando Vargas IS NOT MAYWEATHER CLASS! Easy win for Floyd.
Canelo vs Vargas... hmmm... toss up for me.
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Fernando Vargas IS NOT MAYWEATHER CLASS! Easy win for Floyd.
Canelo vs Vargas... hmmm... toss up for me.
This is why you know nothing about boxing.
Vargas that won the title at his peak which was for a short amount of time beats Floyd and he would not dare take on the man like he did Canelo.
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This is why you know nothing about boxing.
Vargas that won the title at his peak which was for a short amount of time beats Floyd and he would not dare take on the man like he did Canelo.
VARGAS IS NOT MAYWEATHER CLASS :rolleyes:
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This is why you know nothing about boxing.
Vargas that won the title at his peak which was for a short amount of time beats Floyd and he would not dare take on the man like he did Canelo.
VARGAS IS NOT MAYWEATHER CLASS :rolleyes:
Class is one thing, weight is another. If they fought at light middle, Vargas wins.
Lopez had more class than Tyson but no way would he beat him. :)