Re: August 26, 1975 ~ 'Press Conference' ~ Ali Tries To Make Gorilla Out Of Joe Frazi
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Master
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Bill Paxtom
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C.J.Rock
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Bill Paxtom
Ali's Marketing team did that not Ali Hell theyre still selling memorabilia on the Ali website as fast as they can make it
Muhammad Ali 'was' his Marketing Team.
It was his idea for the ........... GORILLA
He should get all credit for the 1975 'SCUM BAG of the Year'
Entrepreneur of the year more like.
More like ....... 1975 Sport Magazine's 'Scum-Bag of the Year'
Re: August 26, 1975 ~ 'Press Conference' ~ Ali Tries To Make Gorilla Out Of Joe Frazi
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brocktonblockbust
When he was promoting fights I didn't mind the hype and the insults and the derogatory and incitetful behavior and language. But in between fights sometimes he would not fight for almost one year he would say and do the most insulting things to other human beings both black and white that he really cannot be looked upon as such a spiritual person like he likes to portray himself.
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The man was closer to a 'Scum-Bag' than a Humanitarian.
He is not a person to look up to. For those who do, they have little self-esteem.
Yes, you can appreciate his boxing talents and achievements inside the Boxing Ring.
But, was he really a special individual outside the Ring.
I think not. He was just another Celebrity looking for publicity.
Re: August 26, 1975 ~ 'Press Conference' ~ Ali Tries To Make Gorilla Out Of Joe Frazi
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Bill Paxtom
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brocktonblockbust
When he was promoting fights I didn't mind the hype and the insults and the derogatory and incitetful behavior and language. But in between fights sometimes he would not fight for almost one year he would say and do the most insulting things to other human beings both black and white that he really cannot be looked upon as such a spiritual person like he likes to portray himself.
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The man was closer to a 'Scum-Bag' than a Humanitarian.
He is not a person to look up to. For those who do, they have little self-esteem.
Yes, you can appreciate his boxing talents and achievements inside the Boxing Ring.
But, was he really a special individual outside the Ring.
I think not. He was just another Celebrity looking for publicity.
I think THAT's the nail on the head, he was nothing special, he happened to be born with good looks, and took advantage of that like anyone else would, hell, like I did, too bwAAAAHAHAHAHA
Re: August 26, 1975 ~ 'Press Conference' ~ Ali Tries To Make Gorilla Out Of Joe Frazi
You are the only one with low self esteem Bill. After all these years holding a grudge this long makes you very shallow.
Re: August 26, 1975 ~ 'Press Conference' ~ Ali Tries To Make Gorilla Out Of Joe Frazi
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Master
You are the only one with low self esteem Bill. After all these years holding a grudge this long makes you very shallow.
Hang in there Bill, I'm shallower than you and Brock is the shallowest guy I've ever seen. He could probably take a bath in a a teacup! :)
Re: August 26, 1975 ~ 'Press Conference' ~ Ali Tries To Make Gorilla Out Of Joe Frazi
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beenKOed
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You are the only one with low self esteem Bill. After all these years holding a grudge this long makes you very shallow.
Hang in there Bill, I'm shallower than you and Brock is the shallowest guy I've ever seen. He could probably take a bath in a a teacup! :)
I don't bathe bitch!
;D
Re: August 26, 1975 ~ 'Press Conference' ~ Ali Tries To Make Gorilla Out Of Joe Frazi
Bill doesnt have low self-esteem, its not equal to tell him that just because he harps on Ali. Focusing on a certain topic or even obsessing on a topic is not an indication of low self-esteem. People obsess on lots of things for various reasons/combinations of reasons. Low self-esteem could be one, or it could have nothing to do with it.
Re: August 26, 1975 ~ 'Press Conference' ~ Ali Tries To Make Gorilla Out Of Joe Frazi
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Bill Paxtom
True, was a low act for sure.
Re: August 26, 1975 ~ 'Press Conference' ~ Ali Tries To Make Gorilla Out Of Joe Frazi
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Andre
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Bill Paxtom
True, was a low act for sure.
Ah, it was no big deal, Ali never meant to hurt anyone. It was just one black man trying to help out another black man. :rolleyes:
I really have a lot of respect for Ali, he was a good man through and through. You can tell he was a very respectful person from the way he spoke about other black fighters! :rolleyes: Right?
You are what you say, and I have a lot of disrespect for Muhammad Ali. ;)
Re: August 26, 1975 ~ 'Press Conference' ~ Ali Tries To Make Gorilla Out Of Joe Frazi
He thought it was cool to keep changing what he said from one year to another. And nobody would remember his track record. You cant say the white man is the devil in '66, then say some white men are the devil in '69, then say you were wrong and that there are red devils, green devils, black devils, etc., in '71, then say you champion black rights in then turn around aND CALL fellow blacks monkeys, gorillas, ignorant, uneducated, backwards, Uncle Tom, etc., from year to year HE KEPT GETTING IT WRONG, yet the following year he would get something else wrong, showing no remorse, and expecting people to keep kissing his ass, expecting people to forgive each and every one of his insults, remarks, etc.
now he is old, sick and mute, and if it werent for that, he might get alot less sympathy
Re: August 26, 1975 ~ 'Press Conference' ~ Ali Tries To Make Gorilla Out Of Joe Frazi
I'm sure all this hate keeps Ali up at night.
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I'm sure all this hate keeps Ali up at night.
I think Ali has moved on maybe others should too.
Re: August 26, 1975 ~ 'Press Conference' ~ Ali Tries To Make Gorilla Out Of Joe Frazi
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brocktonblockbust
Out and out racism and at the very least cruelty.
Mean cruelty.
This coming from a "highly religious" man who "really supported his people".
I guess berating poor Joe for years like this was "supporting" his people.
Disgusting show of willful and persistent cruelty to a decent, humble ATG Joe Frazier.
Karma is a bitch, huh?
The thing with Ali was that he wasn't too bright & he got over excited too easily; he was virtually like a child when he was in pre-fight mode.
He said some terrible things to Smokin' Joe, but I don't believe the meant those things truly.
Deep down, Ali had great respect for Joe because he knew that Joe was always going to give him a hard time.
