Carl Frampton v Leo Santa Cruz

Frampton won't have to do the rematch anywhere but Ireland ;-)
Was a good un, just the way we hardly saw the ref have to go near the fighters said it all.:cool:
One for the purists as action wise it was lacking but a great watch nontheless

https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=0UWdP8fPVCI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=R3LKTJ8hAVw

Blimey, some of you had Santa Cruz winning? What? I guess if you gave him all the close rounds I can see a draw - at a stretch.

Frampton countered him all night, held his own in the toe-to-toe exchanges, controlled the distance and constantly landed the most eye catching shots. Terrific fight but there was only one winner.

Can't believe how many people wrote Frampton off beforehand, seemed to me he got written off because the Quigg fight was pony. Ridiculous.

I felt the showtime crew was very pro frampton. I was rooting for santa cruz, but felt frampton took the fight. There was were just too many times that frampton landed on wading santa cruz and stepped away before Santa cruz would open his eyes get his bearings and give chase. When Santa cruz fought like the taller fighter, he took those rounds. When he dove into the trenches, it felt like he played into framptons plans and as such it looked like frampton was is control more often than not. Frampton faded down the stretch as i expected he would but it didn't seem like LSC had much more of plan than wade in bomb frampton out and collect his belts and his checks.

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Originally Posted by Fenster

Blimey, some of you had Santa Cruz winning? What? I guess if you gave him all the close rounds I can see a draw - at a stretch.

Frampton countered him all night, held his own in the toe-to-toe exchanges, controlled the distance and constantly landed the most eye catching shots. Terrific fight but there was only one winner.

Can't believe how many people wrote Frampton off beforehand, seemed to me he got written off because the Quigg fight was pony. Ridiculous.

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Basically every round was pretty close. Frampton did land some great counters, but Cruz also landed huge shots and dictated the pace in many rounds. It was a close fight and gave no problem with the winner, but the scorecards were wide.

I think there were two rounds that were fairly clearly framptons round, but Cruz had a few rounds like that too. Neither fighter could gain much of an edge. I felt like when one would have success, the other would come back and have success. Close fight and a rematch should happen.

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Originally Posted by Fenster

Blimey, some of you had Santa Cruz winning? What? I guess if you gave him all the close rounds I can see a draw - at a stretch.

Frampton countered him all night, held his own in the toe-to-toe exchanges, controlled the distance and constantly landed the most eye catching shots. Terrific fight but there was only one winner.

Can't believe how many people wrote Frampton off beforehand, seemed to me he got written off because the Quigg fight was pony. Ridiculous.

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Yep Cruz was missing Frampton countering landing the heavy shot's.
I can't believe how they were thinking Cruz won you got to land clean to score.
Frampton well won that fight Cruz felt the power and he could not impose him self on Carl good fight good rematch but in Belfast.

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Originally Posted by smashup

Frampton won't have to do the rematch anywhere but Ireland ;-)
Was a good un, just the way we hardly saw the ref have to go near the fighters said it all.:cool:
One for the purists as action wise it was lacking but a great watch nontheless

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I had it a draw LSC won the second half half of the fight which are the Championship rounds. The fight was close and. I have no problem with frampton winning but two of the those cards were disgusting. Then again who is promoting LSC to place vs Frampton in NY? That is not protecting your fighter. Frampton is now offering rematch in Belfast when he just got a small gift in its sister city.

Have it in Vegas or Macau in the big leagues. I was impressed with Frampton but he did not do enough to take away a champions belt. Smells like the network marketing of a PPV puppet, LSC lacks PPV drawing power Frampton has.

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Originally Posted by smashup

Frampton won't have to do the rematch anywhere but Ireland ;-)
Was a good un, just the way we hardly saw the ref have to go near the fighters said it all.:cool:
One for the purists as action wise it was lacking but a great watch nontheless

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Why Belfast NY was home court for frampton. Fight was close enough for a rematch on the big stage in Vegas. If LSC had won there would be no shout out by LSC offering a rematch in Mexico City. Stop being the fan boy and be a fight fan

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Originally Posted by J_Undisputed

I felt the showtime crew was very pro frampton. I was rooting for santa cruz, but felt frampton took the fight. There was were just too many times that frampton landed on wading santa cruz and stepped away before Santa cruz would open his eyes get his bearings and give chase. When Santa cruz fought like the taller fighter, he took those rounds. When he dove into the trenches, it felt like he played into framptons plans and as such it looked like frampton was is control more often than not. Frampton faded down the stretch as i expected he would but it didn't seem like LSC had much more of plan than wade in bomb frampton out and collect his belts and his checks.

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LSC can blame himself for the loss. He lost the fight before the fight by leaving GBP in favor of Haymon. GBP would never had staged the fight in Belfast, NY it would have been in Vegas, San Antonio, El Paso or home of Los Angeles . This fight was close but more of a case of location location location. Had this been in any of the city's mentioned above it would be LSC celebrating a close fight or draw. No way a rematch in Belfast is fair. If a rematch is reached back in NY is a slightly more neutral site. Based on two judges scores no one in their right mind will believe LSC wins a decision and no kills PPV demand. Haymon screwed his fighter and LSC is one stupid fighter to fight in Belfast for a rematch. A rematch in a neutral site is a must! Hayman promotes both and chose to sit on the side of Frampton he is more marketable. If a rematch is made in Belfast and I were LSC I would be pissed and only accept back in NY with a different fight plan where only a KO will net him a win. Gotta be the money that got him to fight in NY to pay for dad's meds.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Vcx6kG24V44

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Originally Posted by J_Undisputed

I felt the showtime crew was very pro frampton. I was rooting for santa cruz, but felt frampton took the fight. There was were just too many times that frampton landed on wading santa cruz and stepped away before Santa cruz would open his eyes get his bearings and give chase. When Santa cruz fought like the taller fighter, he took those rounds. When he dove into the trenches, it felt like he played into framptons plans and as such it looked like frampton was is control more often than not. Frampton faded down the stretch as i expected he would but it didn't seem like LSC had much more of plan than wade in bomb frampton out and collect his belts and his checks.

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LSC can blame himself for the loss. He lost the fight before the fight by leaving GBP in favor of Haymon. GBP would never had staged the fight in Belfast, NY it would have been in Vegas, San Antonio, El Paso or home of Los Angeles . This fight was close but more of a case of location location location. Had this been in any of the city's mentioned above it would be LSC celebrating a close fight or draw. No way a rematch in Belfast is fair. If a rematch is reached back in NY is a slightly more neutral site. Based on two judges scores no one in their right mind will believe LSC wins a decision and no kills PPV demand. Haymon screwed his fighter and LSC is one stupid fighter to fight in Belfast for a rematch. A rematch in a neutral site is a must! Hayman promotes both and chose to sit on the side of Frampton he is more marketable. If a rematch is made in Belfast and I were LSC I would be pissed and only accept back in NY with a different fight plan where only a KO will net him a win. Gotta be the money that got him to fight in NY to pay for dad's meds.

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What fight were you watching Frampton made Cruz miss or land on gloves and arms.
Sister City LOL Cruz lost mate, either you like volume or quality punches.
Volume that missed or quality punches that score.
Was the fight in America yes is the home of Cruz is it not.
So not many Hispanics turned up and ever plastic paddy turned up to support Frampton LOL.

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Originally Posted by Freedom

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Vcx6kG24V44

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This isn't working. If you find another one, I would really appreciate it. I've looked and found nada!

Cruz threw over 1000 punches which is top in the fittest fighter categories but Frampton landed more power punches from the boxing stats.

I do not think there will be an immediate rematch. I think Frampton will want an easier first defence at home.

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Originally Posted by Fenster

Blimey, some of you had Santa Cruz winning? What? I guess if you gave him all the close rounds I can see a draw - at a stretch.

Frampton countered him all night, held his own in the toe-to-toe exchanges, controlled the distance and constantly landed the most eye catching shots. Terrific fight but there was only one winner.

Can't believe how many people wrote Frampton off beforehand, seemed to me he got written off because the Quigg fight was pony. Ridiculous.

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Yep Cruz was missing Frampton countering landing the heavy shot's.
I can't believe how they were thinking Cruz won you got to land clean to score.
Frampton well won that fight Cruz felt the power and he could not impose him self on Carl good fight good rematch but in Belfast.

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The people that thought Cruz won are thankfully in a small minority. Fuck knows what they were watching, ironically they'll be the first people to criticise judges or cry about corruption.