Today in Trump

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Originally Posted by El Kabong

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Originally Posted by Beanz

They never dropped any on your country or your heelspur German presidents Dad though did they? ;D

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I'm saying that as a "bit of German humour" that joke bombed you LITERAL jackass.


This makes me remember all of those old great German jokesters of the past...you know all the famous German comedians like....... :tumbleweed: .....and then there was :tumbleweed:



The context is completely lost as well. "Member that wall that kept all those citizens under communist totalitarianism from escaping to free West Germany? Yeah let's send a piece of that to an American President who is looking to secure the borders of his nation and keep illegal immigrants out"


But I guess you're just retarded enough to enjoy that "humour" :rolleyes:

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El Kabongz, thon't attribute to Beanz that's German sense of hummus, he isn't angry enough for those weil die Deutschen nie einen Witz erzählt haben, der überhaupt sehr lustig war.

https://www.today.com/video/nikki-ha...ce-73322565926


Well, well, well....... if it isn't little ol' Nikki Haley scoring some big time points with the Donald. :D

What a frigging, "soap opera-ish", convoluted, "he said she said" we have here. :D

I'm betting Trump is feeling mighty proud of his little Nikki right about now.

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Originally Posted by TitoFan

https://www.today.com/video/nikki-ha...ce-73322565926


Well, well, well....... if it isn't little ol' Nikki Haley scoring some big time points with the Donald. :D

What a frigging, "soap opera-ish", convoluted, "he said she said" we have here. :D

I'm betting Trump is feeling mighty proud of his little Nikki right about now.

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So she should what??? Agree with impeachment even if that's not how she feels?


She's out selling a book A#1 and the media think she's establishment enough to cave to what THEY want (they want Trump gone ASAP) and she apparently stood firm. I don't think she's Trump's closest ally or anything, but she's got a good take here in my opinion, but hey others see it differently and I acknowledge that. I'd just like for the process of determining if there's going to be an impeachment to be available for public viewing just so I can follow what is happening. Surely we can all agree on that yeah?

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Originally Posted by El Kabong

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Originally Posted by TitoFan

https://www.today.com/video/nikki-ha...ce-73322565926


Well, well, well....... if it isn't little ol' Nikki Haley scoring some big time points with the Donald. :D

What a frigging, "soap opera-ish", convoluted, "he said she said" we have here. :D

I'm betting Trump is feeling mighty proud of his little Nikki right about now.

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So she should what??? Agree with impeachment even if that's not how she feels?


She's out selling a book A#1 and the media think she's establishment enough to cave to what THEY want (they want Trump gone ASAP) and she apparently stood firm. I don't think she's Trump's closest ally or anything, but she's got a good take here in my opinion, but hey others see it differently and I acknowledge that. I'd just like for the process of determining if there's going to be an impeachment to be available for public viewing just so I can follow what is happening. Surely we can all agree on that yeah?

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I didn't say that, Lyle. I merely commented on the "soap opera-ish" environment where now little Nikki is saying "oh hey... so-and-so wanted me to rat out Trump... but I didn't want to." It's comically kindergarten-ish, is all. No between the lines here. Just commenting on how shallow and waffly Nikki sounds when she speaks, and prior to that I have little knowledge of just how good she was as UN ambassador, or as Governor of S Carolina before that. Who knows... maybe she was the greatest thing since sliced bread. The whole circus atmosphere just gives me an awful rash.

Besides, I would think that whatever Nikki thinks about the impeachment is worth about as much as a wooden nickel.

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Originally Posted by TitoFan

I didn't say that, Lyle. I merely commented on the "soap opera-ish" environment where now little Nikki is saying "oh hey... so-and-so wanted me to rat out Trump... but I didn't want to." It's comically kindergarten-ish, is all. No between the lines here. Just commenting on how shallow and waffly Nikki sounds when she speaks, and prior to that I have little knowledge of just how good she was as UN ambassador, or as Governor of S Carolina before that. Who knows... maybe she was the greatest thing since sliced bread. The whole circus atmosphere just gives me an awful rash.

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Nikki was a decent governor from what I can gather. She did OK at the UN, she didn't take much bullshit, but hell I don't rate the UN at all or what goes on there because it's all anti-American, all of it.

Nikki is just trying to sell her book, I don't think she's a Trump ally, I don't think she seeks to be his enemy either, she's being savvy politically speaking.


The kindergarten/soap opera feel is understandable. Very reminiscent of this....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lA5UqUyFmT0



Anyway, all that said:

Extortion: Democrats test new charge against Trump
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/o...-against-trump



Let's see for all those keeping track: Collusion, Obstruction, Quid Pro Quo, Extortion & Bribery are now up.....anyone have BINGO yet?

Defrauding veterans by using charitable donations intended for them for his political campaign in 2016. I see he's been banned from running a charity along with the rest of his family.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmcgvbL7uO8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=givJPBMt7e0

The opening statement of Devin Nunes is full of attacks on the character of Democrats and complaints about the process, but lacks a defense of Trump on the merits. That’s because there really isn’t one.

https://twitter.com/renato_mariotti/...37869236793344




HPSCI lawyer: "In your decades of military service & diplomatic service representing the U.S. around the world, have you ever seen another example of foreign aid conditioned on the personal or political interests of the president of the United States?" Taylor: "No, I have not."

https://twitter.com/CBSEveningNews/s...59835398311936



Taylor drops a bombshell New evidence directly fingers President Trump. July 26 phone call where Trump checks in with Sondland on status of Ukraine’s Biden investigation. Side note: Sondland omitted this. Intentional omission of material facts is perjury.

https://twitter.com/rgoodlaw/status/1194647667827195905



Just got this message from a Republican operative:


https://twitter.com/sahilkapur/statu...84479568306176

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

HPSCI lawyer: "In your decades of military service & diplomatic service representing the U.S. around the world, have you ever seen another example of foreign aid conditioned on the personal or political interests of the president of the United States?" Taylor: "No, I have not."

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So he didn't notice Obama shipping $400 Billion to Iran then? I guess not :dontknow:


He didn't notice Obama NOT giving Ukrainians weapons, but just MREs and blankets when Crimea was under attack...Trump actually DID make good on providing javelin missiles and arms...but I suppose that's all easily explained away right Kirk?


The FISA IG report release is "imminent" according to AG Barr, but hey who knows if Trump will even be President then what with all this impeaching ;)

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Originally Posted by El Kabong

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

HPSCI lawyer: "In your decades of military service & diplomatic service representing the U.S. around the world, have you ever seen another example of foreign aid conditioned on the personal or political interests of the president of the United States?" Taylor: "No, I have not."

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So he didn't notice Obama shipping $400 Billion to Iran then? I guess not :dontknow:


He didn't notice Obama NOT giving Ukrainians weapons, but just MREs and blankets when Crimea was under attack...Trump actually DID make good on providing javelin missiles and arms...but I suppose that's all easily explained away right Kirk?


The FISA IG report release is "imminent" according to AG Barr, but hey who knows if Trump will even be President then what with all this impeaching ;)

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Obama sent Iran $1.something billion. And this was Iran's own money, frozen in American banks since the 1979 revolution. It was sent back in cash because America and Iran don't have any mutual banking facility due to sanctions and was sent back due to a nuclear treaty that Trump has now ripped up with disastrous effects. It was done publicly, was reported in every paper and news broadcast at the time and is only an issue for you now because you never read papers, can't remember anything that happened more than forty eight hours ago and believe everything you're told by your bullshit/grifting media.

And because the US dollar is used abroad as currency Obama could just print the dollars and send them without it actually costing America anything more than the paper and ink. This is about the same standard as your usual bullshit/nonsense arguments and has already been explained to you/little shelf.

Another bullshit claim. Trump blocked sending Ukraine the weapons despite congress having authorisied them and only allowed them to be sent once the whistle had been blown and three separate criminal referrals by various inspectors general had been opened into his actions.

https://twitter.com/rgoodlaw/status/1194312654363516928



What will this report reveal Lyle?

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

The opening statement of Devin Nunes is full of attacks on the character of Democrats and complaints about the process, but lacks a defense of Trump on the merits. That’s because there really isn’t one.

https://twitter.com/renato_mariotti/...37869236793344




HPSCI lawyer: "In your decades of military service & diplomatic service representing the U.S. around the world, have you ever seen another example of foreign aid conditioned on the personal or political interests of the president of the United States?" Taylor: "No, I have not."

https://twitter.com/CBSEveningNews/s...59835398311936



Taylor drops a bombshell New evidence directly fingers President Trump. July 26 phone call where Trump checks in with Sondland on status of Ukraine’s Biden investigation. Side note: Sondland omitted this. Intentional omission of material facts is perjury.

https://twitter.com/rgoodlaw/status/1194647667827195905



Just got this message from a Republican operative:


https://twitter.com/sahilkapur/statu...84479568306176

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Oh it’s an ironclad case. No doubt, just listen to the testimony and hear all the “this person told that person then told me so I told someone”

“One British official w/ knowledge of Barr’s wish list presented to London commented: 'It is like nothing we have come across before, they are basically asking, in quite robust terms, for help in doing a hatchet job on their own intelligence services.’”

https://mobile.twitter.com/AndrewFei...47018314883073

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

Obama sent Iran $1.something billion. And this was Iran's own money, frozen in American banks since the 1979 revolution. It was sent back in cash because America and Iran don't have any mutual banking facility due to sanctions and was sent back due to a nuclear treaty that Trump has now ripped up with disastrous effects. It was done publicly, was reported in every paper and news broadcast at the time and is only an issue for you now because you never read papers, can't remember anything that happened more than forty eight hours ago and believe everything you're told by your bullshit/grifting media.

And because the US dollar is used abroad as currency Obama could just print the dollars and send them without it actually costing America anything more than the paper and ink. This is about the same standard as your usual bullshit/nonsense arguments and has already been explained to you/little shelf.

Another bullshit claim. Trump blocked sending Ukraine the weapons despite congress having authorisied them and only allowed them to be sent once the whistle had been blown and three separate criminal referrals by various inspectors general had been opened into his actions.

https://twitter.com/rgoodlaw/status/1194312654363516928



What will this report reveal Lyle?

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Frozen in America's banks and SOMEONE stepped in and changed this.... "have you ever seen another example of foreign aid conditioned on the personal or political interests of the president of the United States?"

Well no other President had done that.


Then there's the whole "Hey tell Putin I'll be more flexible after the election"....I guess the star witness was out sick those days.


It's not about "costing America" it's about not funneling money to a nation which routinely sponsors terrorist actions worldwide.


The President of Ukraine disagrees with your assessment so are you calling him a liar too?


I'm sure I don't know what the report will reveal Kirkland...do you have any guesses? ;D

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Originally Posted by walrus

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

The opening statement of Devin Nunes is full of attacks on the character of Democrats and complaints about the process, but lacks a defense of Trump on the merits. That’s because there really isn’t one.

https://twitter.com/renato_mariotti/...37869236793344




HPSCI lawyer: "In your decades of military service & diplomatic service representing the U.S. around the world, have you ever seen another example of foreign aid conditioned on the personal or political interests of the president of the United States?" Taylor: "No, I have not."

https://twitter.com/CBSEveningNews/s...59835398311936



Taylor drops a bombshell New evidence directly fingers President Trump. July 26 phone call where Trump checks in with Sondland on status of Ukraine’s Biden investigation. Side note: Sondland omitted this. Intentional omission of material facts is perjury.

https://twitter.com/rgoodlaw/status/1194647667827195905



Just got this message from a Republican operative:


https://twitter.com/sahilkapur/statu...84479568306176

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Oh it’s an ironclad case. No doubt, just listen to the testimony and hear all the “this person told that person then told me so I told someone”

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About fifty percent of the information from these guys is first hand information. The other fifty percent would need various Trump people to testify to confirm they said and did what these guys are testifying that they said and did. But the various Trump people are ignoring subpoenas and refusing to testify.

One of the guys currently testifying graduated second in his class at West Point, served with the 101st Airbourne in Vietnam and has served his country for over fifty years now. And he's testifying under oath. Do you really think all these public servants, diplomats, military officers are all making this up or maybe it's the guys refusing to testify who are the liars here.

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Originally Posted by El Kabong

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

Obama sent Iran $1.something billion. And this was Iran's own money, frozen in American banks since the 1979 revolution. It was sent back in cash because America and Iran don't have any mutual banking facility due to sanctions and was sent back due to a nuclear treaty that Trump has now ripped up with disastrous effects. It was done publicly, was reported in every paper and news broadcast at the time and is only an issue for you now because you never read papers, can't remember anything that happened more than forty eight hours ago and believe everything you're told by your bullshit/grifting media.

And because the US dollar is used abroad as currency Obama could just print the dollars and send them without it actually costing America anything more than the paper and ink. This is about the same standard as your usual bullshit/nonsense arguments and has already been explained to you/little shelf.

Another bullshit claim. Trump blocked sending Ukraine the weapons despite congress having authorisied them and only allowed them to be sent once the whistle had been blown and three separate criminal referrals by various inspectors general had been opened into his actions.

https://twitter.com/rgoodlaw/status/1194312654363516928



What will this report reveal Lyle?

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Frozen in America's banks and SOMEONE stepped in and changed this.... "have you ever seen another example of foreign aid conditioned on the personal or political interests of the president of the United States?"

Well no other President had done that.


Then there's the whole "Hey tell Putin I'll be more flexible after the election"....I guess the star witness was out sick those days.


It's not about "costing America" it's about not funneling money to a nation which routinely sponsors terrorist actions worldwide.


The President of Ukraine disagrees with your assessment so are you calling him a liar too?


I'm sure I don't know what the report will reveal Kirkland...do you have any guesses? ;D

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It was done publicly as part of a treaty agreement. nobody said a word about it until Trump started bullshitting about it and now you think it's some big deal. This was not foreign aid taxpayer dollars held back in secret so that Iran would do something illegal that personally benefitted Obama. It was Iran's own money. America supports terrorist groups worldwide, has funded them for decades and currently funds a bunch of terrorist groups that operate inside Iran who are trying to overthrow the Iranian regime. Rudy Giuliani is a fucking paid lobbyist for one Iranian terrorist group.

The president of Ukraine can hardly disagree with the man currently extorting him when he's fighting a war on his own territory with Russia. As it is the facts and evidence prove this beyond doubt. Trump people literally wrote a script for him to go on TV and say to start trumped up investigations of Biden and Ukraine's actions in 2016.

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

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Originally Posted by walrus

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

The opening statement of Devin Nunes is full of attacks on the character of Democrats and complaints about the process, but lacks a defense of Trump on the merits. That’s because there really isn’t one.

https://twitter.com/renato_mariotti/...37869236793344




HPSCI lawyer: "In your decades of military service & diplomatic service representing the U.S. around the world, have you ever seen another example of foreign aid conditioned on the personal or political interests of the president of the United States?" Taylor: "No, I have not."

https://twitter.com/CBSEveningNews/s...59835398311936



Taylor drops a bombshell New evidence directly fingers President Trump. July 26 phone call where Trump checks in with Sondland on status of Ukraine’s Biden investigation. Side note: Sondland omitted this. Intentional omission of material facts is perjury.

https://twitter.com/rgoodlaw/status/1194647667827195905



Just got this message from a Republican operative:


https://twitter.com/sahilkapur/statu...84479568306176

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Oh it’s an ironclad case. No doubt, just listen to the testimony and hear all the “this person told that person then told me so I told someone”

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About fifty percent of the information from these guys is first hand information. The other fifty percent would need various Trump people to testify to confirm they said and did what these guys are testifying that they said and did. But the various Trump people are ignoring subpoenas and refusing to testify.

One of the guys currently testifying graduated second in his class at West Point, served with the 101st Airbourne in Vietnam and has served his country for over fifty years now. And he's testifying under oath. Do you really think all these public servants, diplomats, military officers are all making this up or maybe it's the guys refusing to testify who are the liars here.

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No but you heard the guy refer to his hearsay and admitted some of what he heard was wrong. These is no impeachable offense here Kirk. Good luck though Kirk you never know. Maybe you will be right this time because your trump as a Russian agent sure didn’t go over as you planned

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Originally Posted by walrus

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

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Originally Posted by walrus

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

The opening statement of Devin Nunes is full of attacks on the character of Democrats and complaints about the process, but lacks a defense of Trump on the merits. That’s because there really isn’t one.

https://twitter.com/renato_mariotti/...37869236793344




HPSCI lawyer: "In your decades of military service & diplomatic service representing the U.S. around the world, have you ever seen another example of foreign aid conditioned on the personal or political interests of the president of the United States?" Taylor: "No, I have not."

https://twitter.com/CBSEveningNews/s...59835398311936



Taylor drops a bombshell New evidence directly fingers President Trump. July 26 phone call where Trump checks in with Sondland on status of Ukraine’s Biden investigation. Side note: Sondland omitted this. Intentional omission of material facts is perjury.

https://twitter.com/rgoodlaw/status/1194647667827195905



Just got this message from a Republican operative:


https://twitter.com/sahilkapur/statu...84479568306176

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Oh it’s an ironclad case. No doubt, just listen to the testimony and hear all the “this person told that person then told me so I told someone”

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About fifty percent of the information from these guys is first hand information. The other fifty percent would need various Trump people to testify to confirm they said and did what these guys are testifying that they said and did. But the various Trump people are ignoring subpoenas and refusing to testify.

One of the guys currently testifying graduated second in his class at West Point, served with the 101st Airbourne in Vietnam and has served his country for over fifty years now. And he's testifying under oath. Do you really think all these public servants, diplomats, military officers are all making this up or maybe it's the guys refusing to testify who are the liars here.

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No but you heard the guy refer to his hearsay and admitted some of what he heard was wrong. These is no impeachable offense here Kirk. Good luck though Kirk you never know. Maybe you will be right this time because your trump as a Russian agent sure didn’t go over as you planned

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"but you heard the guy refer to his hearsay and admitted some of what he heard was wrong.

I haven't watched one second of this. There'll be a transcript or a video of whatever you're claiming here. If you find it I'll read it. They admitted something they said was wrong? Really? Show me.

Trump extorted a foreign country with taxpayer dollars to fix an American election. It's the clearest impeachable offence.

There is no crime here. No linkage, lots of accusations of treason and bribery but this is not Nixon or Clinton. It should give you an idea of what’s going on here. Schiff won’t let them question the whistleblower, strange

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

I haven't watched one second of this.

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Yet you seem so sure of yourself :-\

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

Trump extorted a foreign country with taxpayer dollars to fix an American election. It's the clearest impeachable offence.

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Well be sure to get your hopes up.

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Originally Posted by El Kabong

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

I haven't watched one second of this.

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Yet you seem so sure of yourself :-\

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

Trump extorted a foreign country with taxpayer dollars to fix an American election. It's the clearest impeachable offence.

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Well be sure to get your hopes up.

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The facts are already public. This is just impeachment for dummies on the television right now. For people who don't read which is 95+% of the country.

Trump won't be found guilty but it'll be obvious that he is. And he'll continue to extort and otherswise get countries and individuals to try and fix the 2020 election/upend the facts about the 2016 election. This is just one party upholding the constitution, trying to prevent America becoming an outright banana republic and the other party cheering it on.It's awful to see Lyle.

Kork-land, wrong.

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Originally Posted by walrus

There is no crime here. No linkage, lots of accusations of treason and bribery but this is not Nixon or Clinton. It should give you an idea of what’s going on here. Schiff won’t let them question the whistleblower, strange

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Nixon's "smoking gun" tape that eventually forced his resignation (otherwise he'd beentold by Republicans they'd find him guilty) was a request by him for the CIA to impede the FBI's ongoing Watergate investigation. The CIA didn't do it. The request itself was considered corrupt enough for Nixon to have to leave office. Trump is on tape asking for a foreign country to initiate investigations into his political rival and using hundreds of millions of US taxpayer dollars as a bribe to enfoce his extortion request. This tape is backed up by endless witnesses like the guys testifying today.

Clinton got impeached for lying over a blowjob.

Oh look, some fucker in Indiana is going to jail for using public resources to help a political campaign. Looks like there must have been a crime here:

https://www.tribpub.com/gdpr/chicago...news/breaking/

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Originally Posted by walrus

There is no crime here. No linkage, lots of accusations of treason and bribery but this is not Nixon or Clinton. It should give you an idea of what’s going on here. Schiff won’t let them question the whistleblower, strange

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What's the point of questioning the whistleblower? Everything he said in the original complaint has turned out to be true and backed up with first hand accounts by the people involved.

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

The facts are already public. This is just impeachment for dummies on the television right now. For people who don't read which is 95+% of the country.

Trump won't be found guilty but it'll be obvious that he is. And he'll continue to extort and otherswise get countries and individuals to try and fix the 2020 election/upend the facts about the 2016 election. This is just one party upholding the constitution, trying to prevent America becoming an outright banana republic and the other party cheering it on.It's awful to see Lyle.

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OK then...I've got to say I find your take on this rather amusingly twisted. You're seemingly very pleased with this whole process but you're also openly admitting it won't change anything.


Have you chosen a Democrat to support for President yet?

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Originally Posted by El Kabong

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

The facts are already public. This is just impeachment for dummies on the television right now. For people who don't read which is 95+% of the country.

Trump won't be found guilty but it'll be obvious that he is. And he'll continue to extort and otherswise get countries and individuals to try and fix the 2020 election/upend the facts about the 2016 election. This is just one party upholding the constitution, trying to prevent America becoming an outright banana republic and the other party cheering it on.It's awful to see Lyle.

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OK then...I've got to say I find your take on this rather amusingly twisted. You're seemingly very pleased with this whole process but you're also openly admitting it won't change anything.


Have you chosen a Democrat to support for President yet?

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No, nothing will be changed and you're still now living in a banana republic.


Any Democrat will be fine. None of them are obvious criminals. Since he took office Trump is now up to $27 million in settlement payments to avoid various fraud indictments. His only concrete legislative achievement has been to rig the economy even further in the direction of the wealthy. Everything else is a total shitshow. Another four years and he'll get control of the Fed and then you're fully bananad. It's in everybodys' interests for a non criminal to win in 2020.

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

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Originally Posted by walrus

There is no crime here. No linkage, lots of accusations of treason and bribery but this is not Nixon or Clinton. It should give you an idea of what’s going on here. Schiff won’t let them question the whistleblower, strange

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What's the point of questioning the whistleblower? Everything he said in the original complaint has turned out to be true and backed up with first hand accounts by the people involved.

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Oh so the defense shouldn’t be able to question him. Everything he said is true? Ya that’s typically how it works in our judicial system :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: look Kirk maybe you will be happy and this goes somewhere. It doesn’t past the muster but you don’t care about that. You can continue reading the far left talk show conspiracy shit. Schiff owes us the whistleblower because he had proof positive trump was a Russian agent and he must have lost it. Schiff doesn’t want this guy under oath for a reason. Probably because he might be asked questions about schiff

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

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Originally Posted by walrus

There is no crime here. No linkage, lots of accusations of treason and bribery but this is not Nixon or Clinton. It should give you an idea of what’s going on here. Schiff won’t let them question the whistleblower, strange

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What's the point of questioning the whistleblower? Everything he said in the original complaint has turned out to be true and backed up with first hand accounts by the people involved.

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Oh so the defense shouldn’t be able to question him. Everything he said is true? Ya that’s typically how it works in our judicial system :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: look Kirk maybe you will be happy and this goes somewhere. It doesn’t past the muster but you don’t care about that. You can continue reading the far left talk show conspiracy shit. Schiff owes us the whistleblower because he had proof positive trump was a Russian agent and he must have lost it. Schiff doesn’t want this guy under oath for a reason. Probably because he might be asked questions about schiff

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Why would they need to question him? They can question the actual people involved. The whistleblower just heard about the call from somebody who was actually on it. That's just one phone call. It turns out the phone call was the culmination of a months long effort involving lots of people to get the Ukrainian pm to open an investigation into Trump's political rival. Most of the people involved have already testified about this months long effort. Some of them are ignoring legal supoenas on the orders of Trump. Stop getting your information from talk radio and read a fucking newspaper you muppet.

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

No, nothing will be changed and you're still now living in a banana republic.


Any Democrat will be fine. None of them are obvious criminals. Since he took office Trump is now up to $27 million in settlement payments to avoid various fraud indictments. His only concrete legislative achievement has been to rig the economy even further in the direction of the wealthy. Everything else is a total shitshow. Another four years and he'll get control of the Fed and then you're fully bananad. It's in everybodys' interests for a non criminal to win in 2020.

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OK, I mean you're certainly free to think and feel all those things. I wonder what you actually hope for, but man it is just going to be a hoot watching all this play out and you'll still be getting upset about it.

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

Why would they need to question him? They can question the actual people involved. The whistleblower just heard about the call from somebody who was actually on it. That's just one phone call. It turns out the phone call was the culmination of a months long effort involving lots of people to get the Ukrainian pm to open an investigation into Trump's political rival. Most of the people involved have already testified about this months long effort. Some of them are ignoring legal supoenas on the orders of Trump. Stop getting your information from talk radio and read a fucking newspaper you muppet.

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#1. He's the whistleblower.

#2 he lied on his report about not meeting with Rep Schiff and Schiff lied about meeting with him.


The phone call itself had 0 illegal in it...Amb Taylor today disputed this idea of quid pro quo, he said President Zelenskiy had 0 idea about assistance being held up. If it was extortion or bribery or quid pro quo Zelensky would HAVE to know about the assistance. He'd have to otherwise it's just Trump shadowboxing which again, ain't illegal.



What newspaper should we read? Washington Post? New York Times? Both? ;D

Missed the tv show today, was busy having damaged furniture delivered :p. Currently watching this loaded set up press conference where Trump wants only "friendly" questions for Erdogen and patting him on the hand like a muppet. No mention as of yet about the U.S having drone footage of Turkish forces attacking Kurdish civilians on multiple occasions. Apparently Trump very much thinks parts of the U.S Constitution should "not be allowed" either. Namely the part about the founding Fathers seeing the impeachment clause as indispensable and fearing a President could become a tool of a faction :-X.

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Originally Posted by El Kabong

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

Why would they need to question him? They can question the actual people involved. The whistleblower just heard about the call from somebody who was actually on it. That's just one phone call. It turns out the phone call was the culmination of a months long effort involving lots of people to get the Ukrainian pm to open an investigation into Trump's political rival. Most of the people involved have already testified about this months long effort. Some of them are ignoring legal supoenas on the orders of Trump. Stop getting your information from talk radio and read a fucking newspaper you muppet.

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#1. He's the whistleblower.

#2 he lied on his report about not meeting with Rep Schiff and Schiff lied about meeting with him.


The phone call itself had 0 illegal in it...Amb Taylor today disputed this idea of quid pro quo, he said President Zelenskiy had 0 idea about assistance being held up. If it was extortion or bribery or quid pro quo Zelensky would HAVE to know about the assistance. He'd have to otherwise it's just Trump shadowboxing which again, ain't illegal.



What newspaper should we read? Washington Post? New York Times? Both? ;D

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Whistleblowers are just that. There's no convention that says they have to testify at all. In fact there's an entire act of congress devoted to protecting their identities.

He didn't lie about meeting Schiff. He's never met Schiff. The whistleblower made contact with the committee to make sure they knew about his complaint while Barr was still trying to bury it and it hadn't become public knowledge yet. Whistleblowing is legal and had a whole set of protocols and procedures that are codified into law that they have to follow to be able to blow the whistle and not face prosecution or retribution. One of these protocols is that they're allowed to contact the relevant congressional committee for various reasons. The whistleblower contacted the Schiff committee through his lawyer according to the various protocols and guidelines set out in the whistleblower laws.

The call was so not illegal that three inspectors general who heard about it immediately opened criminal referrals into it and the transcript of the call itself was buried in a top secret server. Various other officials have already testified that the Ukrainians knew the aid was being held up.

https://twitter.com/AshaRangappa_/st...10158405971968


https://twitter.com/ChrisMurphyCT/st...13896371699712

https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/sta...01511538909184

https://twitter.com/lrozen/status/1180191103389229058

This is just a quick sample. There's endless more documented evidence the Ukrainians knew the score.


Both papers are spectacular. They both basically publish a book of thousands of different individual parts every day and make maybe ten mistakes a year. I pay a lot of money for various information and data and I wish everything I bought was as accurate and value for money as those papers.

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Originally Posted by Spicoli

Missed the tv show today, was busy having damaged furniture delivered :p. Currently watching this loaded set up press conference where Trump wants only "friendly" questions for Erdogen and patting him on the hand like a muppet. No mention as of yet about the U.S having drone footage of Turkish forces attacking Kurdish civilians on multiple occasions. Apparently Trump very much thinks parts of the U.S Constitution should "not be allowed" either. Namely the part about the founding Fathers seeing the impeachment clause as indispensable and fearing a President could become a tool of a faction :-X.

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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/don...sions-n1080651

Being honest, we turned the page on the Whistleblower this or that the morning my President stood on the White House lawn and encouraged China to investigate a candidate for the United States 2020 Presidential election. It's like we all have willful amnesia. Seriously..that horse is so far outta the barn that the door has finished swinging, the roosters and pigs have calmed down and all you hear is the feint far off clippity clop off in the distance in a cloud of dust.

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Originally Posted by Spicoli

Being honest, we turned the page on the Whistleblower this or that the morning my President stood on the White House lawn and encouraged China to investigate a candidate for the United States 2020 Presidential election. It's like we all have willful amnesia. Seriously..that horse is so far outta the barn that the door has finished swinging, the roosters and pigs have calmed down and all you hear is the feint far off clippity clop off in the distance in a cloud of dust.

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True there is complete amnesia on dnc working with Russian ops to compile a dossier against trump. Abusing FISA by at least the FBI and a few other things people just turned the page on. This current impeachment attempt is a continuation of all that. The Russian shit failed, there was talk of impeachment then

Criminal indictments coming

Barr, Durham, Horowitz to the rescue

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Originally Posted by El Kabong

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

Why would they need to question him? They can question the actual people involved. The whistleblower just heard about the call from somebody who was actually on it. That's just one phone call. It turns out the phone call was the culmination of a months long effort involving lots of people to get the Ukrainian pm to open an investigation into Trump's political rival. Most of the people involved have already testified about this months long effort. Some of them are ignoring legal supoenas on the orders of Trump. Stop getting your information from talk radio and read a fucking newspaper you muppet.

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#1. He's the whistleblower.

#2 he lied on his report about not meeting with Rep Schiff and Schiff lied about meeting with him.


The phone call itself had 0 illegal in it...Amb Taylor today disputed this idea of quid pro quo, he said President Zelenskiy had 0 idea about assistance being held up. If it was extortion or bribery or quid pro quo Zelensky would HAVE to know about the assistance. He'd have to otherwise it's just Trump shadowboxing which again, ain't illegal.



What newspaper should we read? Washington Post? New York Times? Both? ;D

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Schiff doesn’t want the whistleblower to testify as he is scared the whistleblower will uncover schiffs bullshit during testimony

https://youtu.be/-SgOZwxmGf4

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

Whistleblowers are just that. There's no convention that says they have to testify at all. In fact there's an entire act of congress devoted to protecting their identities.

He didn't lie about meeting Schiff. He's never met Schiff. The whistleblower made contact with the committee to make sure they knew about his complaint while Barr was still trying to bury it and it hadn't become public knowledge yet. Whistleblowing is legal and had a whole set of protocols and procedures that are codified into law that they have to follow to be able to blow the whistle and not face prosecution or retribution. One of these protocols is that they're allowed to contact the relevant congressional committee for various reasons. The whistleblower contacted the Schiff committee through his lawyer according to the various protocols and guidelines set out in the whistleblower laws.

The call was so not illegal that three inspectors general who heard about it immediately opened criminal referrals into it and the transcript of the call itself was buried in a top secret server. Various other officials have already testified that the Ukrainians knew the aid was being held up.

https://twitter.com/AshaRangappa_/st...10158405971968


https://twitter.com/ChrisMurphyCT/st...13896371699712

https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/sta...01511538909184

https://twitter.com/lrozen/status/1180191103389229058

This is just a quick sample. There's endless more documented evidence the Ukrainians knew the score.


Both papers are spectacular. They both basically publish a book of thousands of different individual parts every day and make maybe ten mistakes a year. I pay a lot of money for various information and data and I wish everything I bought was as accurate and value for money as those papers.

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The whistleblower A) Lied about having met with Schiff and B ) evidence they have is #1. wrong and #2. hearsay....although one Democrat attempted to push forward that HEARSAY is oftentimes better than direct evidence :vd:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bZOTRgEVYU

You were saying about a Banana something????


Oh I didn't know all that about whistleblowing....wow, that would explain your nonstop condemnation of Obama's use of the Espionage Act against whistleblowers during his term in office...here let me look all those up :tumbleweed: ....:headscratch: where could those posts have gone? :dontknow:


Quite a list of tweets you have there....100% down the middle all of them.


Both papers aren't fit to line bird cages

Well it's all over, writing is on the wall....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6PLzRy3b30


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