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I cannot wait for this fight¬ How long left!!!?! This will answer sooooo many questions about both fighters!
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Originally Posted by Sugar_Shaw
I agree 100%, Kelly by UD or maybe a late stoppage.
Yeah I havent decided whether im going with a points win or late stoppage yet . We'll see fight week but the judges wont be able to save Taylor this time. It wont be close. Im sure it will be a clear victory this time for the challenger and if they give it to the champion again , there will be uproar .
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Originally Posted by southakron314
CC at ya. Couldn't agree more. Kelly is a animal. He has the same drive as hagler with hearns's fists. Hell he may hit harder than hearns. All I know is I was at the bar and we were talkin about him and how great he is for the community and how much more hope he has given to such a beaten hard as steel city. People around here hold him very high. Black , White whatever. He is a great person and a true force to be reckoned with here. I dint see how Taylor is going to fight this guy. Maybe in the middle of the ring but then I see Jermaine runnin from him allot and that doesn't win points. I really do not see this going to the cards at all. Kelly has only been to the cards three times and that was in short round bouts. I also believe that he could move up to 168 and still be a top contender and still might have a stronger punch and chin than Mikkel Kessler. This kid is a bright young star and will be a dominate force for years to come.
Yeah I was wondering what would happen if Pavlik met Kessler but nobody else seems to be talking about that one yet . Who knows if they win their next fighst that one could become a natural . It may be the fight everyone is talking about or it could be Joe vs Taylor .
The thing that impressed me most about Kelly is that he isnt afriad to get invloved and he fights his fight regardless . Taylor wasnt even prepared to take chances vs Spinks. Kessler is a little more defensive than Pavlik and doesnt go for it as much but I like both guys and think they are both soon to be top 10 p4p fighters . Kelly can avoid punches if he chooses to as they call him the ghost but vs Miranda he had no intention of playing it safe and nuff props go out to him for doing that .
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
I cannot wait for this fight¬ How long left!!!?! This will answer sooooo many questions about both fighters!
Who ya picking Gamo ? I was pretty much undecided but now im firmly convinced that Pavlik will be our new middleweight champion.
Re: Official Taylor Vs Pavlik Poll ( New Vid On Page 10)
Is anybody excited as I am about this fight?
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Can't freakin wait!!!!! Only 22 more days!!
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Taylor wins this fight easily*.
*Actually I'm not sure ecause I haven't seen enough of them, but from what I've seen of both of them Taylor wins this fight comfortably.
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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
Taylor wins this fight easily*.
*Actually I'm not sure ecause I haven't seen enough of them, but from what I've seen of both of them Taylor wins this fight comfortably.
I just don't think Taylor will be able to keep Pavlik off of him, Pavlik by TKO
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Published: Monday, September 3, 2007
HBO was in town several days for a one-hour special it will air before the Sept. 29 fight.
By JOE SCALZO
VINDICATOR SPORTS STAFF
Last Thursday, Kelly Pavlik spent seven hours going through brutal training to prepare himself for his upcoming championship fight, then immediately left the gym for a three-hour autograph signing session at the Canfield Fair.
That's when his day got tough.
"I can't eat out there," said Pavlik, whose training diet doesn't include Elephant Ears, stromboli or deep fried Snickers. "I wanted to. It smelled really good."
After knocking out Edison Miranda in May, Pavlik spent much of June and July on the golf course (including the, ahem, 19th hole) in between a litany of public appearances. He also spent time with his family, including his 1-year-old daughter, as his managers solidified plans for a WBC middleweight title fight with Jermain Taylor, which will be held Sept. 29 in Atlantic City.
Training smooth
Last month, he started training again. And, according to Pavlik and his trainer Jack Loew, things are going very well.
"Extremely well," said Loew. "We're actually a little ahead of schedule."
Added Pavlik, "I didn't think I could be in better shape than I was for my last fight, but I am. It's unbelievable.
"It's pretty tiring. I'm training my [rear end] off."
Pavlik and Loew have made two changes since the spring. One, he began working out at a new gym with Paul "Dunner" Dunleavy, an well-known personal trainer in the Valley. (If you've ever run at an area race and seen a guy running with part of a wooden cross across his back, that's Dunner.)
Two, Loew has brought in different sparring partners than the last few fighters, looking for taller, more athletic "boxers" than straight-ahead sluggers. Taylor is known for being an excellent technician and a good defensive boxer.
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"The last four guys we fought were all bangers who would stay in front of us," said Loew, who brought in New Jersey native Richard Pierson and Tyrone Watson of Reading, Pa., and has plans to bring in others. "Those two kids are very fast, athletic-type boxers.
"That's what we need."
Pavlik has done more sparring than strength work, working on his hand speed and his defense. Although some observers question whether Pavlik has good boxing skills — Pavlik is better known for being one of the most powerful punchers in the sport — Loew insists his fighter is more than just a slugger.
"He's actually a great boxer," said Loew. "The problem is, all the way up Kelly knocked so many people out so early, we didn't get a chance to show it."
It took a few sessions for Pavlik to get used to the different sparring style but he's grown more comfortable.
"Everything's coming back to me," said Pavlik. "It just took a little time."
HBO films segment
Pavlik will continue training in Youngstown right up until the week of the fight. HBO, which will televise this month's fight, has been in town several days for an one-hour special it will air before the fight.
Pavlik has cut back on personal appearances in recent weeks — he finally got back on the golf course last week but had to cut his round short after five holes — and has put all his energy into preparation.
"There's no breaks," he said. "Even when I'm done boxing and training, I'll come home and my dad and my family and friends will call or talk about the fight.
"The first thing I think about every day is the fight."
Pavlik has had one minor distraction. His lawyers recently filed a lawsuit against one of his former managers, Anthony Scandy, over a three-year contract that expired in May, a move that drew headlines.
Claim
Scandy insists the contract should be extended due to a hand injury Pavlik suffered midway through the deal. Pavlik's people insist there was no injury.
Pavlik has declined comment for the most part, but when asked about it late last week, he said, "It's not a surprise. I haven't had one dispute with a promoter or an agent in my career and now I have a big fight coming up and all of a sudden there's a controversy coming up."
Pavlik is set to make $1 million for this month's fight. If the contract were extended, he would owe Scandy as much as 13 percent of the purse.
"It's frustrating," said Pavlik, "The contract has been over for four months but it comes up now.
"But this happens to a lot of fighters. I'm the one sweating, bleeding, training and starving myself but everyone wants a part of the deal."
scalzo@vindy.com
Re: Official Taylor Vs Pavlik Poll (News On Pavlik's Training Camp for JT, Last Page
Don't be greedy Pavlik. If you were fighting for Don King you would be fighting for scaps......stop the bitching.
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Originally Posted by boozeboxer
Don't be greedy Pavlik. If you were fighting for Don King you would be fighting for scaps......stop the bitching.
He's not Booze, The guy is trying to extend an contract just to get a piece of the pot.
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Originally Posted by boozeboxer
Don't be greedy Pavlik. If you were fighting for Don King you would be fighting for scaps......stop the bitching.
He's not Booze, The guy is trying to extend an contract just to get a piece of the pot.
I agree Tommy Morrison Duke.....I was shit hammered and pissed off when I wrote that.
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Originally Posted by TheDukeof74
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Originally Posted by boozeboxer
Don't be greedy Pavlik. If you were fighting for Don King you would be fighting for scaps......stop the bitching.
He's not Booze, The guy is trying to extend an contract just to get a piece of the pot.
I agree Tommy Morrison Duke.....I was S*** hammered and pissed off when I wrote that.
LOL Thats cool my friend CC!
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Time to see if Taylor's chin is decent enough to carry him at 168. Pavlik swats like a hard hitting light heavy weight. I cant wait for this one. Pavlik by tko. Go buckeyes
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After Taylor feels Pavlik's power and pressure he will surely fold, Hopkins and Wright are great and they back up Taylor, but neither possessed Pavliks power, Pavlik will knock this guy out.
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Originally Posted by TheDukeof74
After Taylor feels Pavlik's power and pressure he will surely fold, Hopkins and Wright are great and they back up Taylor, but neither possessed Pavliks power, Pavlik will knock this guy out.
Taylor's last 3 opponents were all left handers. So Taylor had a hard time making his jab a factor. That won't be a problem against Pavlik. Taylor's jab will be in his face all night. Taylor by stoppage around the 7th or 8th round
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Originally Posted by TheDukeof74
After Taylor feels Pavlik's power and pressure he will surely fold, Hopkins and Wright are great and they back up Taylor, but neither possessed Pavliks power, Pavlik will knock this guy out.
Taylor's last 3 opponents were all left handers. So Taylor had a hard time making his jab a factor. That won't be a problem against Pavlik. Taylor's jab will be in his face all night. Taylor by stoppage around the 7th or 8th round
I could see Pavlik having trouble with the jab, But Taylor has never fought a boxer of Pavlik's size,power and pressure. And the same can be said about Pavlik never fighting a guy like Taylor, It honestly could go either way, But I'm rooting for Pavlik to stop him.