Haye-Valuev - Who wins? Fact.

I'm intrigued with the outcome...the fight itself, we'll see.

There's so much bad stuff that can happen to Haye if he loses, it's very entertaining to think about. If Haye gets KO'd, what does he say? What does a guy who's heavyweight career is made up of beating 2 bums and talking a ton of trash say when he gets KO'd??? "I was just trying to hype the fight"?, "No one figured I would even take the fight much less win on account of my size"?...I think it might even be worse if Haye loses a boring decision because he has talked nonstop about how he's flashy and how he's going to stir up the heavyweight division...what does he say if that happens???

Either way it's put up or shut up time for Mr. Haye and I'd at least like to see him struggle a bit, maybe hit the deck a time or two.

I'm going with the wookie.Think Haye may hurt himself trying to hard to impress,trying to knock him out and reaching all over the place to get in.Valuev is a swap meet champion but can stick Haye in the face at distance and make it ugly for a very inactive and massively out sized Haye.I honestly would not read much at all into Hayes size contrast to Holyfield and what he was able to do.Even todays ancient Holyfield is a more well rounded and savvy seasoned boxer.Thought Man Mammoth was a bit nervous,hesitant in with him to say the least.Haye is going to have to hit him and hurt him very early to get respect and make him reactive.If Haye gets the KO clean,he should get the accolades also.Will be a statement.

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Originally Posted by ross

Chagaev and Valuev can both take a shot and they can also defend, Haye is crap at both of those.

Haye could deffinitly beat alot of heavies but his chin and stamina will always be a liability, hes going to be too small here, Valuev will maul him.

Also, I reckon Valuev has power, hes never really fought aggressive, against Holyfield (who didnt win because he did nothing but skip away!) he was very passive and he seems to pull his punches alot but I think he might just walk through Haye early!! Haye has annoyed him and he has trained harder than normal because his weights down, hopefully Haye winds him up some more today;D

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Holyfield didn't win likely because the WBA didn't want to be responsible for a decent heavy weight hurting holyfield in his first defence... One of the Klits would seriously hurt him... :-\

During the first half of the fight I found it hard to give Valuev more than one round in the bag and one even... he was garbage, Holyfield was connecting much more, through out the first half of the fight Valuev was barely connecting at all... some rounds literally not at all.

Valuev stunk the place up that night, he couldn't do anything particularly effective against an shop worn ex-cruiserweight who is the best part of 50.

If he boxes smart he wins easy, if he's stupid and dives in then he's in for a hard night.

Don't let your obvious love of haye cloud your judgement though... ;D

Very well put Spicoli...to me Haye should box, he should aim for a decision and if a door opens where he can rip Valuev with big shots he can go ahead and do it, but to think he's just going to have an easy time with this fight and that he can continue to bully heavyweights the way he bullied the cruiserweights is ridiculous.

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Originally Posted by Lyle

Very well put Spicoli...to me Haye should box, he should aim for a decision and if a door opens where he can rip Valuev with big shots he can go ahead and do it, but to think he's just going to have an easy time with this fight and that he can continue to bully heavyweights the way he bullied the cruiserweights is ridiculous.

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He might do well to absolutly forget the head early,Wookie not exactly tight and solid in the wasteline,and there is ton of it.Just alot of wasted energy and might run into a stupid punch getting in.Wonder if Haye will be stamped with the blown up cruiser label ala Holyfield?Well lets see how his first live hvy goes.

I honestly reckon that Haye should be the first to beat Valuev on home turf. (The reason I say this, is that if Holyfield lost to Valuev, then certainly Chagaev lost to Valuev...but the German scoring argument is another debate entirely.

If Haye plays it smart, and boxes his way through, then he's a dead cert, as no-one can give Valuev a round when he struggles to land any punches (hopefully), but if Haye goes for the KO, as he probably will do, throwing big shots at a chin the size of most people's heads, then it's a result that really depends on the matter behind Valuev's chin. If it's granite, he wins, anything softer, and Haye will finish him.

Valuev just sucks. I'm ready to see him go away. The Ruiz fights, the LOSS to Holyfield...

someone just put the horse to pasture already...

Eubank wishing Haye good luck...

Always love the eloquate talk from him. ;D

anyone doing a RBR or have I gone blind? :cool:

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Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy

anyone doing a RBR or have I gone blind? :cool:

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I was just gonna ask this - please help someone as I'm stuck in work :(

Just popped in to say that Valuev's entrance song has to be the worst piece of style matching in marketing history. It's a god damned emo love song, and here you have a giant, hairy and intense 7 foot gorilla walking out to it... what a buzz kill. :-\

I thought Valuev was a big Rammstein fan

Anyone know of a stream ?

Here's your RBR Missy.

Round 1 - :cwm33:

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Originally Posted by Spicoli

Anyone know of a stream ?

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