Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds...Hatton vs Collazo

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Originally Posted by Clydey_2_Times

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Originally Posted by Starr

Any fighter can win and be shown in the same fight.

What bothers me most is that these flaws I saw in the Magee fight are still there in the Collazo fight which isn't a good sign. I think it's too hard for him to change

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One thing being overlooked is how good Collazo is. He is a classy, accurate, awkward southpaw. That combined with Hatton's quite blatant stamina problem from the move up was a major headache for him.

Hatton couldn't get the body punches going either, which had a lot to do with the style. As far as Hatton's flaws, he is a better boxer than people realise. The Tszyu fight supports that. Perhaps not in a conventional sense, but he has a good boxing brain. Tonight's fight just didn't advertise it all that well.

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Mate are you kiddin me! He never boxed tszyu...he mauled him by holding and fouling...and the fact he struggled against collazo OUT of manchester and WITHOUT and english ref and left him stuck with a US ref who DIDNT allow those tactics.

Was the fight good for you Snakey? except for the decision

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Originally Posted by Snakey

Float Like a butter fly, sting like a bee
When pbfs done with hatton...he wont see
Hatton got power but cant fight at this weight
He saw a world title and couldnt resist the bait
Hatton thought hed win with so much ease
Hatton took too many hits, he smelt the cheese ;D

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Couldn't you have said Hatton was exposed tonight, please Kostya come back ???

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No i could not ;D

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Originally Posted by Starr

Was the fight good for you Snakey? except for the decision

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Hell yes, finally i have some support for my "crazy" theories ;D

Alot of questions asked last night,but people,don't get over excited. Hatton is still Hatton and just as it can be argued that Tszyu had an off night against Ricky,the same principle can apply here. I was totally wrong about Collazo,he sounds slick,stylish. I think Ricky should give him a rematch but kudos to Ricky for moving and fighting a world champ straight away,the only thing that worries me is that Collazo's power seems to have bothered Ricky but the guy only has 12 kos or something right :-\ If they have a rematch,and Hatton fares like he did last night,I think he needs to stay at 140 and maybe it will be the end of the PBF Hatton fight? We have to wait and see.....

Starr,Ricky was not exposed......Collazo won but it was no landslide or anything,that is exposure. He was not koed and made to look like a fool was he? That is exposure of the highest order. I would like to see Margarito fight Collazo just to see how he would fare,but hey,if Collazo can't take the power of Hatton,a guy who just moved up and needs time to grow into the division,I doubt he could take Margarito's and I'm pretty certain Margarito could take his.

In concluding,I'd have to say I want the Hitman to give him a rematch and win more convincingly.As for Collazo,sounds impressive,will comment more when I see the fight properly.

Man, looking back over the ridiculously long day that yesterday was....i was awake for around 20 hours, it was just a bloody nail biter all the way through.

The two soccer cup-final's go to penalties, and an amazingly tight fight between Collazo and Hatton. Eventually the favourites all won, but the most nail biting was realising i'd put my Wales t-shirt in with my grey trackies...sitting in the laundrette waiting to see if i'd have pink trackies was the greatest nail biter...and yes, I will now be hitting the gym with pink trackies :-[

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Float Like a butter fly, sting like a bee
When pbfs done with hatton...he wont see
Hatton got power but cant fight at this weight
He saw a world title and couldnt resist the bait
Hatton thought hed win with so much ease
Hatton took too many hits, he smelt the cheese ;D

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Couldn't you have said Hatton was exposed tonight, please Kostya come back ???

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No i could not ;D

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Originally Posted by Starr

Was the fight good for you Snakey? except for the decision

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Hell yes, finally i have some support for my "crazy" theories ;D

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You used to take the high road on Hatton bashing, but this fight as brought out the real you snakey ;D

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Originally Posted by miles

every fighter is entitled to an off night, but the hatton camp needs to work on stopping an repeats....

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Wasn't his off night Magee, and Vilches ??? This was a situation of Hattons flaws getting exposed again :)

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Magee wasn't an off night, Eamonn is a seriously under rated fighter.

Yeah Starr, if you actually watch the Magee and Vilches fights, you'll be able to clearly ditinguish between an off night and a hard nights work.

But i know you already know that ;)

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Float Like a butter fly, sting like a bee
When pbfs done with hatton...he wont see
Hatton got power but cant fight at this weight
He saw a world title and couldnt resist the bait
Hatton thought hed win with so much ease
Hatton took too many hits, he smelt the cheese ;D

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Couldn't you have said Hatton was exposed tonight, please Kostya come back ???

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No i could not ;D

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Was the fight good for you Snakey? except for the decision

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Hell yes, finally i have some support for my "crazy" theories ;D

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You used to take the high road on Hatton bashing, but this fight as brought out the real you snakey ;D

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What can i say...i smelt blood and attacked lol ;D

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Hatton pulled it off Wack... gimmie a call. :beerchug: :beerchug: :beerchug: :beerchug:

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Tried to call...that was a bullshat decision IWO.

Collazo should have atleast gotten a fwockin draw!

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Watch it while sober then, would be my advice. Every single one of you are focusing too much on the last round because Hatton got hurt. Are you forgetting the other 11 rounds? A 2 point round for Hatton in the first.

How did Harold Lederman have it scored? 114-113 to Hatton, I believe. How did Sky have it? Both commentators for Hatton. All 3 judges for Hatton. Collazo is a Don King fighter. You really think they screwed a Don King fighter?

You guys expected too much and Hatton didn't deliver. That does not mean he didn't win though. What about when Floyd lost to Castillo, which he did? Should he have moved back down a weight? Fighters aren't entitled to bad nights?

Honest to God, I have never met a more fickle bunch of people in my life, utterly incapable of stepping back and taking a measured look at the fight.

Rather than considering that Hatton simply had a bad night against a very good southpaw on his first fight at welterweight, he's overrated, should move down a weight and should be out of the P4P list. Nice one, guys.

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I guess I was wrong about the Hatton fans no longer bitching about the Castillo fight...

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No one is bitching about the Castillo fight. I'm drawing a comparison. Should I not do that when it makes most of the people in this thread sound like hypocrites? My point is fighters are entitled to a bad night and even more so then they challenge a very good southpaw for a world title at a new weight.

It's just your typical knee jerk reaction from people eager to see Hatton taken down a peg.

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Click 8)

Two exellent posts Clydey perfectly summing up the idiot "fans" and the fight.

I order everyone to become a Ricky Hatton fan now.... >:mad

CC cLYDEY FOR THOSE 2 posts,awesome stuff man,great points!

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Originally Posted by Clydey_2_Times

Although Hatton has been very clear on not wasting time, since he doesn't intend to stick around for much longer than 3 years at the most, I think he should look for an immediate rematch and lay any doubt to rest. Two reasons: people will never allow him to forget that fight and Collazo is no longer an unknown quantity. Hatton knows exactly what he's dealing with now and I'd fancy him to end any debate in a rematch.

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Totally disagree.

Sorry...I just have to. No one let's anyone forget a close fight...hence Mayweather Castillo or even Judah winning 4-5 rounds...but IWO...that's bullshat.

The thing is...Collazo was doing a lot more than just winning a few rounds...he shook Hatton right back...he went toe to toe with Hatton & I honestly think that he did a hell of a lot better than anyone that has fought him...Kostya included.

A rematch? Collazo deserves one...but I aint sure who I'd go with. How many boxers has Hatton faced? Technical boxer? The reason I ask...I just can't say due to the fact that I haven't followed him throughout his entire career...but I think that the boxer he fought last night gave him a hell of a lot of technical difficulties.

Wack,Hatton was fighting someone he knew would cause him problems. In the amateurs he lost to a tall rangy southpaw too so it was the wrong style,the only probelme for me was Collazo actaully shaking him a few times. I do not think this is the end for Hatton@147 simply because there is no one else like Collazo,he obviously needs time to grow into the division.

Agreed (Wacko) but only because he was a southpaw with a v good defence ;)
Ricky does not need to agree to a rematch because he beat him (Yeah he scraped through and the 8/10 first round helped him to do so) fair and square.
He's now got bigger fish to "Try" and fry.
All in all if im honest.... if Ricky does'nt start to train himself up to move his head way more and move side to side and get round these straight punches to utilise his own weapons,PBF will toy with him with ease 8)
Ricky really is'nt a very boxer at all and got seriously exposed power wise last night.
Roughly the same fights as Mr Calzaghe and compare the faces of both fighters ;)
Nuff said

Go Ricky!!! ;D

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i'L tell you the most surprising thing for me, I could not believe Collazo hurt Hatton that much. 7 pounds making that much difference was a real big surprise to me!! Oscar trying to fight B Hop was heroic!!! In all honesty,I don't think we are going to see a Collazo rematch though but in all honesty,there should be one,just to answer the questions.

No need for a rematch Collazo had his chance and lost ;D

not the greatest showing and Ricky has said afterwards it was the hardest fight he has ever had...

bad day at the office... Mayweather has had one Cotto has had one.

sooooo bring on the big fights i think they will all be looking to fight ricky after last night so its all good for the fans ;)

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Originally Posted by Saddo

No need for a rematch Collazo had his chance and lost ;D

not the greatest showing and Ricky has said afterwards it was the hardest fight he has ever had...

bad day at the office... Mayweather has had one Cotto has had one.

sooooo bring on the big fights i think they will all be looking to fight ricky after last night so its all good for the fans ;)

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i strongly disagree...only if Hatton fights in america will he git big fights....last night proved that if he cant hold and hit Hatton is SH*T. Hes dirty and w/out bias UK reffing hes just another gibroni.
Maybe one big fight to give Hatton a crushing KO loss...lets see him git w/Margarito or PBF...Margie will end his career and put him in a pine box...Hatton wont draw PPV #'s...last night sealed that

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No need for a rematch Collazo had his chance and lost ;D

not the greatest showing and Ricky has said afterwards it was the hardest fight he has ever had...

bad day at the office... Mayweather has had one Cotto has had one.

sooooo bring on the big fights i think they will all be looking to fight ricky after last night so its all good for the fans ;)

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i strongly disagree...only if Hatton fights in america will he git big fights

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you seem to be dissagreing with something that wasnt said ???

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No need for a rematch Collazo had his chance and lost ;D

not the greatest showing and Ricky has said afterwards it was the hardest fight he has ever had...

bad day at the office... Mayweather has had one Cotto has had one.

sooooo bring on the big fights i think they will all be looking to fight ricky after last night so its all good for the fans ;)

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i strongly disagree...only if Hatton fights in america will he git big fights

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you seem to be dissagreing with something that wasnt said ???

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you said "bring on the big fights"...i said "only in america"

now considering Hatton has fought 95% of his fights on the UK i highly doubt after last night he'll be thinking america any time soon unless forced too...i dont see any big fights for him in the UK any time soon...Calzaghe does the same thing...UK only

make any sense?

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No need for a rematch Collazo had his chance and lost ;D

not the greatest showing and Ricky has said afterwards it was the hardest fight he has ever had...

bad day at the office... Mayweather has had one Cotto has had one.

sooooo bring on the big fights i think they will all be looking to fight ricky after last night so its all good for the fans ;)

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i strongly disagree...only if Hatton fights in america will he git big fights

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you seem to be dissagreing with something that wasnt said ???

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you said "bring on the big fights"...i said "only in america"

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i never said they shouldnt be ;)

dont see why he wouldn't go back he got the nod in a close fight ;D

HBO are hard taskmasters he will be in with a big name next ;)

as to whre it is... im not really bothered... but he need to shut out the media next time ;)

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Hatton pulled it off Wack... gimmie a call. :beerchug: :beerchug: :beerchug: :beerchug:

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Tried to call...that was a bullshat decision IWO.

Collazo should have atleast gotten a fwockin draw!

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Watch it while sober then, would be my advice. Every single one of you are focusing too much on the last round because Hatton got hurt. Are you forgetting the other 11 rounds? A 2 point round for Hatton in the first.

How did Harold Lederman have it scored? 114-113 to Hatton, I believe. How did Sky have it? Both commentators for Hatton. All 3 judges for Hatton. Collazo is a Don King fighter. You really think they screwed a Don King fighter?

You guys expected too much and Hatton didn't deliver. That does not mean he didn't win though. What about when Floyd lost to Castillo, which he did? Should he have moved back down a weight? Fighters aren't entitled to bad nights?

Honest to God, I have never met a more fickle bunch of people in my life, utterly incapable of stepping back and taking a measured look at the fight.

Rather than considering that Hatton simply had a bad night against a very good southpaw on his first fight at welterweight, he's overrated, should move down a weight and should be out of the P4P list. Nice one, guys.

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I guess I was wrong about the Hatton fans no longer bitching about the Castillo fight...

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No one is bitching about the Castillo fight. I'm drawing a comparison. Should I not do that when it makes most of the people in this thread sound like hypocrites? My point is fighters are entitled to a bad night and even more so then they challenge a very good southpaw for a world title at a new weight.

It's just your typical knee jerk reaction from people eager to see Hatton taken down a peg.

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Click 8)

Two exellent posts Clydey perfectly summing up the idiot "fans" and the fight.

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Gotta agree, you hit the nail on the head Clydey, nothing more need be said.

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Wack,Hatton was fighting someone he knew would cause him problems. In the amateurs he lost to a tall rangy southpaw too so it was the wrong style,the only probelme for me was Collazo actaully shaking him a few times. I do not think this is the end for Hatton@147 simply because there is no one else like Collazo,he obviously needs time to grow into the division.

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Let me say this a lot of people (not you G) seem to be takin what I'm saying & running with it.

I think that Hatton looked a mess last night...I didn't say that that was the end for Hatton...I just said that after seeing him in with Collazo it lowered my overall expectations of him taking out Floyd as I thought he previously may have a chance of doing so.

Southpaw or not...if people thought Collazo made Hatton look bad...I think Floyd totally exposes him. Floyd may not have the power that Collazo had last night (but supposedly lacks against others in the past) then Floyd triples that lack of power with skills.

There may not be anyone like Collazo...but there are fighters superior to him...then again...only seen Collazo in one full fight & a few snippets.

Hatton needs time to grow...but again...all roads end at Floyd.

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Agreed (Wacko) but only because he was a southpaw with a v good defence ;)
Ricky does not need to agree to a rematch because he beat him (Yeah he scraped through and the 8/10 first round helped him to do so) fair and square.
He's now got bigger fish to "Try" and fry.
All in all if im honest.... if Ricky does'nt start to train himself up to move his head way more and move side to side and get round these straight punches to utilise his own weapons,PBF will toy with him with ease 8)
Ricky really is'nt a very boxer at all and got seriously exposed power wise last night.
Roughly the same fights as Mr Calzaghe and compare the faces of both fighters ;)
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:coolclick: smash.

Saying that Collazo deserves a rematch...well he does...he was the one with the strap & Hatton was on the move up & Collazo took Hatton the full 12 & he wasnt just lucky. Hatton strapped one on & rode Collazo hard...thing is...he broke it off & rode Hatton right back...Brokeback that is. :-X Heh heh heh.

Anyways...I'd rather see Hatton take on an underling instead of a top dog right now...fwock it...throw him in with Gatti or Baldo & let him stop one of them...he can.

Alright kiddies...the big weekend is almost over...so off the sticky we go.

Cheers fellers...it was another good one.

I like Ricky very much, But Callazo fought a lot like a poor man version of Mayweather with speed, power and accurracy. I think Hatton should drop back down in weight if he can and fight his last five fights there. I think Mayweather would smoke him. But every fighter has a bad night and deserves a second chance.. Hatton should use his jab a little more also, But these are just my opinions.

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I like Ricky very much, But Callazo fought a lot like a poor man version of Mayweather with speed, power and accurracy. I think Hatton should drop back down in weight if he can and fight his last five fights there. I think Mayweather would smoke him. But every fighter has a bad night and deserves a second chance.. Hatton should use his jab a little more also, But these are just my opinions.

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I agree 100% :)

Why is everyone saying no need for a rematch. Fear that Collazo will do better and Ricky won't.

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Why is everyone saying no need for a rematch. Fear that Collazo will do better and Ricky won't.

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Oh my. ;D

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Why is everyone saying no need for a rematch. Fear that Collazo will do better and Ricky won't.

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Oh my. ;D

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I knew you'd like that ;)

You've always been more keen of the feisty purist. So I'm trying to be wit by little without stepping too out of line :-\

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Why is everyone saying no need for a rematch. Fear that Collazo will do better and Ricky won't.

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to be honest i dont see the need for a rematch because i thought hatton won....it was a close fight and not everybody will have have scored the fight the same as me...so........

at the end of the day, if a rematch is decided then i have no qualms with that....

i think hatton would do much better next time out....

In a rematch...Hatton KO 8. I think he comes in better trained, better conditioned, better adjusted to the U.S., better adjusted to Collazo, and wins the fight going away. I've seen a bit of Collazo before and I can say that he was at his VERY best last night. I don't think he can possibly outdo himself. I've been wrong before though.

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Originally Posted by SecondRoundKO

In a rematch...Hatton KO 8. I think he comes in better trained, better conditioned, better adjusted to the U.S., better adjusted to Collazo, and wins the fight going away. I've seen a bit of Collazo before and I can say that he was at his VERY best last night. I don't think he can possibly outdo himself. I've been wrong before though.

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CC,good points BUT i DON'T THINK hATTON WANTS TO FIGHT HIM AGAIN.Seriously,straight after the fight,I don't remember him mentioning a rematch although I thinkhe should give one,just to quell any fears! Wack,agree with your points,from a US perspefctive.casual fan,you see last night and you are thinking what was all the hype about I guess :-\

Hypothetically speaking,if there a Floyd Hatton fight was announced for later this year,my money would be on....Floyd....

i have to admit, i never thought hatton would keep walking foreward without moving his head or ven puuting his hands up... he didnt do that against tszyu, he was anticipating a jab, blocking the jab, and ducking under the straight that followed the jab...

maybe he just didnt create a srategy for collazzo cuz he hadnt seen him?

i dont know but that fight looked real bad, he better have someone who can explain to him what he did wrong or he is fucked, also he has to stop walking around england posing for pictures with fat bitches, maybe that got his eyes off the prize

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i have to admit, i never thought hatton would keep walking foreward without moving his head or ven puuting his hands up... he didnt do that against tszyu, he was anticipating a jab, blocking the jab, and ducking under the straight that followed the jab...

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:coolclick: Excellent little analysis right there.

He fought like Miguel Cotto fought against Ricardo Torres imo except Cotto fought a stand up guy with pop.

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In a rematch...Hatton KO 8. I think he comes in better trained, better conditioned, better adjusted to the U.S., better adjusted to Collazo, and wins the fight going away. I've seen a bit of Collazo before and I can say that he was at his VERY best last night. I don't think he can possibly outdo himself. I've been wrong before though.

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CC,good points BUT i DON'T THINK hATTON WANTS TO FIGHT HIM AGAIN.Seriously,straight after the fight,I don't remember him mentioning a rematch although I thinkhe should give one,just to quell any fears! Wack,agree with your points,from a US perspefctive.casual fan,you see last night and you are thinking what was all the hype about I guess :-\

Hypothetically speaking,if there a Floyd Hatton fight was announced for later this year,my money would be on....Floyd....

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CC back. And Hatton was adiment about rematching Collazo in the rematch and now he's offered Collazo one.

Oh,where did you hear the secondroundko bro? Will there be a rematch?

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Originally Posted by The Game

Oh,where did you hear the secondroundko bro? Will there be a rematch?

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