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re: Haye v Bellew - 4/3/17 rd-by-rd
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Originally Posted by
ross
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smashup don't be such a fucking sap!
go on YouTube and look at other sportsmen getting the same injury then tell me this is genuine. He was still putting full weight on and pushing off the right leg. If someone was sad enough they could probably isolate footage of his right calf tensing as he pushes off his right toes which without being attached to the foot would not be possible.
Ross, you only turn up here as a Tyson Fury promoter or as a Haye spoiler, with neither of their events on the card you retreat and are not around, I do not care to guess which websites you honour with your attendance during this close season, hopefully they are gardening or needlework related.
Is there any chance you could fuck off for good? Suggest any boxing related charity and I'll get a wip up.
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re: Haye v Bellew - 4/3/17 rd-by-rd
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Originally Posted by
nuggetdotcom
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Originally Posted by
ross
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smashup don't be such a fucking sap!
go on YouTube and look at other sportsmen getting the same injury then tell me this is genuine. He was still putting full weight on and pushing off the right leg. If someone was sad enough they could probably isolate footage of his right calf tensing as he pushes off his right toes which without being attached to the foot would not be possible.
Ross, you only turn up here as a Tyson Fury promoter or as a Haye spoiler, with neither of their events on the card you retreat and are not around, I do not care to guess which websites you honour with your attendance during this close season, hopefully they are gardening or needlework related.
Is there any chance you could fuck off for good? Suggest any boxing related charity and I'll get a wip up.
Grow up
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re: Haye v Bellew - 4/3/17 rd-by-rd
First he grew a virgina on his eye, now on his foot.
Extraordinary.
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re: Haye v Bellew - 4/3/17 rd-by-rd
I can't stand the bloke and take every opportunity possible to have a pop at him but to try and say he wasn't injured is fucking laughable even from Ross
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re: Haye v Bellew - 4/3/17 rd-by-rd
Could someone please post a video proving me otherwise where an athlete has suffered a ruptured Achilles and been able to continue.
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re: Haye v Bellew - 4/3/17 rd-by-rd
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Originally Posted by
ross
Could someone please post a video proving me otherwise where an athlete has suffered a ruptured Achilles and been able to continue.
Is it your opinion that there was no injury at all? all that wobbling around the ring was an act?
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re: Haye v Bellew - 4/3/17 rd-by-rd
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Originally Posted by
erics44
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Originally Posted by
ross
Could someone please post a video proving me otherwise where an athlete has suffered a ruptured Achilles and been able to continue.
Is it your opinion that there was no injury at all? all that wobbling around the ring was an act?
Ross must be saying it was not ruptured Achilles because it would be impossible to put any weight on it and it must be something else/ another injury.
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re: Haye v Bellew - 4/3/17 rd-by-rd
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Originally Posted by
ross
Could someone please post a video proving me otherwise where an athlete has suffered a ruptured Achilles and been able to continue.
You are the one with the bizarre outlandish theories it's not the job of everyone else not believing your conspiracy ideas to disprove anything. You have to come up with evidence it was a fake as you keep insisting. People are indulging you but you are not going to find anything.
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Originally Posted by
ross
Could someone please post a video proving me otherwise where an athlete has suffered a ruptured Achilles and been able to continue.
Post one yourself! It's you who's trying to make the stupid fucking point.
Tbh I think the fact you doubted his shoulder injury is even more fuckin irrational .
Yeah , he deliberately never fought for 3 1/2 years just so people would believe he was injured.
I'm on my phone so I don't have the "rolleyes" emoji. But suffice to say you're a silly cunt! ππ
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re: Haye v Bellew - 4/3/17 rd-by-rd
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Originally Posted by
ross
Could someone please post a video proving me otherwise where an athlete has suffered a ruptured Achilles and been able to continue.
I have a video of just that.
I will post it just as soon as you post a video from a medical expert (psychiatrist) confirming that Tyson Fury has mental health issues and isnt just a bit of a prick because frankly, as much as we all love Peter and Billy Joe, their word just isnt good enough.
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re: Haye v Bellew - 4/3/17 rd-by-rd
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Originally Posted by
ross
Could someone please post a video proving me otherwise where an athlete has suffered a ruptured Achilles and been able to continue.
@ross
Take a friendly warning and stop shitting up threads with your non stop bullshit ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUndIrOZuLM
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re: Haye v Bellew - 4/3/17 rd-by-rd
To be fair to Ross, I have heard it is like being shot and you are unable to walk, in the boxing weekly McKenzie says that is what happens and he has utmost respect for Haye to even stand let alone carry on.
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re: Haye v Bellew - 4/3/17 rd-by-rd
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Originally Posted by
Master
To be fair to Ross, I have heard it is like being shot and you are unable to walk, in the boxing weekly McKenzie says that is what happens and he has utmost respect for Haye to even stand let alone carry on.
Ive heard that its quite a nice experience and up there with being wanked off with a bog roll tube lined with 40 grit.
I was going to post the video Smash posted, but it's probably all lies and made up. You cant keep stumbling alone with a ruptured achillies, let alone hurdle. Duke McKenzie said so ;D
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re: Haye v Bellew - 4/3/17 rd-by-rd
That video shows an athlete slowly hobbling round and at no point putting full force on her damaged leg because with a ruptured Achilles she is not able to. When you throw a right hand punch it's like doing a sprint start off your right foot and Haye was able to do that "when he got his breath back" after the 6th round which would be impossible with a ruptured right Achilles. She is only moved forward upright, basically walking, not launching forward throwing all her body weight in to right hands trying to knock someone out.;D:rolleyes:
You all know it to be true;)
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re: Haye v Bellew - 4/3/17 rd-by-rd
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Originally Posted by
Master
To be fair to Ross, I have heard it is like being shot and you are unable to walk, in the boxing weekly McKenzie says that is what happens and he has utmost respect for Haye to even stand let alone carry on.
Theres lots of similar subversive comments from fellow athletes saying how impossible it would be to fight on with a ruptured Achilles then patting Haye on the back for doing just that. Basically calling bullshit without saying it.
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re: Haye v Bellew - 4/3/17 rd-by-rd
Can I change the subject and say what a complete and utter cunt Haye was to try and knock Bellew's head off when Bellew offered to touch gloves? That was a very cheap and desperate move.
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re: Haye v Bellew - 4/3/17 rd-by-rd
David Haye has reiterated his trust in his trainer, Shane McGuigan, who threw in the towel in the 11th round to hand Tony Bellew a stunning victory.
Haye was left hobbling on a damaged Achilles from the sixth round but valiantly fought on, only for McGuigan to withdraw him in the penultimate period to seal Bellew's stunning triumph.
"I believe Shane gave me ample time to turn the fight around - five rounds, basically," Haye exclusively told Sky Sports.
"I had to do something to change the flow of the fight. I did a couple of times, I landed some big shots that hurt him, but I couldn't close the range to finish him off.
"If Shane threw the towel in, he saw something. Maybe he wanted to save me for another day. I trust his opinion, I back him.
"I wish the towel didn't come in, and I wish he didn't do it. But he did it, and I respect his opinion."
Haye teamed up with McGuigan to relaunch his career a year ago and they have worked together for three fights, with Bellew regularly questioning the strength of their relationship in a heated build-up to last weekend's fight.
The 36-year-old has since told Sky Sports News HQ that he wants a rematch but Bellew has been non-committal on his future, even admitting that his trainer Dave Coldwell wants him to retire.
Haye still 'trusts' McGuigan
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re: Haye v Bellew - 4/3/17 rd-by-rd
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Originally Posted by
ross
That video shows an athlete slowly hobbling round and at no point putting full force on her damaged leg because with a ruptured Achilles she is not able to. When you throw a right hand punch it's like doing a sprint start off your right foot and Haye was able to do that "when he got his breath back" after the 6th round which would be impossible with a ruptured right Achilles. She is only moved forward upright, basically walking, not launching forward throwing all her body weight in to right hands trying to knock someone out.;D:rolleyes:
You all know it to be true;)
So to confirm, you now want a video of an athlete who has suffered a ruptured achillies but shows zero affects of doing so? Are they allowed to grimace?
Before I accept the challenge please post a video of David Haye post round 6, up on his toes, launching himself into a right cross. A wild flat footed swing will not suffice, I want a technically correct execution of the punch.
Off you go.
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re: Haye v Bellew - 4/3/17 rd-by-rd
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Originally Posted by
ross
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Originally Posted by
Master
To be fair to Ross, I have heard it is like being shot and you are unable to walk, in the boxing weekly McKenzie says that is what happens and he has utmost respect for Haye to even stand let alone carry on.
Theres lots of similar subversive comments from fellow athletes saying how impossible it would be to fight on with a ruptured Achilles then patting Haye on the back for doing just that. Basically calling bullshit without saying it.
Please post a video of Duke McKenzie rupturing an achillies mid fight and quitting because he was unable to walk.
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re: Haye v Bellew - 4/3/17 rd-by-rd
So I did not manage to change the subject then? :)
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re: Haye v Bellew - 4/3/17 rd-by-rd
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Batman
You do realise that proved my point? He did no more running after, just hobbled to a stand still and gently lobbed a ball in the air then the commentators say "Kobe Bryant cannot continue" and he hobbles straight off!;D;D
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re: Haye v Bellew - 4/3/17 rd-by-rd
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Originally Posted by
ross
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Originally Posted by
Batman
You do realise that proved my point? He did no more running after, just hobbled to a stand still and gently lobbed a ball in the air then the commentators say "Kobe Bryant cannot continue" and he hobbles straight off!;D;D
first of all he ''literally would not have been able to walk'' because ''you need it to move your fucking foot''
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Now the more laws of physics point. If that tendon really snapped completely in the 6th, he wouldn't have just had a hobble, he litterally would not have been able walk because that's an essential part of your leg for walking. You need it to move your fucking foot, without it how the fuck are your calfs going to do anything if they aren't attached to your foot?!!!;D
so someone posts a video of someone doing something which resembles jogging (albeit not very fast as you can see the pain etched on her face) and stepping over hurdles
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That video shows an athlete slowly hobbling round and at no point putting full force on her damaged leg because with a ruptured Achilles she is not able to.
not good enough though, you get a video of someone who walks himself off the court (something which he literally couldn't do due to his injury) without much of a limp, he then takes time out (something which Haye didn't have the luxury of) walks back onto the court, throws three baskets or whatever (I'm not a basketball fan so the terminology may be wrong) and then walks himself back off the court after that.
now I'm guessing that as Basketball is a team sport what they would have had is the luxury of a substitute, there was no need for him to continue, Haye was in a ring with someone who was paid to punch him in the face ''Oh hang on a minute Tony, go easy on me, I think I've just snapped my fucking leg in half'' Haye wasn't running around the ring like a fucking sprinter he was backed up on the ropes because he could barely walk.
Now could you post a video of the Haye v Bellew fight and tell us what minute we have to watch to see this explosive right hand which took an almighty leap for him to attempt because we are all still waiting for that.
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re: Haye v Bellew - 4/3/17 rd-by-rd
@Batman that basketball video says tear. Read the difference between tear and rupture. Rupture means completely snapped. Tear is just a tear and will still have function:cool:;D
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re: Haye v Bellew - 4/3/17 rd-by-rd
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ross
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Batman that basketball video says tear. Read the difference between tear and rupture. Rupture means completely snapped. Tear is just a tear and will still have function:cool:;D
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Bryant completely tore his Achilles tendon and made two free throws before walking off under his own power. Even in the most vulnerable moment of his career, Kobe was defiant. He refused to let anything, even immense physical pain, defeat him.
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A successful procedure is performed by Dr. Neal ElAttrache, director of the Sports Medicine Fellowship program at Kerlan-Jobe Orthopaedic Clinic in Los Angeles. The following day, the surgeon speaks with Sam Farmer of the L.A. Times, describing Bryantβs rupture as typical of hundreds he has repaired over a period of 23 years. He adds that the procedure can be likened to stitching together two ends of a mop.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZH9ThMDq6c
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Surprisingly, there are no differences between a complete tear and a rupture. However, a tear can be partial or complete. An Achilles tendon injury, for instance, can be a tear or a rupture. ... The Achilles tendon is often torn or ruptured during quick movements, such as starting a race.14 Jan 2014
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re: Haye v Bellew - 4/3/17 rd-by-rd
It doesn't matter how severe Hayes injury was , at the end of the day he lost to a fat CW.
He is nothing more than a show pony now living in the past.
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Keep going Ross, that hole is nearly dug! ππ
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re: Haye v Bellew - 4/3/17 rd-by-rd
But again he still did t run or jump off it did he unless there's footage that wasn't on that video and he had to get off the court because he couldn't continue! You lot crack me up;D
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re: Haye v Bellew - 4/3/17 rd-by-rd
Ross, you are like Don Quixote chasing windmills. You must be Tyson Fury.
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re: Haye v Bellew - 4/3/17 rd-by-rd
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ross
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Batman that basketball video says tear. Read the difference between tear and rupture. Rupture means completely snapped. Tear is just a tear and will still have function:cool:;D
Just Fuck off back to boozed out Jersey and leave us alone until the next (maybe never) coked up Pikey fight.
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re: Haye v Bellew - 4/3/17 rd-by-rd
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ross
But again he still did t run or jump off it did he unless there's footage that wasn't on that video and he had to get off the court because he couldn't continue! You lot crack me up;D
Funnily enough david haye didn't run or jump and after 15 minutes in the ring he couldn't continue either.
I know you are just trolling bur I'd really like to see you back it up with video evidence.
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re: Haye v Bellew - 4/3/17 rd-by-rd
@ross produce the evidence or i'll ban you
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re: Haye v Bellew - 4/3/17 rd-by-rd
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Originally Posted by
smashup
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ross produce the evidence or i'll ban you
this thread was getting tiresome until this
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re: Haye v Bellew - 4/3/17 rd-by-rd
Ross doesn't need evidence his outstanding credentials speak for themselves.
Not only is he the only person on earth that picked Fury to annihilate Wlad but the coup de grace - he once sat ringside to judge an amateur fight in a scout hut, there ain't nothing he doesn't know about boxing. Fact.
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re: Haye v Bellew - 4/3/17 rd-by-rd
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Originally Posted by
Dark Lord Al
It doesn't matter how severe Hayes injury was , at the end of the day he lost to a fat CW.
He is nothing more than a show pony now living in the past.
This................... is the real point of it all.
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re: Haye v Bellew - 4/3/17 rd-by-rd
After Tony Bellew became one of the most wanted heavyweights in the world, we asked him to assess five possible opponents.
The 'Bomber' is considering one more fight against the biggest men in boxing following Saturday's stoppage victory over David Haye at The O2.
Haye has already called for a rematch, while two world champions are also being considered by Bellew, who gives his brutally honest verdict.
Deontay Wilder
He's extremely explosive and powerful. Leaky defence and exactly what it says on the tin - wild at times. But an exceptional fighter, very fast, someone I rate highly.
He's a heavyweight champion of the world and I'm the best heavyweight outside the champions, so make of that what you will. I don't know what else I can say about it.
David Haye
Still a brilliant fighter. Still very fast, still very powerful. Would I fight him again? Yeah, and I would beat him again as well.
I could potentially get him out earlier, because he will show me a lot more respect this time. I won't have to gain and earn his respect, like I did in the first fight. It takes time to do that.
Tyson Fury
I rate Tyson Fury highly. A very, very good fighter. Let's not forget what he did in Germany. He did the unthinkable, no-one gave him a hope, and he went there and did it.
A man who has fought the odds like me, we're champions of the misfits. He doesn't aesthetically look very beautiful, similar to me, but the man can fight - he can really, really fight.
If everything goes well and he passes everything he needs to pass, then it's a fight that can potentially happen, yes it is.
Joseph Parker
He's a shorter, solid fighter. A throwback to the old heavyweight days. He's not your modern day giant of a heavyweight. He's big and he's solid, but I think he is the lesser of the other champions.
I still think he's a brilliant fighter, he's very good at what he does, but he is not as good as Anthony Joshua or Deontay Wilder.
Dillian Whyte
I'm not even going to give him the time of day. What he said is I'm going to get 'absolutely smoked' by David Haye.
He was wrong and why am I going to fight someone in a final world title eliminator, who got knocked out in a British title fight? Why would I fight him when I have got every world champion calling my name? It makes no sense whatsoever.
I'm not going to knock out the best heavyweight in the world outside the champions and then fight a guy who lost for the British title.
Dream location
I have already fought at my dream location. You know what, I do like the sound of Wembley.
Could I fill Wembley? I don't know. Would enough people want to see me fight at Wembley? I don't know, but I do like the sound of Wembley.
Bellew analyses five opponents
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re: Haye v Bellew - 4/3/17 rd-by-rd
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Originally Posted by
smashup
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ross produce the evidence or i'll ban you
Piss off crybaby.
Ban yourself for altering my post;D
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re: Haye v Bellew - 4/3/17 rd-by-rd
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Originally Posted by
ross
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Originally Posted by
smashup
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ross produce the evidence or i'll ban you
Piss off crybaby.
Ban yourself for altering my post;D
Nobody has altered any of your posts @ross
Any evidence of your claims or are you gonna remain an annoying troll?