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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zF07qW6gYwQ
Drove a van through a tent that was registering voters and charged with "aggravated assault" & "criminal mischief"......yyyyyyyyeah how's about an "assault with a deadly weapon" and "attempted murder" but nah, can't be doing that I mean after all these were Trump voters he attacked so it's a good thing he attempted to kill them.
Looks like a real winner too
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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/05/n...e-bombing.html
The world is full of crazy people Lyle. A good quality to have is the ability to put these sort of things in context.
What context would that be Kirk?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
Mmmm all those resignations. I wonder what that's about?
Oh and Jussie Smollet has been indicted, fun.
Seems it's about a direct response to apparent corruption and political influence trouncing the rule of law. It's abundantly clear that Barr sees himself a personnel attorney rather than the head of an Independent DOJ. This is as swampy and crooked as any imaginative boogeyman conspiracy even the most dedicate tin-foil hat could come up with.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
Yeh bad guy. Lock him up ???. Sadly they'll be more of this from deranged kooks on either "side" :pQuote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
:scratchchin: Now that COULD, be the case. Seriously that COULD be what has happened......What also COULD be the case?Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
7-9 Years for Roger Stone who did what exactly besides just be a loud and at times outrageous supporter of Trump? I mean what did Roger Stone do which caused for a team larger than what we're told took down Bin Laden to be used to bring him in? Was that necessary or was that a show of force and an intimidation tactic? And again it's very important to understand this kind of action from the FBI is not a one off under President Trump. Look at the General Flynn case as well, withholding Brady material. Look at Manafort even....solitary confinement? For what? Do we see a pattern yet? The object of this is clearly to intimidate someone into cracking and telling the FBI not the truth, but what the FBI wishes to hear.
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Originally Posted by El Kabong:scratchchin: Now that COULD, be the case. Seriously that COULD be what has happened......What also COULD be the case?Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
7-9 Years for Roger Stone who did what exactly besides just be a loud and at times outrageous supporter of Trump? I mean what did Roger Stone do which caused for a team larger than what we're told took down Bin Laden to be used to bring him in? Was that necessary or was that a show of force and an intimidation tactic? And again it's very important to understand this kind of action from the FBI is not a one off under President Trump. Look at the General Flynn case as well, withholding Brady material. Look at Manafort even....solitary confinement? For what? Do we see a pattern yet? The object of this is clearly to intimidate someone into cracking and telling the FBI not the truth, but what the FBI wishes to hear.
Stone was convicted of serious crimes: lying to Congress and witness tampering. His recommended sentence was by the book — literally. Federal prosecutors go by a manual from the U.S. Sentencing Guidelines Commission that lays out appropriate sentences for specific offenses. The seven- to nine-year sentence that prosecutors had sought was precisely what equal justice mandated.
Keep in mind, however, that Stone chose to go to trial. He also sought to vilify the prosecution and engage in circus maneuvers designed to suggest his prosecution was a joke. Federal defendants who engage in such tactics virtually never receive sentences lighter than the guidelines stipulate. The system would break down were it otherwise.
But that anomaly is the least of the outrages in this situation. More worrisome is the naked countermand of the recommendation of career prosecutors in favor of a sweetheart recommendation for a political ally of the president. This is indefensible in the U.S. justice system for any reason, least of all raw political favoritism.
I have never experienced or even heard of a situation in which a career prosecutor had been ordered to withdraw a sentencing memorandum within the guidelines’ range. The original filing in the Stone case came from two career federal prosecutors and two special assistant U.S. attorneys. This rebuke has to be maddening for them.
That's a former DOJ duputy AG. It's behind a paywall so no link.
WASHINGTON — The U.S. attorney who had presided over an inconclusive criminal investigation into former acting FBI director Andrew McCabe was abruptly removed from the job last month in one of several recent moves by Attorney General William Barr to take control of legal matters of personal interest to President Donald Trump, according to multiple people familiar with the matter.
A person familiar with the matter confirmed to NBC News that Trump has rescinded the nomination of Jessie Liu, who had been the U.S. attorney for Washington, D.C., for a job as an undersecretary at the Treasury Department.
Liu also supervised the case against Trump associate Roger Stone. On Tuesday, all four line prosecutors withdrew from the case — and one quit the Justice Department altogether — after Barr and his top aides intervened to reverse a stiff sentencing recommendation of up to nine years in prison that the line prosecutors had filed with the court Monday. (Liu left before the sentencing recommendation was made.)
But that wasn't the first time senior political appointees had reached into a case involving a former Trump aide, officials told NBC News. Senior officials at the Justice Department also intervened last month to help change the government's sentencing recommendation for Trump's former national security adviser Michael Flynn, who pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI. While the prosecutors had once recommended up to six months in jail, their latest filing now says they believe probation would be appropriate.
"I've never seen this happen, ever," said Gregory Brower, a former U.S. attorney for Nevada and senior FBI official. "I'd be shocked if the judge didn't order the U.S. attorney to come into court to explain it."
David Laufman, a former counterintelligence chief for the Justice Department, on Twitter called it "a shocking, cram-down political intervention in the criminal justice process. We are now truly at a break-glass-in-case-of-fire moment for the Justice Dept."
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/jus...ncing-n1135231
In whatever fucked up places you get your information from these resignations are presumably part of this FBI railroading of innocent people connected to Trump, like innocent Roger Stone who also threatened the judge during his trial and said that he would "never roll on Trump" as he'd been one of the intermediaries between the Trump campaign and the Russians. Oh and the Flynn judge says zero exonerating material was withheld and Flynn's lawyers' claims are conspiracy garbage. Manafort was put in solitary confinement by the prison warder for his own safety, the FBI don't put people in solitary confinement. Again if you read a newspaper you'd know this.
In the real world this is just part of the continued banana republicisation of America. Your country is going down the toilet in record time. The Fed and the financial system will be next.
Oooh ITALICS fancy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
1. Roger Stone was only found guilty of lying to Congress.
1A. Many a person has lied to Congress and not served a single day in prison
2. “I never in any way felt that Stone himself posed a direct physical threat to me or my dog,” ......who said that? Randy Credico, who is that? Oh that's the witness Stone is said to have "tampered" with
3. Robert Mueller hand picked these folks to run this case
4. The judge can sentence Stone to however long she wants and hell she'll probably add a few years just like she sent Manafort off to solitary.....Trump can still pardon Stone and he probably will.
The anomaly here is the severity of the punishment 7-9 for a nonviolent crime? 7-9 for a crime that is selectively prosecuted? All Trump said and all Barr DID was say 7-9 is too much and boom 4 resignations and immediate bellyaching from the lefties. Calls for yet another bite at the impeachment apple....maybe Trump can get impeached twice and even then he'd STILL win in November.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
There you are, in stunned disbelief.....when will that light finally click on for you? When there's the first arrest maybe? Maybe.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
I guess you'd know. I mean after all, you knew this was coming right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
Yes, that's exactly what happened Lyle. Stone was found guilty on 7 Felonies in a Federal court of law by a jury of his piers. The hearing is over. His day in court has concluded. The President intervened prior to the hearing, at the time of the verdict and now at the sentencing. POTUS has zero business interjecting himself for political influence and favor to cast aside, reduce or intimidate lawful jury verdicts! Period. Not that complicated at all. He's too far gone and we are not and never will be an Autocracy ffs. His conduct as of late is down right shameful.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong:scratchchin: Now that COULD, be the case. Seriously that COULD be what has happened......What also COULD be the case?Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
7-9 Years for Roger Stone who did what exactly besides just be a loud and at times outrageous supporter of Trump? I mean what did Roger Stone do which caused for a team larger than what we're told took down Bin Laden to be used to bring him in? Was that necessary or was that a show of force and an intimidation tactic? And again it's very important to understand this kind of action from the FBI is not a one off under President Trump. Look at the General Flynn case as well, withholding Brady material. Look at Manafort even....solitary confinement? For what? Do we see a pattern yet? The object of this is clearly to intimidate someone into cracking and telling the FBI not the truth, but what the FBI wishes to hear.
OK then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
His conduct makes sense given the circumstances.....but hey believe me later.
And that's exactly why the actions of the DOJ should be alarming regardless of party. The inference is it's an opening salvo to be used as a tool for the Presidents personnel political grievances, rule of law and integrity of this Republic be damned. Now he suggests the Pentagon might, maybe, could look further into against Vindman. This is not us.
To far gone brother. Off the tracks careening through the woods.
He just just pardon him and be done with it. Stone had nothing to do with Russia but got caught up in the probe. It’s hard to swallow people being incarcerated for lying to Congress when during the Russia probe some of the top Dems were lying about evidence they had and have spent a career Lying to the public and each other. When the Supreme Court ruled law enforcement can lie to suspects being interviewed but lying to them is a crime it’s a law that puts them above the law. Screw them, the public’s rating of congress has been horrible for years but they don’t get the message. Term limits are the only solution.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3DvVnAahsU
Stone juror says she 'stands with' the prosecutors
https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/12/polit...m_source=twCNN
A juror on the Roger Stone trial said she wants to "stand up" for the four prosecutors who withdrew from the case in response to their sentencing recommendation being changed by Department of Justice leadership.
Tomeka Hart said she had remained silent about the case for months out of concern for her safety and "politicizing the matter."
But the events this week led to her to post on her Facebook account that she "can't keep quiet any longer." A copy of the posting was shared with CNN. Hart confirmed to CNN that she wrote the post but did not want to discuss it further.
"I want to stand up for Aaron Zelinsky, Adam Jed, Michael Marando, and Jonathan Kravis -- the prosecutors on the Roger Stone trial," she wrote in the post that was shared with CNN. "It pains me to see the DOJ now interfere with the hard work of the prosecutors. They acted with the utmost intelligence, integrity, and respect for our system of justice."
.....why I do believe that's grounds for a mistrial :spit:
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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
1. Roger Stone was only found guilty of lying to Congress.
1A. Many a person has lied to Congress and not served a single day in prison
2. “I never in any way felt that Stone himself posed a direct physical threat to me or my dog,” ......who said that? Randy Credico, who is that? Oh that's the witness Stone is said to have "tampered" with
3. Robert Mueller hand picked these folks to run this case
4. The judge can sentence Stone to however long she wants and hell she'll probably add a few years just like she sent Manafort off to solitary.....Trump can still pardon Stone and he probably will.
The anomaly here is the severity of the punishment 7-9 for a nonviolent crime? 7-9 for a crime that is selectively prosecuted? All Trump said and all Barr DID was say 7-9 is too much and boom 4 resignations and immediate bellyaching from the lefties. Calls for yet another bite at the impeachment apple....maybe Trump can get impeached twice and even then he'd STILL win in November.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
There you are, in stunned disbelief.....when will that light finally click on for you? When there's the first arrest maybe? Maybe.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
I guess you'd know. I mean after all, you knew this was coming right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
Stone was found guilty of lying to congress, witness tampering and obstruction of justice. The Federal rulebook says people guilty of those crimes face seven to nine years which is what prosecutors were asking with Stone.
The judge did not put Manafort in solitary, the prison warder did. Manafort was in a private cell for his own safety with his own bathroom, computer and phone.
Barr stepped in and altered the decision of the line prosecutors in the case and gave a much reduced sentencing guideline. The four prosecutors involved all then resigned. Trump congratulated Barr for inserting himself into the case and recommending a much reduced prison sentence for Stone for crimes Stone committed to protect the president. Trump will eventually pardon Stone, or at least commute the sentence because pardoning Stone means he loses the right to claim the Fifth in any subsequent investigation and could be imprisoned until he tells the truth about what Trump knew about the Russian election interference.
I remember when Bill Clinton havig a brief public encounter on an airport runway with the Obama Attorney General was evidence that the whole Obama administration was a cesspool of corruption. You claimed that Lynch was going to jail for involving herself in the Hillary Clinton investigation even though she took no further part in it. Here we have the president congratulating the Attorney General for carrying out his wishes to see Stone given a much reduced sentence with possibly even no jail time. Trump is also openly pushing for investigations into various Demoratci/Obama people and his Attorney General has recently opened another investigation into Comey, is keeping one against McCabe alive even though a grand jury refused to indict the first bullshit charges, has changed another sentencing recommendation into the Flynn case and more still.
And you're cheering this on. Why the double standard Lyle? Why is a meeting between Clinton and Lynch evidence of massive corruption and should lead to jailings but banana republic levels of political control over the Trump Justice Department a good thing? This is only going to get worse too. America's institutions aren't standing up well to an increasingly authoritarian president. Nobody is stopping Trump from doing what he wants so he's going to continue the criminality. Of the twelve people who testified publicly in the House impeachment inquiry only three still have their jobs. It's only been a week since Trump was acquitted and since then he's retaliated against witnesses, set the DOJ after a bunch of political opponents, inserted himself into an accomplice's sentencing, attacked a Federal judge, today attacked a Federal juror and is now trying to get New York to drop various investigations into him to continue to get Federal funding.
And you're supporting all this. And you'll continue to support your leader as he becomes more and more authoritarian. In any country where there's a slide from liberal democracy into authoritarianism you always have a group of people round the leader and a chunk of the population who will click their heels and obey orders. It's as ugly as hell to watch it happen to America. It's not something I thought could happen this quickly either.
There you are, in stunned disbelief.....when will that light finally click on for you? When there's the first arrest maybe? Maybe.
What exactly do you mean by this Lyle?
So Michael Avenatti goes to prison.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EQ8ksRKU...g&name=900x900
You mean he's not going to be President? CNN and MSNBC will be SHOCKED to hear this....SHOCKED!!!Quote:
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Originally Posted by El KabongOooh ITALICS fancy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
1. Roger Stone was only found guilty of lying to Congress.
1A. Many a person has lied to Congress and not served a single day in prison
2. “I never in any way felt that Stone himself posed a direct physical threat to me or my dog,” ......who said that? Randy Credico, who is that? Oh that's the witness Stone is said to have "tampered" with
3. Robert Mueller hand picked these folks to run this case
4. The judge can sentence Stone to however long she wants and hell she'll probably add a few years just like she sent Manafort off to solitary.....Trump can still pardon Stone and he probably will.
The anomaly here is the severity of the punishment 7-9 for a nonviolent crime? 7-9 for a crime that is selectively prosecuted? All Trump said and all Barr DID was say 7-9 is too much and boom 4 resignations and immediate bellyaching from the lefties. Calls for yet another bite at the impeachment apple....maybe Trump can get impeached twice and even then he'd STILL win in November.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
There you are, in stunned disbelief.....when will that light finally click on for you? When there's the first arrest maybe? Maybe.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
I guess you'd know. I mean after all, you knew this was coming right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
Stone was found guilty of lying to congress, witness tampering and obstruction of justice. The Federal rulebook says people guilty of those crimes face seven to nine years which is what prosecutors were asking with Stone.
The judge did not put Manafort in solitary, the prison warder did. Manafort was in a private cell for his own safety with his own bathroom, computer and phone.
Barr stepped in and altered the decision of the line prosecutors in the case and gave a much reduced sentencing guideline. The four prosecutors involved all then resigned. Trump congratulated Barr for inserting himself into the case and recommending a much reduced prison sentence for Stone for crimes Stone committed to protect the president. Trump will eventually pardon Stone, or at least commute the sentence because pardoning Stone means he loses the right to claim the Fifth in any subsequent investigation and could be imprisoned until he tells the truth about what Trump knew about the Russian election interference.
I remember when Bill Clinton havig a brief public encounter on an airport runway with the Obama Attorney General was evidence that the whole Obama administration was a cesspool of corruption. You claimed that Lynch was going to jail for involving herself in the Hillary Clinton investigation even though she took no further part in it. Here we have the president congratulating the Attorney General for carrying out his wishes to see Stone given a much reduced sentence with possibly even no jail time. Trump is also openly pushing for investigations into various Demoratci/Obama people and his Attorney General has recently opened another investigation into Comey, is keeping one against McCabe alive even though a grand jury refused to indict the first bullshit charges, has changed another sentencing recommendation into the Flynn case and more still.
And you're cheering this on. Why the double standard Lyle? Why is a meeting between Clinton and Lynch evidence of massive corruption and should lead to jailings but banana republic levels of political control over the Trump Justice Department a good thing? This is only going to get worse too. America's institutions aren't standing up well to an increasingly authoritarian president. Nobody is stopping Trump from doing what he wants so he's going to continue the criminality. Of the twelve people who testified publicly in the House impeachment inquiry only three still have their jobs. It's only been a week since Trump was acquitted and since then he's retaliated against witnesses, set the DOJ after a bunch of political opponents, inserted himself into an accomplice's sentencing, attacked a Federal judge, today attacked a Federal juror and is now trying to get New York to drop various investigations into him to continue to get Federal funding.
And you're supporting all this. And you'll continue to support your leader as he becomes more and more authoritarian. In any country where there's a slide from liberal democracy into authoritarianism you always have a group of people round the leader and a chunk of the population who will click their heels and obey orders. It's as ugly as hell to watch it happen to America. It's not something I thought could happen this quickly either.
There you are, in stunned disbelief.....when will that light finally click on for you? When there's the first arrest maybe? Maybe.
What exactly do you mean by this Lyle?
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What about it Kirk? Roger Stone isn't going to spend the rest of his life in prison....Manafort might, but we'll see. AG Barr did the right thing because the sentencing was excessive, it's still completely unfair and Stone is being treated very poorly while other known liars are still free.
You're not going to accept anything I post, so why should I waste my time responding to your diatribe when all I'll tell you is "we'll see what happens"?
When the arrests start, perhaps you'll change your tune. Otherwise I guess continue on your victory lap...I would suggest it's a bit premature, but I suppose you know what you're doing.
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Stone isn't going to spend the rest of his life in prison because he's lying about his contacts with the Russians to protect Trump. Same with Manafort. They're both going to have their sentences commuted after the November election. Maybe even pardoned of Trump feels brave enough that there won't be subsequent investigations.
The sentence was not excessive. Once again thickhead, there's a Federal rule book that sets out guidelines governing sentencing and hte sentence was by the book. What happened here that was unprecedented was the Attorney General inserting himself into the case and changing the sentencing recommendation. That has never happened before. It's so unprecedented that over 2000 DOJ lawyers and Federal prosecutors have signed a statement asking the AG to resign. The Federal judges society are holding an emergency meeting over political interference in the justice system. Neither of these things have ever happened before, even during Watergate.
Some good information on all the various Trump/Barr corruption going on which you won't read because it isn't crazy conspiracy garbage on youtube, you fucking nut:
https://twitter.com/rgoodlaw/status/1228830979885850624
https://twitter.com/gtconway3d/statu...70804073115650
https://twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/stat...36875775877120
https://twitter.com/harrylitman/stat...13404395311106
https://twitter.com/emptywheel/statu...18571525517313
(Stone's lawyers agreeing the sentence length is correct)
https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1228485801736097797
And who exactly is going to be arrested here Lyle? The only people who've been charged with anything are all Trump people. This is where all the criminality is. It turns out the people who were investigating them were just top career law enforcement people investigating a bunch of fucking criminals. Here's yet another bullshit politicised investigation of one of the investigators that got nowhere. The only thing they could get McCabe on was a claim that he supposedly leaked information that was damaging to the Clinton campaign without authorisation. However he has proof otherwise and a grand jury agreed with him, refusing to indict him:
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/0...-mccabe-115251
Here's what the judge had to say about this case:
"The public is listening to what's going on, and I don't think people like the fact that you got somebody at the top basically trying to dictate whether somebody should be prosecuted ... I just think it's a banana republic when we go down that road," Walton told government lawyers behind closed doors in September. "I think there are a lot of people on the outside who perceive that there is undo inappropriate pressure being brought to bear ... It's just, it's very disturbing that we're in the mess that we're in in that regard.
"I just think the integrity of the process is being unduly undermined by inappropriate comments and actions on the part of people at the top of our government," added Walton, an appointee of President George W. Bush. "I think it's very unfortunate. And I think as a government and as a society we're going to pay a price at some point for this."
Trump and his people are just a bunch of fucking criminals Lyle.
By the way, was this you?
https://twitter.com/oneunderscore__/...18194978856960
So angry :shakehead:
"Hey a bunch of people on Twitter are saying these things"
Yes and? Those people are who? Thought leaders? Exercise critics? The political elite? :spit:
Kirk....take a seat....maybe eat one of those special cakes you bake for yourself. RELAX. When things actually start to happen you'll know it.
Don't get all angry at me, don't stress yourself out.....chiiiiilll....you're being very uptight.
"By the way, was this you?"
No....you think McCabe is all free and clear? .....OK.
Odd stone lied to cover up legal behavior. Sure he deserves something but the enhanced sentences are over the top. There are plenty of people who lied to Congress during these investigations, why does stone get nailed and not comey or any of those idiots. Does anyone recall Meuller lied to congress under the W regime. How about schiff and all his lies? Lying to Congress is a national pastime to Congress itself. The whole thing is joke. Kirk still barking up the Russia tree.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill...dard-for%3famp
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Seriously you keep bouncing back this anger accusation because it is your general resting state, if your posting here is any indication of your demeanor. I honestly don't read any anger into Kirk's post at all. It is almost like you are trying to deflect from the Elephant in the room and are avoiding debating anything of substance at all.
And yet you read it into all of my posts. Why what are the odds of that?Quote:
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Originally Posted by El KabongAnd yet you read it into all of my posts. Why what are the odds of that?Quote:
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I don't have to read or infer it in your posts, the content itself is just one big howl. Middle fingers, exclamation marks, gloating condescension, complete dismissal of anything that questions the crap you are fed from your far right corporate globalist/populist propaganda titty.
Kabong u need to adjust you posts for beanz approval.Quote:
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Originally Posted by El KabongAnd yet you read it into all of my posts. Why what are the odds of that?Quote:
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I don't have to read or infer it in your posts, the content itself is just one big howl. Middle fingers, exclamation marks, gloating condescension, complete dismissal of anything that questions the crap you are fed from your far right corporate globalist/populist propaganda titty.
See we had a little Pardon-palooza today. Helluva shat list of convicted criminals Trump rolled out to speak highly of and make excuses for today. White collar criminals and corrupt politicians step right up and rest easy, looks like it's all going to be ok. This is a power play based on emotion and random TV viewing and who has the ear. Respectfully anyone still chanting 'drain the swamp' and actually falling for that con is a dang fool.
I really don’t see a big deal with these pardons. We pretty much knew he was going to do it for blogov however you spell his name. Kerik, another who’s name I may have butchered I think that was fine. Milken, inside trading I’d do that myself if I could. What a total of 11 people in this round. NYT had an article how this was earth shattering but I think things are going to be alright.
I've yet to find a way to post where he doesn't attack me personally. I mean hell in the other thread he's posting on my religious beliefs and mocking them, he's called me all the "ists" and accused me of all the "isms" and I'm of the belief there's no pleasing the guy. If I leave the forum altogether he'll still keep at me, if I post and avoid him he's still got my name in his mouth, if I attempt to have any sort of discussion at all with him he pins his ears back and just attacks.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrusKabong u need to adjust you posts for beanz approval.Quote:
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Originally Posted by El KabongAnd yet you read it into all of my posts. Why what are the odds of that?Quote:
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I don't have to read or infer it in your posts, the content itself is just one big howl. Middle fingers, exclamation marks, gloating condescension, complete dismissal of anything that questions the crap you are fed from your far right corporate globalist/populist propaganda titty.
I take time to wish him well and he responds with bullshit as well.
No pleasing him at all unless I completely agree with everything he says and even then he's going to treat me as an adversary.
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Ya. There's zero chance it might be all about "Presidential nose-thumbing" at the opposition for all the trouble they've caused.
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It's a bunch of people on twitter posting facts and evidence Lyle. Things you have no relationship with.
Here's some more facts and evidence posted on twitter:
Breaking, at pre-trial hearing for Julian Assange a court has heard that he will be calling a witness who will allege he was offered a pardon by the US government, if he would say Russia was not involved in the leak of DNC documents during the 2006 election.
https://twitter.com/jamesdoleman/sta...64682700443648
It's just an endless list of banana republic criminality. And you're seriously expecting these fucking criminals to eventually get vindicated?
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Originally Posted by El KabongAnd yet you read it into all of my posts. Why what are the odds of that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
I don't have to read or infer it in your posts, the content itself is just one big howl. Middle fingers, exclamation marks, gloating condescension, complete dismissal of anything that questions the crap you are fed from your far right corporate globalist/populist propaganda titty.
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Maybe when I'm calling him a nut or a thickhead he thinks I'm angry instead of laughing at him. One of us is laughing at the other one, the other one is full of anger and vitriol at a bunch of top career law enforcement/public servants who are all TRAITORS WHO ARE GOING TO BE ARRESTED AND TAKEN TO GITMO AND HANGED IN PUBLIC and I know this to be true because a bunch of crazy people on the internet are saying it.
It's just a matter of time until the arrests start. When they don't start the anger in some of these people is going to come out in unpleasant ways. Some innocent people are going to end up hurt or worse at the hands of a bunch of furious nutcases boiling with anger because they're loony enough to believe internet conspiracy theories.
With these pardons I'm beginning to question whether Trump really is an anti corruption crusader after all.Quote:
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Oh so you're admitting that you're not ANGRY you're just being an asshole. OK, that's fine.Quote:
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What's is the "conspiracy" part of all of this? Who is "conspiring"?
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What's is the "conspiracy" part of all of this? Who is "conspiring"?
How would you describe the Q anon thing then Lyle? I think most people would use "conspiracy theory" to describe it. Maybe there's a better term?
Well I'd say it's an alternative source for information regarding current events specifically those centering on Donald Trump's presidency.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
"Conspiracy" implies secrecy, hidden, unknown....it's posted on a public forum, easily accessed as well. "Theory"...it's not a theory, there's nothing to do with theories with Q. Q deals in presenting information that is at the very limit of legally available and provides that to the forum.
So conspiracy theory is a misnomer in regards to it, but feel free to carry on as usual.
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Originally Posted by El KabongWell I'd say it's an alternative source for information regarding current events specifically those centering on Donald Trump's presidency.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
"Conspiracy" implies secrecy, hidden, unknown....it's posted on a public forum, easily accessed as well. "Theory"...it's not a theory, there's nothing to do with theories with Q. Q deals in presenting information that is at the very limit of legally available and provides that to the forum.
So conspiracy theory is a misnomer in regards to it, but feel free to carry on as usual.
It's some scammers propagating fucking loony conspiracy theories on an anime porn messageboard with a much larger bunch of nutters who believe it.
Donald Trump’s:
Campaign chair: felon
Deputy campaign chair: felon
Foreign policy adviser: felon
Personal lawyer: felon
National security adviser: felon
Longtime political adviser: felon
Judge sums up case thusly: "He was not prosecuted for standing up for the president; he was prosecuted for covering up for the president." https://twitter.com/rachelweinerwp/s...42859557842944