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Wonder Woman is a lesbian and is trying to keep the peace between all.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
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Originally Posted by Master
Batman is a USSR version who hates Superman for his love of Stalin and the oppressive regime.
Lex is with Lois Lane and a super genius good guy who goes on to the President after the assassination of JFK.
Sounds like a very neat premise.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterWonder Woman is a lesbian and is trying to keep the peace between all.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongInterestingQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
Batman is a USSR version who hates Superman for his love of Stalin and the oppressive regime.
Lex is with Lois Lane and a super genius good guy who goes on to the President after the assassination of JFK.
Batman is sadly a knockoff character. The Shadow is who he's 100% based off of.
Superman suffers from the same problem the Greek hero Diomedes did. He's too powerful to make interesting. He's never truly in peril and that isn't relatable.
On occasion Superman can be ok, but most times his whole "My power is all the powers" gets stale.
Not to piss all over the characters, just there's a way to tell a story around those concepts (for Superman). Batman is a fun character and has good villain opposition. Lex Luthor as a concept is a good idea for a bad guy but hardly a match for Superman.
That sounds cool. I like the concept but I can’t watch the animated stuff. I like alternative takes on history. THere was a book and movie that was written if Nazi Germany had one the war. The US stayed out of the war but it was a tense post war relationship. Hitler had been able to hide what he did with the Jews and dissidents. I think it was Kennedy who was in Germany to be the first US president to meet Hitler and at the last minute a dossier was obtained showing what Hitler had done. The book was called the father land the movie may have had been the same. Alternate take on history books and movies can be cool. I’d like to see or read one on the russians rushing the blockade of Cuba during that crisis.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongSounds like a very neat premise.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterWonder Woman is a lesbian and is trying to keep the peace between all.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongInterestingQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
Batman is a USSR version who hates Superman for his love of Stalin and the oppressive regime.
Lex is with Lois Lane and a super genius good guy who goes on to the President after the assassination of JFK.
Batman is sadly a knockoff character. The Shadow is who he's 100% based off of.
Superman suffers from the same problem the Greek hero Diomedes did. He's too powerful to make interesting. He's never truly in peril and that isn't relatable.
On occasion Superman can be ok, but most times his whole "My power is all the powers" gets stale.
Isn't there some HBO show that re-imagines America if Charles Lindbergh won the Presidency and was a Nazi which is kinda odd. I mean I know Lindbergh was more of an America First guy, can't speak to his other political views. I may have to check out some sort of biography on that dude. I know he was a pilot obviously, I know his kid got kidnapped and I believe murdered, but there's not much else I know about him. I like thought experiments like that as you were saying walrus. There was some mockumentary about if the Confederacy won the Civil War which I haven't seen anything but the trailer for and judging by that the writer or director both needed some history lessons. I've heard about 'The Man in The High Castle', haven't seen it yet though.
Should be wrapping up Deadwood soon....only 3 seasons and a movie. It's a great damn show.
Yeh it was a real screw job and timely. I ran across it on Amazon prime for a few bucks. I seldom watch full 'new' movies in one setting though so their limit of '30'+ hrs to view them sucks.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrusSpics who is playing the Richard Jewel story? That was directed by Eastwood wasn’t it. I remember seeing trailers for that and I really wanted to see it but I completely forgot until you just mentioned it. Damn that dude got fucked over. I read several articles and interviews about and with him, always felt for the guy. Too bad he isn’t around to see the movie.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
There was another book by Philip Rothman about Lindbergh running for president and befriending Hitler. I have read several things about him being a staunch Hitler supporter. I would need to look further into it as I don’t know what is hand me down gossip and what is real but Lindbergh did support Hitler at the start, of course so did Ford and a number of US companies. Remember though at one point Churchill referred to Hitler as a great leader so it could have been during that time periodQuote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
bain is more relatable because he came from nothing, not like batman who was giving everythingQuote:
Originally Posted by El KabongSounds like a very neat premise.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterWonder Woman is a lesbian and is trying to keep the peace between all.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongInterestingQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
Batman is a USSR version who hates Superman for his love of Stalin and the oppressive regime.
Lex is with Lois Lane and a super genius good guy who goes on to the President after the assassination of JFK.
Batman is sadly a knockoff character. The Shadow is who he's 100% based off of.
Superman suffers from the same problem the Greek hero Diomedes did. He's too powerful to make interesting. He's never truly in peril and that isn't relatable.
On occasion Superman can be ok, but most times his whole "My power is all the powers" gets stale.
True he was given everything but at least he decided to go out and risk it all trying to help people. If I inherited all that I wouldn’t want to risk my well being so frequently. I’d be buying jets and cars and watches and banging models and sit ringside at anyfight, fuck yeah I’d be rollinQuote:
Originally Posted by TICbain is more relatable because he came from nothing, not like batman who was giving everythingQuote:
Originally Posted by El KabongSounds like a very neat premise.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterWonder Woman is a lesbian and is trying to keep the peace between all.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongInterestingQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
Batman is a USSR version who hates Superman for his love of Stalin and the oppressive regime.
Lex is with Lois Lane and a super genius good guy who goes on to the President after the assassination of JFK.
Batman is sadly a knockoff character. The Shadow is who he's 100% based off of.
Superman suffers from the same problem the Greek hero Diomedes did. He's too powerful to make interesting. He's never truly in peril and that isn't relatable.
On occasion Superman can be ok, but most times his whole "My power is all the powers" gets stale.
That is what Tony Stark, Iron Man, did until he became an alcoholic but changed his ways.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrusTrue he was given everything but at least he decided to go out and risk it all trying to help people. If I inherited all that I wouldn’t want to risk my well being so frequently. I’d be buying jets and cars and watches and banging models and sit ringside at anyfight, fuck yeah I’d be rollinQuote:
Originally Posted by TICbain is more relatable because he came from nothing, not like batman who was giving everythingQuote:
Originally Posted by El KabongSounds like a very neat premise.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterWonder Woman is a lesbian and is trying to keep the peace between all.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongInterestingQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
Batman is a USSR version who hates Superman for his love of Stalin and the oppressive regime.
Lex is with Lois Lane and a super genius good guy who goes on to the President after the assassination of JFK.
Batman is sadly a knockoff character. The Shadow is who he's 100% based off of.
Superman suffers from the same problem the Greek hero Diomedes did. He's too powerful to make interesting. He's never truly in peril and that isn't relatable.
On occasion Superman can be ok, but most times his whole "My power is all the powers" gets stale.
Wasn't there a comic where Tony Stark was an alcoholic Vietnam Vet with PTSD? Comics USED to actually be pretty decent, but now they are solely the realm of people of a certain political persuasion and I think that's pretty shitty. People of all stripes should be not only able to produce comics but encouraged to! It would create I think a better product all around. You'd have true differences in characters and perhaps given the differences then when there was a special "Batman vs Superman" or some such combination you've got different writers with different visions of their characters and if they're able to trust each other as writers and work with each other then I think that would make for better plots, character development, and the like. Not everyone gets along or wants to, being placed in a situation where they HAVE to in order to achieve their goals, THAT is something new and different and would be nice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
So anyway, I finished watching 'Waco' and I've got to say I was just dumbstruck by the storytelling. I mean that was.....wow...they really made the ATF and FBI look like criminals and they made Koresh seem affable albeit suffering delusions of grandeur. I mean the Obama's run Netflix yeah? How/why would they have this be a movie on their platform? It was a well done series, well acted, and although it kinda gives Janet Reno a pass (and had her played by a much better looking actress than they should have). Crazy stuff, decent show, hard to watch though with the kids being killed and all.
Didn’t you find that a little odd? The way koresh was portrayed. In Netflix defense they didn’t make it it was a network series that had played a few years back to little fanfare but is now a hit once it hit NetflixQuote:
Originally Posted by El KabongWasn't there a comic where Tony Stark was an alcoholic Vietnam Vet with PTSD? Comics USED to actually be pretty decent, but now they are solely the realm of people of a certain political persuasion and I think that's pretty shitty. People of all stripes should be not only able to produce comics but encouraged to! It would create I think a better product all around. You'd have true differences in characters and perhaps given the differences then when there was a special "Batman vs Superman" or some such combination you've got different writers with different visions of their characters and if they're able to trust each other as writers and work with each other then I think that would make for better plots, character development, and the like. Not everyone gets along or wants to, being placed in a situation where they HAVE to in order to achieve their goals, THAT is something new and different and would be nice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
So anyway, I finished watching 'Waco' and I've got to say I was just dumbstruck by the storytelling. I mean that was.....wow...they really made the ATF and FBI look like criminals and they made Koresh seem affable albeit suffering delusions of grandeur. I mean the Obama's run Netflix yeah? How/why would they have this be a movie on their platform? It was a well done series, well acted, and although it kinda gives Janet Reno a pass (and had her played by a much better looking actress than they should have). Crazy stuff, decent show, hard to watch though with the kids being killed and all.
Yes, the original 60's comic Tony was in either the Korean or Vietnam war. In the film it was Afghanistan.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongWasn't there a comic where Tony Stark was an alcoholic Vietnam Vet with PTSD? Comics USED to actually be pretty decent, but now they are solely the realm of people of a certain political persuasion and I think that's pretty shitty. People of all stripes should be not only able to produce comics but encouraged to! It would create I think a better product all around. You'd have true differences in characters and perhaps given the differences then when there was a special "Batman vs Superman" or some such combination you've got different writers with different visions of their characters and if they're able to trust each other as writers and work with each other then I think that would make for better plots, character development, and the like. Not everyone gets along or wants to, being placed in a situation where they HAVE to in order to achieve their goals, THAT is something new and different and would be nice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
There are many different writers that take on the franchise's and take them into another direction. Marvel comics are not so possessive of their characters. Read an Spiderman born in 1947 and aging accordingly, he watched Gwen Stacy die, marry MJ and have 2 children all the way to the present where he meet's Miles Morales. Very good read.
There is another one currently where MJ dies after having a baby boy and 15 years later his child is getting his spider powers but is estranged with his dad. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4BpMsAIEQc
I find it SUPER odd to be honest. I wonder the reasoning behind it more than anything. I mean it ain't like Hollywood types would really seek to rally behind the likes of Koresh right? I mean I don't agree with a lot of the Branch Davidian stuff (as one would expect I wouldn't agree with it), but Hollywood TYPICALLY glorifies the FBI/ATF unless there are certain criteria met. Koresh wouldn't be the typical Hollywood backed "victim" and you have to wonder why they showed him as such.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrus
Really odd considering the Obama's ties to Netflix.
I was very disappointed to see Netflix hire the obamas. I was a long term stock holder and I didn’t want the service to become a platform for any political party. I’m fine with documentaries with political swing as long as they aren’t all one way. There are a number of obama era political peoples on Netflix board or in other capacities. Netflix is a brilliant company, I hope they don’t limit themselves to a particular crowd. I can see the stock hitting 500 this year the wuhan virus helped their bottom line and once you have Netflix you always go backQuote:
Originally Posted by El KabongI find it SUPER odd to be honest. I wonder the reasoning behind it more than anything. I mean it ain't like Hollywood types would really seek to rally behind the likes of Koresh right? I mean I don't agree with a lot of the Branch Davidian stuff (as one would expect I wouldn't agree with it), but Hollywood TYPICALLY glorifies the FBI/ATF unless there are certain criteria met. Koresh wouldn't be the typical Hollywood backed "victim" and you have to wonder why they showed him as such.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrus
Really odd considering the Obama's ties to Netflix.
theres even a tale of two cities quote in dark knight risesQuote:
Originally Posted by walrusTrue he was given everything but at least he decided to go out and risk it all trying to help people. If I inherited all that I wouldn’t want to risk my well being so frequently. I’d be buying jets and cars and watches and banging models and sit ringside at anyfight, fuck yeah I’d be rollinQuote:
Originally Posted by TICbain is more relatable because he came from nothing, not like batman who was giving everythingQuote:
Originally Posted by El KabongSounds like a very neat premise.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterWonder Woman is a lesbian and is trying to keep the peace between all.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongInterestingQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
Batman is a USSR version who hates Superman for his love of Stalin and the oppressive regime.
Lex is with Lois Lane and a super genius good guy who goes on to the President after the assassination of JFK.
Batman is sadly a knockoff character. The Shadow is who he's 100% based off of.
Superman suffers from the same problem the Greek hero Diomedes did. He's too powerful to make interesting. He's never truly in peril and that isn't relatable.
On occasion Superman can be ok, but most times his whole "My power is all the powers" gets stale.
Extraction - cracking action thriller that rips off lots of classic action films but in a good way. It's Terminator II, Man On Fire, Bourne but woven together with realistic, likable characters and a slick plot. Thor is perfect as a "damaged" kick-arse cunt.
I watched extraction only because you guys recommended it. Normally I can’t take the fake war shit but it was done well enough that I tolerated it. It was what I expected but the lead actor made it decent. So he was Thor? I knew he looked familiar
Made in 1939 stars Henry Fonda one of my favorites, I’m into the old stuff I know it’s not for everyone.
https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0031252/r...?ref_=m_tt_urv
Finally saw The Joker. I know I’m a year or more behind. It was well acted, well put together but I didn’t see it as controversial as I had expected. It’s a crazy movie no doubt but I expected to be shocked by the content.
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@El Kabong I’m watching that series on HBO about Charles Lindbergh becoming president during hitlers time. I think you or spics brought it up when I mentioned a book I was reading and you guys were correct it is based on the book I read. It seems like a decent series but doesn’t stay true to the book. I got free hbo for 3 months they have some decent things plus all the old boxing they used to show.
'Plot Against America' is the series right?Quote:
Originally Posted by walrus
Yeah I detailed the stuff I learned in the biography of him, but someone found it triggering when I was explaining the nuance and naivety in Lindbergh's thinking. I'd provide more information having now finished the book, but I don't want to cause any trouble for myself knowing how one specific poster takes my words.
Ya, I forgot the name of the series and your explanation makes perfect sense. I must say I’m only two episodes in it seems like a well done seriesQuote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong'Plot Against America' is the series right?Quote:
Originally Posted by walrus
Yeah I detailed the stuff I learned in the biography of him, but someone found it triggering when I was explaining the nuance and naivety in Lindbergh's thinking. I'd provide more information having now finished the book, but I don't want to cause any trouble for myself knowing how one specific poster takes my words.
At the very least it's an interesting idea for a hypothetical history. I read about the guy just because I wanted to know about more than the 1927 Atlantic Flight and his child being kidnapped/murdered. There was a whole hell of a lot to the man and it was surprising in several ways, but again I hesitate to even attempt to explain given the insane reactions some people seem to have to my posts.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrus
I'd be interested to see the show even though I'm fairly certain they'll make Lindy very evil. He might could have been under the right circumstances I think we're all capable of both incredible evil and amazing good but sometimes situations get the better of people.
I don't often watch films but finally got around to watching one the bluerays my Stepson bought us at Christmas. Based on a Neil Gaiman story 'How to talk to girls at parties' is set in the UK in the late 70s during the birth of Punk and features aliens.
We loved it, very funny, brilliantly constructed.
Started watching 1917 yesterday. Prime vid really plays shady with the rental option. I didn't realize they only give you 36 hrs to finish a rental once you pay. That's bogus and no better than old Blockbuster vids. But at least you could keep those and pay massive late fees :p
What do u think so far is it very well done?Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
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Friday the 13th 3D
It looks it right off but I'm only to the point where they start crossing no mans land. The set work and costuming are very good. Had no idea that that one guy was 'Tommen' from Game of Thrones. Looks completely different now.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrusWhat do u think so far is it very well done?Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
funhouse
Bohemian Rhapsody - Everyone knows what it's about. I thought it was great. The Live Aid stuff was brilliant. The whole cast were great. Had no idea Mike Myers was Ray Foster and Adam Lambert was the trucker.
Watched the Netflix program with Queen and Adam Lambert after. That was good too. I know some people have issues with it, someone else 'being Freddie' but Lambert is an amazing vocalist.
I think the movie would have been better if Sasha Cohen Barron or whatever his name is played the part he wanted to show the real Freddie Prince.Quote:
Originally Posted by Memphis
Yeah I read that. He was on board for several years with the film but then it all went a bit sour. His take on things was that they wanted to have Freddie die half way through the film then show how the band moved on, which would have been wrong. It ending the way it did was perfect, the live aid performance was something else. From the bands perspective I guess they've got a brand to protect and didn't want it to be too warts and all. They thought Cohen wasn't serious enough. Given his back catalogue you could see their point of view.
Malik was brilliant. I know he didn't sing much but he did become Freddie really well.
My Mrs is a massive Queen fan and asked me if I'd go and watch them with Adam Lambert. Initially I said no, not the same blah blah. I can barely cope when a second actor comes in to play a lead in a second film let alone someone else try to be Freddie Mercury. Now I would though.
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Originally Posted by Memphis
Upwards of £190 (each) for a decent view and that's just at a small venue like Londons O2.
Insane money that.
Just watched 'The Death of Stalin' very funny stuff.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVzgH2AsHUQ
quite humorous.
Terminator 2. Despite Edward Furlong being an annoying little cunt and doing his best to ruin every scene. It's just awesome ain't it. Even the bits that are naff are brilliant. Arnie not Arnie jumping a hog off of a wall. Brilliant.
The latest Terminator 6 carries on from Terminator 2 and does have some good action scenes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Memphis
I think I stopped at 2. I vaguely remember the blonde woman in purple which I think is 3? So I reckon I've seen some of it, maybe clips. Going to stick with it to finish them off.