Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds : Pacquiao Morales III
To Morales,I want to say a fat thankyou and I sincerely HOPE he hangs up his gloves. He has given me so many great memories,made me become a boxing fan,and whether you like him or not,he's a true legend who ALWAYS gives the fans something to talk about,multiple weight world champ but actually fought the best in each division,never ducked anyone and was involved in 2 great trilogies with 2 future hall of famers(yes Pac will be HOF imo). Good luck to him in whatever he decides to do next,hopefully he can train Valero or something to get better and beat Pac for him. ;D :'(
Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds : Pacquiao Morales III
And Pacquiao,credit to him. He is a true true warrior and deserves ALLLLL the praise he gets. Amazing heart,stamina,power in both fists,great jab,nice movement,head movement,focus,drive,determination this guy has it all. He can go on to become a TRUE great by having more fights like this one. He ducks no one and has fully earned my respect,in fact,I'd consider myself a (closet)fan :-[ That picture of Morales holding his arm up is.....priceless.....symbolic....1 warrior,true warrior....passing the torch over to another......
I think Pac has it in him to KTFO Guzman,MAB,Valero,etc etc so the sky is the limit for him.
Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds : Pacquiao Morales III
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Only two things came to my mind watching those three rounds..
Hagler...Hearns..
And.. when Morales layed on the canvas and let himself be counted out... I thought of Alexis Arguello also coming to the realization that.. he wasn't going to win. And, just as he acknowledged that he couldn't beat Pryor..Morales just showed that he knew..he couldn't beat Manny Pacquiao..
It's symbolic.. that one of the most prideful and one of the greatest of his generation..bowed out gracefully and admitted to himself, he had enough..
That whole instance..makes you love Erik Morales more, and all he stood for and what it came down to.
And Respect, how great Manny Pacquiao has become.
A bit like Kostya Tszyu hey Starr? ;D
*cough.. hypocrite.. cough
And unlike like Kostya Tszyu, Morales had a didn't rematch with everyone that beat him (except Raheem)
good point ;)
Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds : Pacquiao Morales III
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I don't know what to say.....First time I've been speechless here...Erik....it's over... :'(
I respect Manny but you do not know how bad I want someone to get revenge and it boils down to 2 guys, Edwin Valero and Humberto Soto(2 former Morales sparring partners). And if anyone thinks MAB can beat Pac,you are deluded. He couldn't live with the ULTRA 1 dimensional Pac of 3 years ago,how will he beat,this VASTLY improved fighter?! Right hand,counters,jabs,and the left PLUS bodywork= P4P number 1 for me. 2 wins over EM,1 over MAB,1 over Larios,draw with JMM, and RING magazine number 1.That's TRUE P4P stats,compare his CV to his competitors,it's far beter and he was the man at 122 too. I'm sorry but ac is P4P number 1,no doubt in my mind.
We'll see mate . Barrera isnt completely washed up like Morales is
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Originally Posted by Starr
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Only two things came to my mind watching those three rounds..
Hagler...Hearns..
And.. when Morales layed on the canvas and let himself be counted out... I thought of Alexis Arguello also coming to the realization that.. he wasn't going to win. And, just as he acknowledged that he couldn't beat Pryor..Morales just showed that he knew..he couldn't beat Manny Pacquiao..
It's symbolic.. that one of the most prideful and one of the greatest of his generation..bowed out gracefully and admitted to himself, he had enough..
That whole instance..makes you love Erik Morales more, and all he stood for and what it came down to.
And Respect, how great Manny Pacquiao has become.
A bit like Kostya Tszyu hey Starr? ;D
*cough.. hypocrite.. cough
And unlike like Kostya Tszyu, Morales had a didn't rematch with everyone that beat him (except Raheem)
good point ;)
Like I said,you can't compare Tszyu to Morales....Morales didn't quit on the stool....
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I don't know what to say.....First time I've been speechless here...Erik....it's over... :'(
I respect Manny but you do not know how bad I want someone to get revenge and it boils down to 2 guys, Edwin Valero and Humberto Soto(2 former Morales sparring partners). And if anyone thinks MAB can beat Pac,you are deluded. He couldn't live with the ULTRA 1 dimensional Pac of 3 years ago,how will he beat,this VASTLY improved fighter?! Right hand,counters,jabs,and the left PLUS bodywork= P4P number 1 for me. 2 wins over EM,1 over MAB,1 over Larios,draw with JMM, and RING magazine number 1.That's TRUE P4P stats,compare his CV to his competitors,it's far beter and he was the man at 122 too. I'm sorry but ac is P4P number 1,no doubt in my mind.
We'll see mate . Barrera isnt completely washed up like Morales is
Morales wasn't completely washed up.....He did beat Pac only last year and was winning their battle this year until he got stopped. Nothing I have seen from MAB suggests that he would win,especially the fact that he has such a hard time with Juarez the first time,and Juarez is no pacman....
Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds : Pacquiao Morales III
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6:30am?
Most people get out of bed at that time... what have you been doing all night?... :P
Sorry Adam, but I have no idea where you get your definition of most people, but I get up at the last possible moment that will allow me to have a shower and still get to work just about on time, so about 8.50am, and anyone getting up that time of the morning either work shifts or have young kids.
8:50... how the hell do you get up, eat, shit, get dressed and get to work in 10 minutes? ;D
Is it one of those comedy things where you run down the street half dressed still brushing your teeth? :P
didn't work shifts but I worked 7:30 till 4 full time so I always got up at 6:30.
Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds : Pacquiao Morales III
just woke up had a look on box rec ko in 3 rd round unbelieveable did anyone really think it would be over that quickly ??
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Morales wasn't completely washed up.....He did beat Pac only last year and was winning their battle this year until he got stopped. Nothing I have seen from MAB suggests that he would win,especially the fact that he has such a hard time with Juarez the first time,and Juarez is no pacman....
. . . and Barrera is no Morales . No way will he fold like a piece of paper, pulling a no mas in 3 rounds . Neither will he adopt suicidal tactics
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Morales wasn't completely washed up.....He did beat Pac only last year and was winning their battle this year until he got stopped. Nothing I have seen from MAB suggests that he would win,especially the fact that he has such a hard time with Juarez the first time,and Juarez is no pacman....
. . . and Barrera is no Morales . No way will he fold like a piece of paper, pulling a no mas in 3 rounds . Neither will he adopt suicidal tactics
he didnt do no mas he was getting pounded trying to fight back like brave warrior but that last punch sent him about 4 foot across the ring if it would of gone on morales could of got brain damage he was taking alot of shots and he has already been in enough wars already
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Morales wasn't completely washed up.....He did beat Pac only last year and was winning their battle this year until he got stopped. Nothing I have seen from MAB suggests that he would win,especially the fact that he has such a hard time with Juarez the first time,and Juarez is no pacman....
. . . and Barrera is no Morales . No way will he fold like a piece of paper, pulling a no mas in 3 rounds . Neither will he adopt suicidal tactics
he didnt do no mas he was getting pounded trying to fight back like brave warrior but that last punch sent him about 4 foot across the ring if it would of gone on morales could of got brain damage he was taking alot of shots and he has already been in enough wars already
I think ICE COLD answered that one fairly well,CC in 24. And you're right,MAB is no Morales,he hasn't given Pac a rematch after what 3 years?! He knew Manny would sent him into retirement which is why he chose not to fight him and whether he actually will eventually fight him is up for debate especially with this legal wrangle over Pacquiao between Arum and Oscar.
Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds : Pacquiao Morales III
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Morales wasn't completely washed up.....He did beat Pac only last year and was winning their battle this year until he got stopped. Nothing I have seen from MAB suggests that he would win,especially the fact that he has such a hard time with Juarez the first time,and Juarez is no pacman....
. . . and Barrera is no Morales . No way will he fold like a piece of paper, pulling a no mas in 3 rounds . Neither will he adopt suicidal tactics
he didnt do no mas he was getting pounded trying to fight back like brave warrior but that last punch sent him about 4 foot across the ring if it would of gone on morales could of got brain damage he was taking alot of shots and he has already been in enough wars already
I think ICE COLD answered that one fairly well,CC in 24. And you're right,MAB is no Morales,he hasn't given Pac a rematch after what 3 years?! He knew Manny would sent him into retirement which is why he chose not to fight him and whether he actually will eventually fight him is up for debate especially with this legal wrangle over Pacquiao between Arum and Oscar.
Well Imo the warrior spirit in Morales is gone . He sat out teh count shaking his head in just 3 rounds . He reminded me of Benn against Collins . Once the heart has gone , he may aswel retire . Barreras warrior spirit will never be extinguished . I cant imagine him going down like that but then again I could never imagine that happening to Morales . With 4 out of 5 losses its clear he isnt the fighter he was cuz he beat Pac not too long ago . This time though he was just thrown to the wolves
Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds : Pacquiao Morales III
First off well done Wacko CC you done a great job concidering the connection problems last night we were getting hit bigtime from google news and google for this fight NO FIGHTER CRASHES SERVERS BETTER THAN MANNY PAC 8)
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just woke up had a look on box rec ko in 3 rd round unbelieveable did anyone really think it would be over that quickly ??
yeah ;)
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OK kicked out the guests ;)
Manny Pac via ko and sooner than he did it the last time IMO
take nothing away from Morales he has been one of the best and prob the most underated Champions of his time but that guy has long gone and im not sure who this half starved guy at the weigh in was :(
i picked rd 7 but aint supprised at all... reading back on Hairdoos post i think the point he was making was KT knew his time was up and got out of the game... good to see Morales do the same 8)
Morales can look back at what he has achived in this sport and retire a happy man A TRUE WARRIOR take note Mayweather of the sport thank you for the great entertaining fights you have provided me as a boxing fan over the years... even if i was always rooting for the other guy you were still one of the best p4p fighters of your time an have won this fans respect.
YOU WILL BE MISSED 8)
always been a fan of Manny Pac win or lose the guy comes to fight and will fight anyone hes a breath of fresh air to the sport 8)
Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds : Pacquiao Morales III
CC for the hard work Wacko...it seems like Pacquiao's dominance in the odds were matched in the ring, and that Morales' career is nigh on over after this huge loss for him. I thought about getting up in the middle of the night to check in, but in the end i had to get up at 8.30am anyway, so i needed the sleep. Shame it wasn't more competitive especially for the Morales fans, but Pacquiao seems to have shown he's the best in the division by far, and will be for a while.
What have we got coming up next week, or is it wifey time mate?
Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds : Pacquiao Morales III
WOW just watched it...
Morales showed great heart with his attack on Pacquiao after his first knock down.
Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds : Pacquiao Morales III
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Well Imo the warrior spirit in Morales is gone . He sat out teh count shaking his head in just 3 rounds . He reminded me of Benn against Collins . Once the heart has gone , he may aswel retire . Barreras warrior spirit will never be extinguished . I cant imagine him going down like that but then again I could never imagine that happening to Morales . With 4 out of 5 losses its clear he isnt the fighter he was cuz he beat Pac not too long ago . This time though he was just thrown to the wolves
I think you might have missed on thing though...Pac has definently improved. He got hit with less punches last night...but when pressed this time...unlike the other 2 fights...he pressed back.
He took Erick's biggest weapon & used it against him. He beat Erik at his own game.
Respect to Morales. He's a great warrior...& if anyone wants to say that that is an overused word today...find me other fighters that fight the way that Manny & Erik do. There aint many.
Morales thought that he was in shape for the battle & he was...he wasn't thrown to the wolves...he was thrown in with a warrior, who by Morales's own admission, was just better than him. For that I respect Morales. He admitted to the fact that he had been beaten & that is that.
I'm a Morales fan through & through...facts are facts. Pacquiao is the beat 130lb fighter on the planet. Face it...he just is. Morales has 5 losses out of 53 fights. Morales could still beat top 10 fighters excluding Pac & Marquez. He lost to a boxer & he lost to another GOAT, Marco Antonio Barrera.
Nothing wrong with that. Saying "With 4 out of 5 losses its clear he isnt the fighter he was cuz he beat Pac not too long ago" could be as wrong as you think that it is right.
In all actuallity only 2 men have beaten him...MAB & Pac. Zaheer was a boxer & a mover...Morales is not dead...he's just hit the twilight of his career.
He should still be respected in my opinion.