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Originally Posted by luvfightgame
I just can't help but think that PBF is due for his bad day.  I can't see him winning any way other than a track meet where he runs the whole fight.
I am astounded that some are picking PBF by ko??????????????????????
That is ridiculous.  And PBF is fast, but he's not superhuman fast.  The exaggerations getting out of hand.  Especially PBF saying he's going to "ice" ODH???? 
Come on dude, grow up. 
I suggest you take a closer look at Floyd and how he is looking at a Heavier weight.. Physique wise, arms and shoulders he looks spectacular. Not that its a bodybuilding contest and the way you look isint exactly indicative of how you will peform.... but no one can look at the footage of his training and say they can tell he has slowed down because of the weight.... So its reasonable to conclude that if he is just as fast and now stronger, he will have some extra sting on his punches... Floyd is not a concussive puncher he gets the job done through an accumlative beating...
I'm changing my pic from Floyd UD to Floyd TKO late in the fight!!!!!!!
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I'd like to see Floyd bang to Oscar's body,consistently. Watching his training,he certainly seems to be doing alot of bodywork training and he REALLY unloads. That could slow Oscar down big time.
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I just think PBF is still out of his league in size and strength. He had real problems with Zab, strength wise Zab was the stronger guy. He just ran out of gas and couldn't use his advantages. ODH is not a rookie, and maybe he's tired a little in a couple of fights, he still made it through the fights and still won most of those fights.
I am interested to see how PBF responds when he does get hurt. To me that determines the fight. I think Zab hurt him a bit, and he just covered up. ODH is gonna land some solid punches cause it's a small ring.
PBF is at his natural walking around weight. He's been 150 for weeks now and that's how he's gonna be fight night. He hasn't bulked up, just hasn't cut weight. I don't see a difference. Still he's not gonna ko ODH.
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I really really disagree with people saying PBF had problems with Zab. Judah landed a few good shots in the early rounds,however Floyd was waiting on him,waiting to see what he had. This can be seen via Floyd's relatively low activity levels in that fight. As soon as he took the initiative,he was easily in control. He was hurting Zab to the body and reduced Zab silly hand movements.
Re: ODLH vs. PBF (24/7) *Let's Talk about it here* (Episodes Included)
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
I really really disagree with people saying PBF had problems with Zab. Judah landed a few good shots in the early rounds,however Floyd was waiting on him,waiting to see what he had. This can be seen via Floyd's relatively low activity levels in that fight. As soon as he took the initiative,he was easily in control. He was hurting Zab to the body and reduced Zab silly hand movements.
I don't think Zab won the first 4 rounds like many say. I think Zab hit PBF with some solid shots and gave him some trouble. I think physically Zab had the upper hand until about the 5th round. And I agree PBF dominated that fight, but he didn't stop him. Zab was exhausted and beat up, and PBF didn't take advantage of it. I don't see how he's gonna stop ODH like some are predicting.
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
I really really disagree with people saying PBF had problems with Zab. Judah landed a few good shots in the early rounds,however Floyd was waiting on him,waiting to see what he had. This can be seen via Floyd's relatively low activity levels in that fight. As soon as he took the initiative,he was easily in control. He was hurting Zab to the body and reduced Zab silly hand movements.
Exactly Floyd spent the 1st few rounds walking down Zab to feel him out and to adjust..... Then Floyd spent the rest of the fight walking him down and pulverising him him in the process.... Zab was extremely tentative 1/4 of the way into the fight because of the body beating he was taking not to mention the counters Floyd was dishing out...
Re: ODLH vs. PBF (24/7) *Let's Talk about it here* (Episodes Included)
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
Also when they showed Schaffer & ODLH talking about the ticket demand of the fight by celebritys and all that. (By the way ODLH has the same phone as I do in his office, I saw him on it and I was like WTF that looks like my phone and it was the phones sick man you can upload pictures & music to it so when someone calls you their pic appears and lets say their fav. song is 2 Pacs I get around you can upload it and that will be their ring tone 8) )
Anyway! I liked how he picked up is cell phone and started calling his friends the 1st one he called was Michael J. Fox (who like Freddy has parkinsons), he then called Matthe McCougnhey and then he calls George Lopez 8) George was also ringisde for ODLH vs. Mayorga....
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" At that moment i was about as mexican as i could be!, I think i had a chicken in one hand and a sandal in the other " Lol.. George Lopez
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I really really disagree with people saying PBF had problems with Zab. Judah landed a few good shots in the early rounds,however Floyd was waiting on him,waiting to see what he had. This can be seen via Floyd's relatively low activity levels in that fight. As soon as he took the initiative,he was easily in control. He was hurting Zab to the body and reduced Zab silly hand movements.
I don't think Zab won the first 4 rounds like many say.  I think Zab hit PBF with some solid shots and gave him some trouble.  I think physically Zab had the upper hand until about the 5th round.  And I agree PBF dominated that fight, but he didn't stop him. 
Zab was exhausted and beat up, and PBF didn't take advantage of it.  I don't see how he's gonna stop ODH like some are predicting.
Yep I agree!!!! Instead of being bent over after getting hit with a thunderous uppercut to the baby maker.. Floyd should have had his balls in one hand while he beat Zab with the other hand ::**
;D     Seriously your kidding me right???  Zab was for the taking at the end of the 10 th and barring a crazy circumstance he was well on his way to being TKO'D in the last 2 rounds ..... OH WAIT!!!!! There was a crazy circumstance ZAB STARTED A RIOT    ;)
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The weight and Freddy roach.
I guess I don't see the huge difference that Roach is going to make. No disrespect to Roach, he's a very good trainer. But it's not like Oscar has spent his whole career being trained by stiffs. He's worked with Gil Clancy, Steward, Floyd Sr.... those guys all know what they're doing.
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Oscar has had problems with conditioning and fighting all three minutes of all 12, that won't be a factor here.
Why would those things all of a sudden not be a factor here? Do we know for a fact that he's training harder or better for this fight than any of his previous fights?
I think Oscar is in great shape for this fight, but I don't see why his stamina will all of a sudden be better at age 34 than it was in his 20s.
I think roach's strong point is conditioning (just look at pacquiao)
Uh... look at James Toney.
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Originally Posted by dramaking
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Originally Posted by SweetPea
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The weight and Freddy roach.
I guess I don't see the huge difference that Roach is going to make. No disrespect to Roach, he's a very good trainer. But it's not like Oscar has spent his whole career being trained by stiffs. He's worked with Gil Clancy, Steward, Floyd Sr.... those guys all know what they're doing.
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Oscar has had problems with conditioning and fighting all three minutes of all 12, that won't be a factor here.
Why would those things all of a sudden not be a factor here? Do we know for a fact that he's training harder or better for this fight than any of his previous fights?
I think Oscar is in great shape for this fight, but I don't see why his stamina will all of a sudden be better at age 34 than it was in his 20s.
I think roach's strong point is conditioning (just look at pacquiao)
Uh... look at James Toney.
Its plain to see that Toney and roach have a strange relationship..He prepares james to fight..
You think theres any trainer out there that can get toney in shape better? ..Or in fact atall..
James is james and i wouldnt have him anyway..But his conditioning is no fault of anybody's but james toney's
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Originally Posted by shza
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Originally Posted by dramaking
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Originally Posted by dramaking
The weight and Freddy roach.
I guess I don't see the huge difference that Roach is going to make. No disrespect to Roach, he's a very good trainer. But it's not like Oscar has spent his whole career being trained by stiffs. He's worked with Gil Clancy, Steward, Floyd Sr.... those guys all know what they're doing.
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Oscar has had problems with conditioning and fighting all three minutes of all 12, that won't be a factor here.
Why would those things all of a sudden not be a factor here? Do we know for a fact that he's training harder or better for this fight than any of his previous fights?
I think Oscar is in great shape for this fight, but I don't see why his stamina will all of a sudden be better at age 34 than it was in his 20s.
I think roach's strong point is conditioning (just look at pacquiao)
Uh... look at James Toney.
Its plain to see that Toney and roach have a strange relationship..He prepares james to fight..
You think theres any trainer out there that can get toney in shape better? ..Or in fact atall..
James is james and i wouldnt have him anyway..But his conditioning is no fault of anybody's but james toney's
It was more a joke than anything. Someone said Roach's strength is his conditioning, and the image of Fattoney was the first thing to appear in my head. Agree that Toney's been around too long to be broken by a trainer. By the same token though, I don't credit Roach for Pacquiao's conditioning either--Pac is just an athletic freak--he looks like he's in phenomenal shape even when he's been out of the gym for months.
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Originally Posted by Tito_BHB
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Originally Posted by shza
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Originally Posted by SweetPea
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Originally Posted by dramaking
The weight and Freddy roach.
I guess I don't see the huge difference that Roach is going to make. No disrespect to Roach, he's a very good trainer. But it's not like Oscar has spent his whole career being trained by stiffs. He's worked with Gil Clancy, Steward, Floyd Sr.... those guys all know what they're doing.
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Oscar has had problems with conditioning and fighting all three minutes of all 12, that won't be a factor here.
Why would those things all of a sudden not be a factor here? Do we know for a fact that he's training harder or better for this fight than any of his previous fights?
I think Oscar is in great shape for this fight, but I don't see why his stamina will all of a sudden be better at age 34 than it was in his 20s.
I think roach's strong point is conditioning (just look at pacquiao)
Uh... look at James Toney.
Its plain to see that Toney and roach have a strange relationship..He prepares james to fight..
You think theres any trainer out there that can get toney in shape better? ..Or in fact atall..
James is james and i wouldnt have him anyway..But his conditioning is no fault of anybody's but james toney's
It was more a joke than anything. Someone said Roach's strength is his conditioning, and the image of Fattoney was the first thing to appear in my head. Agree that Toney's been around too long to be broken by a trainer. By the same token though, I don't credit Roach for Pacquiao's conditioning either--Pac is just an athletic freak--he looks like he's in phenomenal shape even when he's been out of the gym for months.
I Think roach is more to credit then most think for pac's shape etc..
I think roach knows just how to train a fighter and is just right for a guy like pac..
Pac seems to enjoy roach bieng his trainer..Theyr very friendly and pac's stil on top of his game..
Everyone wants to snap up pac but hes with roach so theres definately something about roach thats special!
Peace
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I really really disagree with people saying PBF had problems with Zab. Judah landed a few good shots in the early rounds,however Floyd was waiting on him,waiting to see what he had. This can be seen via Floyd's relatively low activity levels in that fight. As soon as he took the initiative,he was easily in control. He was hurting Zab to the body and reduced Zab silly hand movements.
I don't think Zab won the first 4 rounds like many say. I think Zab hit PBF with some solid shots and gave him some trouble. I think physically Zab had the upper hand until about the 5th round. And I agree PBF dominated that fight, but he didn't stop him.
Zab was exhausted and beat up, and PBF didn't take advantage of it. I don't see how he's gonna stop ODH like some are predicting.
Yep I agree!!!! Instead of being bent over after getting hit with a thunderous uppercut to the baby maker.. Floyd should have had his balls in one hand while he beat Zab with the other hand ::**
;D Seriously your kidding me right??? Zab was for the taking at the end of the 10 th and barring a crazy circumstance he was well on his way to being TKO'D in the last 2 rounds ..... OH WAIT!!!!! There was a crazy circumstance ZAB STARTED A RIOT ;)
Good point! And I agree, I felt Zab threw that shot to keep from getting ko'd. But, the last round, PBF wasn't really going for the kill. He was motioning Zab in rather than going after him. I still don't think PBF is the guy to ko ODH.
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interesting list of homiez oscar has: michael j fox, mattew mcconohay....... cant remember the other ones.
Re: ODLH vs. PBF (24/7) *Let's Talk about it here* (Episodes Included)
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I really really disagree with people saying PBF had problems with Zab. Judah landed a few good shots in the early rounds,however Floyd was waiting on him,waiting to see what he had. This can be seen via Floyd's relatively low activity levels in that fight. As soon as he took the initiative,he was easily in control. He was hurting Zab to the body and reduced Zab silly hand movements.
I don't think Zab won the first 4 rounds like many say. I think Zab hit PBF with some solid shots and gave him some trouble. I think physically Zab had the upper hand until about the 5th round. And I agree PBF dominated that fight, but he didn't stop him.
Zab was exhausted and beat up, and PBF didn't take advantage of it. I don't see how he's gonna stop ODH like some are predicting.
Yep I agree!!!! Instead of being bent over after getting hit with a thunderous uppercut to the baby maker.. Floyd should have had his balls in one hand while he beat Zab with the other hand ::**
;D Seriously your kidding me right??? Zab was for the taking at the end of the 10 th and barring a crazy circumstance he was well on his way to being TKO'D in the last 2 rounds ..... OH WAIT!!!!! There was a crazy circumstance ZAB STARTED A RIOT ;)
Good point! And I agree, I felt Zab threw that shot to keep from getting ko'd. But, the last round, PBF wasn't really going for the kill. He was motioning Zab in rather than going after him. I still don't think PBF is the guy to ko ODH.
We shall see ;) I urge you though to think about Floyd in Reyes gloves... He has lumped up and broken down quite a few with the Winnings style which are hand protectors, now you take the support and put it on the wrist instead and less in the Knucle and boom thats were the pop comes from
