Re: Duran : In My Era, Mayweather Would Have Been Ordinary
Yeah, to me it's all "golden age"-biased nonsense. It drives me nuts when guys come on here and accuse Floyd of ducking and dodging everyone. According to these people, Floyd never fought a real fighter in his life. Everyone was either overrated, passed their prime, too small, too big, too slow, ect ect. "If only they never got fucked by the ref", "If only he had thrown more punches", yadda yadda. There's always some excuse.
If you think Floyd has ducked and dodged opponents, name them and tell us when they should have fought? Are there people out there who SERIOUSLY believe Floyd should have fought Margarito instead of De La Hoya? And do you SERIOUSLY believe that any other champion, past or present, wouldn't have done the same?
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You are one pathetic Nazi have you ever done the Nazi salute during a K2 fight? You win Floyd sucks there you happy?
Hmmmm, K2, the Klitschko brothers' promotion.
The Nazis and Soviet Union fought
AGAINST each other in WWII.
The Klitschkos were born into the Soviet Union; Nazis are from Germany.
So, if one gave a Nazi salute to a Russian, he would be "one pathetic Nazi."
You have to think these things through.
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The garbage that you are saying about Floyd is a disgrace to boxing, you are so blinded by hate you can't see a clear ATG.
You've yet to produce 1 single quote of mine to back up your claims. I've called Floyd a great like 80 times in this one thread alone. All I've said in this thread is that Floyd hasn't fought and won't fight someone like Duran.....reason being is that the ONLY fighter close to Duran in Floyd's era has been Floyd and he can't very well fight himself can he?
That "racist" enough for you? :vd:
Yes it is because you blow K2 while doing it, like I said you are a hypocrite now I don't know the reason for your hypocrisy but I've seen your political views which are right wing so I can guess.
You're one dumb bastard
You are one pathetic Nazi have you ever done the Nazi salute during a K2 fight? You win Floyd sucks there you happy?
You haven't?
Leave it now and stick to the script like memphis/andre said.
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Yeah, to me it's all "golden age"-biased nonsense. It drives me nuts when guys come on here and accuse Floyd of ducking and dodging everyone. According to these people, Floyd never fought a real fighter in his life. Everyone was either overrated, passed their prime, too small, too big, too slow, ect ect. "If only they never got fucked by the ref", "If only he had thrown more punches", yadda yadda. There's always some excuse.
If you think Floyd has ducked and dodged opponents, name them and tell us when they should have fought? Are there people out there who SERIOUSLY believe Floyd should have fought Margarito instead of De La Hoya? And do you SERIOUSLY believe that any other champion, past or present, wouldn't have done the same?
There is no need to make up lies. It wasn't De La Hoya he fought in place of Margarito. It was Carlos Baldomir. Big difference in threat level there.
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There is no need to make up lies. It wasn't De La Hoya he fought in place of Margarito. It was Carlos Baldomir. Big difference in threat level there.
Regardless of how you or anyone else feel about Baldomir as a fighter, he was the #1 of the WW division at the time after upsetting Zab. He was the champion. Margarito had the lightly-regarded WBO WW strap.
Did anyone believe Baldomir was going to beat Floyd? I doubt it. But he was, at that time, the #1 in the division and presented Floyd with more reward than a fight with Margarito would have.
And of course Margarito was dethrowned by Paul Williams shortly after, making a Marg/Floyd showdown irrelelvant
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The garbage that you are saying about Floyd is a disgrace to boxing, you are so blinded by hate you can't see a clear ATG.
You've yet to produce 1 single quote of mine to back up your claims. I've called Floyd a great like 80 times in this one thread alone. All I've said in this thread is that Floyd hasn't fought and won't fight someone like Duran.....reason being is that the ONLY fighter close to Duran in Floyd's era has been Floyd and he can't very well fight himself can he?
That "racist" enough for you? :vd:
Yes it is because you blow K2 while doing it, like I said you are a hypocrite now I don't know the reason for your hypocrisy but I've seen your political views which are right wing so I can guess.
You're one dumb bastard
You are one pathetic Nazi have you ever done the Nazi salute during a K2 fight? You win Floyd sucks there you happy?
You haven't?
Leave it now and stick to the script like memphis/andre said.
Ok baby mod
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Yeah, to me it's all "golden age"-biased nonsense. It drives me nuts when guys come on here and accuse Floyd of ducking and dodging everyone. According to these people, Floyd never fought a real fighter in his life. Everyone was either overrated, passed their prime, too small, too big, too slow, ect ect. "If only they never got fucked by the ref", "If only he had thrown more punches", yadda yadda. There's always some excuse.
If you think Floyd has ducked and dodged opponents, name them and tell us when they should have fought? Are there people out there who SERIOUSLY believe Floyd should have fought Margarito instead of De La Hoya? And do you SERIOUSLY believe that any other champion, past or present, wouldn't have done the same?
There is no need to make up lies. It wasn't De La Hoya he fought in place of Margarito. It was Carlos Baldomir. Big difference in threat level there.
Im sure the fact that he had a belt, was offered a few million more and wasnt with top rank had nothing to do with it?
So your putting margarito up there now are we?
Margarito beats martinez earlier on in his career, beats cotto and he gets exposed for one of the worst crimes in boxing and has altered other boxers lives with deceit and you choose him out of everyone?...pleaase.
What has margarito actually achieved after the plaster being found out in the mosley fight...im waiting..
Stop trying to change the subject. Cuz those incidents played no part during that time period. The bottom line is a simple one. Margarito is/was and always had been a better fighter than Carlos Baldomir. Find me someone who truly believes otherwise and you found yourself a true moron.
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There is no need to make up lies. It wasn't De La Hoya he fought in place of Margarito. It was Carlos Baldomir. Big difference in threat level there.
Regardless of how you or anyone else feel about Baldomir as a fighter, he was the #1 of the WW division at the time after upsetting Zab. He was the champion. Margarito had the lightly-regarded WBO WW strap.
Did anyone believe Baldomir was going to beat Floyd? I doubt it. But he was, at that time, the #1 in the division and presented Floyd with more reward than a fight with Margarito would have.
And of course Margarito was dethrowned by Paul Williams shortly after, making a Marg/Floyd showdown irrelelvant
Margarito had been looking for him since 2006. The fight was there to be made. Him and Arum were still on speaking terms. He fights Zab Judah instead. The same Zab Judah who had just lost to Carlos Baldomir. How the fuck can anybody defend that selection?
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The key here is to not use revisionist history, before the Mosley fight nobody knew or even thought to ask if Margarito had loaded his gloves. He had just beaten Miguel Cotto who was undefeated and looking for a shot at Floyd just as much as anyone else at 147 in that time period.
Floyd IS a great fighter, but there are questions about why he chose to fight who he did when he did and at the weight class he did. And those questions are there for ANY fighter but more especially one that considerers themselves great.
Ricky Hatton after his debacle of a performance vs Collazo at 147 showed he couldn't handle the weight
JMM after extremely tough fights with Juan Diaz and Joel Casamayor at 135 and Floyd still decided to fight him at 142
Those make me question him...prudent moves, but they allow for "what if's" to be asked. What if he fights Hatton at 140? JMM at 142 is erroneous because Floyd couldn't make 135 again and if he did he'd either keel over and die from the weight loss or just massacre JMM.
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Its 2013 and the best fighters fight twice a year!
Yet somehow you think fighting twice a year produces a better, more skillful fighter than someone who fights 5 fights per year. A fighter gets good by fighting a lot, son...
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The key here is to not use revisionist history, before the Mosley fight nobody knew or even thought to ask if Margarito had loaded his gloves. He had just beaten Miguel Cotto who was undefeated and looking for a shot at Floyd just as much as anyone else at 147 in that time period.
Floyd IS a great fighter, but there are questions about why he chose to fight who he did when he did and at the weight class he did. And those questions are there for ANY fighter but more especially one that considerers themselves great.
Ricky Hatton after his debacle of a performance vs Collazo at 147 showed he couldn't handle the weight
JMM after extremely tough fights with Juan Diaz and Joel Casamayor at 135 and Floyd still decided to fight him at 142
Those make me question him...prudent moves, but they allow for "what if's" to be asked. What if he fights Hatton at 140? JMM at 142 is erroneous because Floyd couldn't make 135 again and if he did he'd either keel over and die from the weight loss or just massacre JMM.
I agree. Floyd is a great fighter. Never said otherwise. I actually like Floyd. Well I did before I found out he loves fags. But anyway him being great doesn't change the fact that he hasn't challenged himself the way he should of. It's not hating on him. It's simple criticism. Valid criticism. But some people are taking that to mean that he fucking sucks. Muthafukas are just to damn sensitive here
