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Originally Posted by robbo
pretty boy floyd mayweather has never fought anyone with the determination and pride that ricky hatton will have going into this fight. period.
cuts or no cuts ricky hatton will come forward like the warrior he truly is.
what will be pbf's answer? retreat! and as he does there will be a young man from manchester ready to chop him down from every perceivable angle known to man.
the leverage hatton gets into his body punches is truly awesome....but his main attribute is tenacity, and pbf will have to do more than "pick him off" if he hopes to remain on his feet at the end of round 12, as i said earlier hatton ko5 imo.
i hate to be a shot poster but it is 4.30 am over here (london) and i need some kip ;D
good to speak to you tonight eagle and i am looking forward to catching up with my post tomorrow ;)
good night, god bless
My point is that Hatton is making a big step up in class fighting PBF, whereas PBF has been in with fighters like Hatton before(chavez, Castillo etc). Those fighters may not be as good as Hatton, but pride and tenacity, hardly ever beat pure class. If they did fighters like Gatti and Katsidis would be P4P number 1.
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Re: Mayweather Hatton faceoff!!
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Originally Posted by eagle
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Originally Posted by LEGION
Im not trying to irritate anyone by continuing this argument about cuts, but this is how I see the fight being finished. In a different post I stated how I would be happy if Rick can just go the distance with Floyd. I don't question Ricks heart or desire, but me personally just see him getting dominated, and see the uppercut as being decisive for Floyd. I WILL say this fight will be stopped from cuts, or at the least a face being closed up similar to Gatti after Floyd touched him. I know Rick would rather get k.o.'d than have a ref stop it, but just because Rick EXPECTS to be cut and is prepared for it doesn't mean he can stop the ref from ending the fight because of cuts, or eyes swollen shut. Once a cut is open, expect Floyd to 0 in on it like a fly on sh#t. Ricky can't outbox Floyd and that left hook to the body is really the only threat to Floyd, and fully expect Floyd and his camp to work on alot of uppercuts when Ricks inside grabbing and then trying to sneak that hook around the side. Ricks going to have to be REALLY prepared to take alot of abuse just to get an occasional punch in. Just my opinion on the fight. I'd be thrilled to see Ricky win, though I like Floyd alot too, and will gladly eat all my words should Rick pull off the upset.
That may well be the most intelligent(other than mine of course ;D) post out of the 400 odd written about this topic. No one is denying Ricky has a chance, he could win, but to say he is favourite, or knows he'll definetly win, or that cuts will be no factor is just dreamworld stuff. Anyone with bxing knowledge knows that PBF is the most likely winner whether he is a twat outside the ring or not. CC for your efforts
Thanks Eagle, much appreciated, and CC back. I'll be as nervous come fight night as anyone, and I got alot of respect for Ricky even jumping in with Floyd, big $$ or not, but I see a bad night for Rick, and a face that looks like a cheese grater ran over it at the end. Hope I'm wrong though ;D
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More i read the more i wish the fight would happen so i can see it and just be done with it cant wait for this fight
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And hope that it lives up to the hype and is close fight either way and not a waste of money
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Originally Posted by Mr140
More i read the more i wish the fight would happen so i can see it and just be done with it cant wait for this fight
No doubt bro'. I sure hope Saddo doesn't ever plan on having a "member get together", as that will be the biggest fight in history the way these threads are going.
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30 pages keep it up fellas good work.
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
30 pages keep it up fellas good work.
I was a bit disappointed today. U havent been backing me up? Hav i been wrong?? ??? haha
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Originally Posted by robbo
pretty boy floyd mayweather has never fought anyone with the determination and pride that ricky hatton will have going into this fight. period.
cuts or no cuts ricky hatton will come forward like the warrior he truly is.
what will be pbf's answer? retreat! and as he does there will be a young man from manchester ready to chop him down from every perceivable angle known to man.
the leverage hatton gets into his body punches is truly awesome....but his main attribute is tenacity, and pbf will have to do more than "pick him off" if he hopes to remain on his feet at the end of round 12, as i said earlier hatton ko5 imo.
i hate to be a shot poster but it is 4.30 am over here (london) and i need some kip ;D
good to speak to you tonight eagle and i am looking forward to catching up with my post tomorrow ;)
good night, god bless
pretty boy floyd mayweather has never fought anyone with the determination and pride that ricky hatton will have going into this fight. period.
Oh yes he has.
Ndou had some of the most determination and pride i've ever seen amount of punishment he was taking and kept coming back was unbelievable
Also Chavez and Castillo.
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Originally Posted by eagle
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
30 pages keep it up fellas good work.
I was a bit disappointed today. U havent been backing me up? Hav i been wrong?? ??? haha
Nah wern't worth it the debates haven't been as strong today.
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Originally Posted by eagle
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
30 pages keep it up fellas good work.
I was a bit disappointed today. U havent been backing me up? Hav i been wrong?? ??? haha
ICB's too smart to keep :beatdeadhorse: That's what we're for ;D
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Re: Mayweather Hatton faceoff!!
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by eagle
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
30 pages keep it up fellas good work.
I was a bit disappointed today. U havent been backing me up? Hav i been wrong?? ??? haha
Nah wern't worth it the debates haven't been as strong today.
This should get u going again then.
Joel Julio is hte best 154 pounder at the moment.
Floyd will lose in 5 to hatton.
Judah and Byrd have more impressive records than PBF......
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this is how it is. Baby Eagle can't fly on his own. He needs ice.
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this is how it is. Baby Eagle can't fly on his own. He needs ice.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Why dont u answer my questions? Who are the fighters that PAc has fought with a huge size advantage over him? Major reach advantage? Come on boxing genius. And also answer me how Pac could KO Sanchez in 6 when Gomez and Nelson better fighters than PAc got ko'd by Salvador?
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Gomez and Nelson better fighter than Pac? Guilty with the fallacy of hasty generalization.
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Gomez and Nelson better fighter than Pac? Guilty with the fallacy of hasty generalization.
Ok we'll do a poll if u like? I'll start it now. Is manny Pac better than Gomez and Nelson. I can start it now if u like?
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hahaha. a poll? and what will it serve? hypothetical comments and lambasting of Pacquaio, Gomez and Nelson.No, no, no. I beg your pardon, I don't like Pacquaio or any fighter being subjected to ridicule from kinder graders.
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Never seen Floyd trash talk so much.....Never seen someone take it as easily as Ricky either. BuT he is chewin the jaw of himself holdin it in, so i wouldn rule out a brawl at the weigh in just yet!
Im gonna be tense December 8th!
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neither has ricky
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Originally Posted by brucelee
Gomez and Nelson better fighter than Pac? Guilty with the fallacy of hasty generalization.
you really are proving to be annoying lots of people, nothing wrong with that per se.......
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by katfight
oh hang on S*** did i just get owned then ?? ::** ::**
I told you the facts like i have done in this entire thread.
ice how can it be fact that pbf will beat hatton the fight hasnt even happened yet howcan it be fact pbf wud beat duran that fight didnt happen
what is exciting in a fight for one person can be boring for another person
u are giving an opinion and calling it a fact
you jumpin on ppl who have a different opinion and asking them to explain down to the most minute detail why they have that opinion.
and because it dont match yours they are automatically wrong
andi dont mean u generally either or all of ur posts but the mayweather issue for u seems to be one that u need to be right about
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by katfight
wtf is it wit u select few u know who u are
if someone dont agree that Mayweathers is the worlds greatest,the closest thing to god
you swarm round him like flies round S*** then start saying he got owned
everyone has a right to thier own opinion
Slk was asked who's career impresses 'you'
im assuming that the you meant was in fact Slk
he cannot be wrong for his opinion on who's career impresses him
and it dont matter why either because it's a personal opinion
it goes like this (not a real conversation,just a mock up b4 u all start saying i didnt say that and crying yourself to sleep)
1.i think mayweather mite get beat this time
2.hater
1. no i just think he runs a lot and hatton may be in hisface toomuch
2.hater
1.no im not a hater
2.hatton fan (plus lots of other childish remarks)
1.no itsjust my opinion that.....
2.how many fights u seen ?????cus ive followed mayweathers career forever and a day since b4 he stepped into a ring
blah blah F****** blah
I guess haters come in all genders. God damn Hatton groupies.
I was going to respond but cant be arsed since that comment is fucking stupid
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Althugs ---
i want hatton to win
i didnt say he would do i think he has a chance yes
ice i think since ive not been on here for days i might just be being a bit unfair i haveto leave for the airport now sowont be on tilll8r or tomoro then i re read this entire post so if i write another reply to u that i do it wit knowledge of everything that has been written
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Re: Mayweather Hatton faceoff!!
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Originally Posted by katfight
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by katfight
oh hang on S*** did i just get owned then ?? ::** ::**
I told you the facts like i have done in this entire thread.
ice how can it be fact that pbf will beat hatton the fight hasnt even happened yet howcan it be fact pbf wud beat duran that fight didnt happen
what is exciting in a fight for one person can be boring for another person
u are giving an opinion and calling it a fact
you jumpin on ppl who have a different opinion and asking them to explain down to the most minute detail why they have that opinion.
and because it dont match yours they are automatically wrong
andi dont mean u generally either or all of ur posts but the mayweather issue for u seems to be one that u need to be right about
ice how can it be fact that pbf will beat hatton the fight hasnt even happened yet howcan it be fact pbf wud beat duran that fight didnt happen
what is exciting in a fight for one person can be boring for another person
u are giving an opinion and calling it a fact
I didn't say that Mayweather beating Hatton was a fact i said i given the facts in this entire thread like Chavez being similar style to Hatton listing all of Mayweather's good fights and plenty of more facts which are proper facts not opinions.
you jumpin on ppl who have a different opinion and asking them to explain down to the most minute detail why they have that opinion.
and because it dont match yours they are automatically wrong
No im not jumping on people with different opinions im asking them to explain if they can't explain then don't bother coming on a forum because your supposed to explain why you think this fighter is going to win or ect don't just say *Hatton is going to win* explain why you think he is going to win Brucelee and Slk just hate on Mayweather and basically speak nonsense why do you think when i ask Brucelee what fights have you watched of Mayweather's he never replies and always changes the subject and why do you think when i ask SLK what were so boring about the fights i listed SLK just slates the opposition and never tells me why fights were boring ?? because he hasn't watched any of them and hasn't got a clue what he is on about and i suppose Joel Julio being a better challenge than Oscar at 154 was a clever response was it ?? that shows me right there SLK hasn't got a clue what he is talking about neither does Brucelee.
andi dont mean u generally either or all of ur posts but the mayweather issue for u seems to be one that u need to be right about
Some are opinions but i give good reasons and explain myself with my opinions in a good way.
Some are facts.
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Originally Posted by katfight
Althugs ---
i want hatton to win
i didnt say he would do i think he has a chance yes
ice i think since ive not been on here for days i might just be being a bit unfair i haveto leave for the airport now sowont be on tilll8r or tomoro then i re read this entire post so if i write another reply to u that i do it wit knowledge of everything that has been written
Just read the whole thread when you get back and your understand and have a nice trip where ever your going.
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Re: Mayweather Hatton faceoff!!
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Originally Posted by eagle
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Originally Posted by robbo
pretty boy floyd mayweather has never fought anyone with the determination and pride that ricky hatton will have going into this fight. period.
cuts or no cuts ricky hatton will come forward like the warrior he truly is.
what will be pbf's answer? retreat! and as he does there will be a young man from manchester ready to chop him down from every perceivable angle known to man.
the leverage hatton gets into his body punches is truly awesome....but his main attribute is tenacity, and pbf will have to do more than "pick him off" if he hopes to remain on his feet at the end of round 12, as i said earlier hatton ko5 imo.
i hate to be a shot poster but it is 4.30 am over here (london) and i need some kip ;D
good to speak to you tonight eagle and i am looking forward to catching up with my post tomorrow ;)
good night, god bless
My point is that Hatton is making a big step up in class fighting PBF, whereas PBF has been in with fighters like Hatton before(chavez, Castillo etc). Those fighters may not be as good as Hatton, but pride and tenacity, hardly ever beat pure class. If they did fighters like Gatti and Katsidis would be P4P number 1.
i dont think anyone pbf has thought to date can be compared to hatton, in a way he is an unorphodox fighter the way he uses clinches to smother his opponent rather than a sign of weakness. he also feints his way inside more effectively than either chavez or castillo and gets more into his punches once he's there...dont get me wrong ricky will have to step it up a gear to overcome floyd because he will be picked off by floyds skillfull back pedalling and jabbing.
however, ricky knows how to use his come forward aggresion effectively and it will prove to be an important asset come dec8 imo
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Going back to the manchester press conference, I found it very funny to see Floyd reduced to shouting at a baying crowd because he wasnt affecting Ricky, he wasnt gonna get far with a few thousand mancs shouting "who are ya!?" and shouting to his lard bucket body guards and Leonard Elerbe "you fat b*stard! you fat b*astard!!"
Rickys gonna make Floyd back peddle so fast he'll fall over his own feet ;D
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Originally Posted by Missy
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Originally Posted by brucelee
Gomez and Nelson better fighter than Pac? Guilty with the fallacy of hasty generalization.
you really are proving to be annoying lots of people, nothing wrong with that per se.......
don't know missy why you said I'm annoying lots of people. it's ICB and eagle that I've been dueling into debates in different threads.
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Originally Posted by katfight
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by katfight
oh hang on S*** did i just get owned then ?? ::** ::**
I told you the facts like i have done in this entire thread.
ice how can it be fact that pbf will beat hatton the fight hasnt even happened yet howcan it be fact pbf wud beat duran that fight didnt happen
what is exciting in a fight for one person can be boring for another person
u are giving an opinion and calling it a fact
you jumpin on ppl who have a different opinion and asking them to explain down to the most minute detail why they have that opinion.
and because it dont match yours they are automatically wrong
andi dont mean u generally either or all of ur posts but the mayweather issue for u seems to be one that u need to be right about
Kat, you may not be referring this to me but I'd say thank you for this comment. I was telling ICB that I'm not excited with PBF because that's the way it is for me. It's plainly relative to a person to like a boxer or not. He was insisting that we be like him. For short, mayweather fans.
I am rooting for Hatton because I like the guy. He's humble and funny. he makes jokes that makes me laugh. In the ring, he fights without hesitation and he goes all the way. Regardless of the risks. An ordinary fan like me (a moron at that, as Missy claims) can't be forced into liking Mayweather and be excited with his fights.Anyway, am watching the fight because of hatton, definitely, not for PBF.
ICB is fond of making judgment and he thinks his answers are the accurate ones. No doubt he has knowledge in boxing but definitely we see different things in boxing. Usually our views are clouded with bias because, in the first place, we have different likes and dislikes.
As you will be going to read the posts in this thread, you will find out what I mean.
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kat, take this cc from me.
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lol. you guys are making this fight more exciting than it really is. ;D
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Originally Posted by eagle
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Originally Posted by brucelee
Gomez and Nelson better fighter than Pac? Guilty with the fallacy of hasty generalization.
Ok we'll do a poll if u like? I'll start it now. Is manny Pac better than Gomez and Nelson. I can start it now if u like?
Pac.beats Nelson and KOS 6 sanchez??????THat boarders on lunacy.someones affection and appreciation for granted a superb fighter has made then foggy. :P
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Originally Posted by brucelee
Gomez and Nelson better fighter than Pac? Guilty with the fallacy of hasty generalization.
Your lust for Pac is fucking up your brain
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Originally Posted by katfight
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by katfight
oh hang on S*** did i just get owned then ?? ::** ::**
I told you the facts like i have done in this entire thread.
ice how can it be fact that pbf will beat hatton the fight hasnt even happened yet howcan it be fact pbf wud beat duran that fight didnt happen
what is exciting in a fight for one person can be boring for another person
u are giving an opinion and calling it a fact
you jumpin on ppl who have a different opinion and asking them to explain down to the most minute detail why they have that opinion.
and because it dont match yours they are automatically wrong
andi dont mean u generally either or all of ur posts but the mayweather issue for u seems to be one that u need to be right about
Kat, you may not be referring this to me but I'd say thank you for this comment. I was telling ICB that I'm not excited with PBF because that's the way it is for me. It's plainly relative to a person to like a boxer or not. He was insisting that we be like him. For short, mayweather fans.
I am rooting for Hatton because I like the guy. He's humble and funny. he makes jokes that makes me laugh. In the ring, he fights without hesitation and he goes all the way. Regardless of the risks. An ordinary fan like me (a moron at that, as Missy claims) can't be forced into liking Mayweather and be excited with his fights.Anyway, am watching the fight because of hatton, definitely, not for PBF.
ICB is fond of making judgment and he thinks his answers are the accurate ones. No doubt he has knowledge in boxing but definitely we see different things in boxing. Usually our views are clouded with bias because, in the first place, we have different likes and dislikes.
As you will be going to read the posts in this thread, you will find out what I mean.
Kat, you may not be referring this to me but I'd say thank you for this comment. I was telling ICB that I'm not excited with PBF because that's the way it is for me. It's plainly relative to a person to like a boxer or not. He was insisting that we be like him. For short, mayweather fans.
You can never tell me why fights i listed were boring and im not trying to make anyone like Mayweather im asking you to answer the question why fights i listed were boring because they had plenty of action in them and when i ask the question you run out of thread wait until next day and then type same nonsense and i ask you the question again and you run away again avoiding the question and you did see the question because you was viewing the topic so when its proven you no nothing about his fights and obvisiously have little knowledge on Mayweather you try and cover it up and leave the thread.
ICB is fond of making judgment and he thinks his answers are the accurate ones. No doubt he has knowledge in boxing but definitely we see different things in boxing. Usually our views are clouded with bias because, in the first place, we have different likes and dislikes.
My comments have been accurate ones thats why you have been running off this thread in last few days quicker than Michael Johnson my views are not clouded and im not biased.
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Everyone in boxing is bias ICE it is the way this sport is everyone makes a bias comment once in a while
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Everyone in boxing is bias ICE it is the way this sport is everyone makes a bias comment once in a while
Bullshit. I been watching boxing for years. My opinion's are as unbiased as they come.
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Like agapito sanchez's style making a problem on Manny?LOL
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Like agapito sanchez's style making a problem on Manny?LOL
Watch the fight
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You see what i mean ?? he can never tell me why the fights were boring he is avoiding the question just like always.
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have watched it again just like you requested me.Pacquaio was making some good combinations out there when Sanchez hit him below the belt for nth times. When Sanchez was fighting fairly he was clearly beaten to the punch. have you count the number of times he did some low blows on Pacquaio? He was like a lower weight version of Golotta.
That accounts for his style.
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
You see what i mean ?? he can never tell me why the fights were boring he is avoiding the question just like always.
what do you mean Ice? I've responded. It takes some time to type. Besides, I have responsibilities as head of my organization. I will answer only to questions which I find logical and practical to answer.