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Right, so every single taller fighter that Mike fought when he was, actually, GOD, got knocked out in the first round if they dared throw a jab at him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey
SNAP OUT OF IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Sorry bout that, I'm trying to get you out of the hypnosis that Kevin Rooney and Teddy Atlas seem to have you under.
If Lewis fights safe and take Mike into the later rounds I think he wins by KO. Pumps the jab stays on his toes and ties Mike up on the inside A La Holyfield. I think Mike even in his prime is still a fragile mental and emotional person. If Lennox can frustrate him and take him deep into a fight once again I'd pick him to win by 11/12 rnd KO.
....or Tyson could throw a right hand and KTFO Lewis. ^-^
Yea if he did not breack down after getting hit and outboxed by Lewis which he would then Lewis would put him away late in the fight.
Tyson did not break down in his prime. He took his beating with grace. Lewis could not remember his defeats as he was always knocked out.
That may have been the difference. To beat Lewis you had to knock him out. To beat Mike all you had to do was persevere until the savage onslaught subsided and then pick your punches.
Yeah that all you have to do. Many tried and many failed. In his prime it was not that easy.
Well yea but the best guy he ever beat was a 38 year old Larry holmes that pretty sad to be called unbeatable when your best win is a 38 year old Holmes who did not fight in a while so we do not know how Tyson would of done with elite compation because everytime he faced one he lost.
.....FINALLY SOMEONE GETS IT!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr140
When Frank Bruno is the toughest guy in his prime at the same time tyson is in his then I think it's safe to say it was a weak era
Wasn't easy to KO lewis tho.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
His KO losses i actually scratch down to complacency and lack of training. He took lots of good shots from Mason, Briggs, Bruno, Rahman 2, Klitschko and even Tua and didn get sparked.
I always seem to be arguing against hitman, Lyle and Mr140 but Tyson wins. He battered the old Holmes like a great fighter should have, you cannot criticise his victory. Holmes has never been knocked out since. Lewis chin is his weakness face it.
Ha, ul be glad to know i don't argue, every post you make i learn a little from it and try to see does it change my reasoning, but it's not happeneing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Holmes was 38, a undeniable legend, but undeniably an aged and battle weary legend. As a fighter Tyson was formidable. His sheer punching ability ranks right up there as anywher in the top 5 of all time. His movement was good, he wasted little in terms of bothe nergy and punches and his aggression was unrivalled EVER apart from the considerably smaller and less rounded Jack Dempsey.
However his antithesis was Lewis, who's chin was unfairly written off as easy to crack. (Tua failed, Briggs caught him and failed, Ruddock Failed, Mason caught him and failed.)
Lewis was naturally blessed with the attributes necessary to beat Tyson. A jab like a javelin, height stamina and sufficient movement and defensive skills to evade Mikes fury....
The sparred when Lewis was 18 and Mike 17, Mike won the first par and the second was even, on the third day Lewis gave him a beating at Catskills. Lewis could figure him oput and beat him...
Well master can argue all you want but in the end Lewis wins and even if Tyson was not prime Lewis still beat him up in real life so it does not matter. Everytime I agrue this people just do not give me any examples on how tyson would win and the only way is a lucky punch but if Lewis is peak he will outbox and knock out Tyson 100 out 101 times if he fought him Tyson is not the better guy and his resume says it all if you do not believe me my friend just look it up.
....And Lewis battered the old TysonQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
Didn't we all learn about them sparring when they were younger and Tyson got the best of Lewis on the first day and Lewis got the best of Tyson the next day.
Tyson would always have a shot of KO-ing Lewis but really Lennox could wait Tyson out and go the distance or knock him out....Lewis' size, reach, and ring generalship (especially in his prime) would have made even a Prime Tyson have more trouble than anyone else even on a bad day.
I honestly don't think Tyson had the heart to beat any top 10 heavyweights of all-time
Well that spar took place at about their 18/19th birthdays, so it was a long time ago!Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
Supplementary to that, in sparring, if you take it in context, Mike one the first 4 rounds, lewis drew with him in the middle four and Lewis really beat him in the final four...
With neither guy hitting the canvas...
So make what you want from that ;D