Re: Mike Tyson vs Muhammed ALI
Um..just incase u didnt know lewis is over. He will never get better, he is done and gone. His prime was back and it still wasnt good enough to beat mike or ali in their primes, so Lewis can get out of this convo now. The only ones who can actually contend for the best ever is ali or mike..i think its close but i choose mike. Ive also defended it in past posts...PEACE
Re: Mike Tyson vs Muhammed ALI
No contest!
Tyson simply does not possess to fighting heart to live with Ali!!
Ali in his prime (1966/7) would have danced the night away & TKO'd Tyson on cuts. Bear in mind that we never saw the real prime Ali, because he would have been in his peak from about 1967 -1971!
Even the older 70's Ali would have beaten a peak Tyson by lying on the ropes & telling him how ugly he was!!!!! :lickish: :D ;D ;)
Re: Mike Tyson vs Muhammed ALI
I dont get how ppl give mike a chancee. Not even foreman who was bigger than tyson could manhandle him so how could tyson. Ali would hit tyson with the jab all night long.
Re: Mike Tyson vs Muhammed ALI
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Originally Posted by ali2coolwitu
Um..just incase u didnt know lewis is over. He will never get better, he is done and gone. His prime was back and it still wasnt good enough to beat mike or ali in their primes, so Lewis can get out of this convo now. The only ones who can actually contend for the best ever is ali or mike..i think its close but i choose mike. Ive also defended it in past posts...PEACE
Just in case you didn't know Tyson is over, Â he will never get better he has been over for the last 10 years. Â Â How can someone who got beat by Buster Douglas, Holyfield twice, Â destroyed by Lennox Lewis and then beat by Danny Williams of all people be considered the best heavyweight ever.
People jump on Lewis for his 2 losses, Â but the fact is he should of been able to carry on against McCall and he was 36 when he got beat by Rahman and I think he just took him to lightly, Â but he proved that they were not in his league in the rematches !!
Re: Mike Tyson vs Muhammed ALI
Dude i never said mike tyson will become amazing again(although i believe there might be a chance if he works his guts out) but his prime can kill anybody. And Lewis is done growing, we have seen his prime, and he can get knocked out easily by tyson or ali in their prime.
Re: Mike Tyson vs Muhammed ALI
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Originally Posted by ali2coolwitu
Dude i never said mike tyson will become amazing again(although i believe there might be a chance if he works his guts out) but his prime can kill anybody. And Lewis is done growing, we have seen his prime, and he can get knocked out easily by tyson or ali in their prime.
I think Lewis would have more trouble with a prime Tyson than a prime Ali, styles make fights and I have weighed up Ali's style and size and power and I cant see how he could beat Lewis.
As for Tyson, he never fought anyone in his prime ths size and in the same league as Lewis, but that can be said about Lewis not fighting someone of Tyson's calibre in his prime, so we will never know.
But you have to go off the facts, and 90's heavy's were not far behind the 70's in quality and Lewis proved the dominate heavyweight just like Ali did in the 60s and 70's, actually Lewis dominated more !!
I would put money on it if Tyson had the same record as Lewis, exactly the same and the same opponents on his record and the beat every man he faced record and 3 time heavyweight champion and Olympic gold he would be considered the best ever by alot more people.
I hear some people on here and they sort of laugh it off about Lewis even been close, well got news for you Lewis haters, he was right up there in the top 3 if not the best ever !!
Re: Mike Tyson vs Muhammed ALI
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Originally Posted by ROCKY MARSHMELLOW
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Originally Posted by ali2coolwitu
Dude i never said mike tyson will become amazing again(although i believe there might be a chance if he works his guts out) but his prime can kill anybody. And Lewis is done growing, we have seen his prime, and he can get knocked out easily by tyson or ali in their prime.
I think Lewis would have more trouble with a prime Tyson than a prime Ali, styles make fights and I have weighed up Ali's style and size and power and I cant see how he could beat Lewis.
As for Tyson, he never fought anyone in his prime ths size and in the same league as Lewis, but that can be said about Lewis not fighting someone of Tyson's calibre in his prime, so we will never know.
But you have to go off the facts, and 90's heavy's were not far behind the 70's in quality and Lewis proved the dominate heavyweight just like Ali did in the 60s and 70's, actually Lewis dominated more !!
I would put money on it if Tyson had the same record as Lewis, exactly the same and the same opponents on his record and the beat every man he faced record and 3 time heavyweight champion and Olympic gold he would be considered the best ever by alot more people.
I hear some people on here and they sort of laugh it off about Lewis even been close, well got news for you Lewis haters, he was right up there in the top 3 if not the best ever !!
Don't tell them that Lewis was a quality fighter, you'll shatter their dreams!!!!
Re: Mike Tyson vs Muhammed ALI
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Yes, a lot of Americans are self-righteous. Also, a lot of Americans today hate Ali. They hate him for not fighting in the Vietnam war.Â
I see your point. Ok?Â
If heavyweights keep getting bigger, it's going to be ridiculous to compare Marciano, Ali, Dempsy, and Lewis. It's all going to boil to pound-for-pound heavweight arguements. I like Ali for his story, he just kept winning, blows everybody away, coming back from exile, winning again, fight of the century he lost, has another comeback, keeps winning, another comeback, then KO's Big George in eight. Can't get any more dynamic than that in my opinion.
Lewis can be the best, there I said it!
And means, all those coolclicks are probably from me, because I think your right for the most part.Â
Sorry for not arguing till the end, but I can only argue for only two or three thread pages. ;D
:coolclick: thanks man lol
yea i may have too much spare time lately ;D
Re: Mike Tyson vs Muhammed ALI
excuses??
Lewis excuse for winning against klitschko was he cut vitali
vitali was beating up Lewis & Lewis was tired .....Lewis got the W but if you saw the fight its anything but somthin to brag about for Lewis
i mean Lewis is the only boxer to come out of brittain that is very good so i dont blame you running with "Lewis is greatest of all times"
I'M STARTING TO LIKE BEING CALLED A YANK :dance1: :army:
Re: Mike Tyson vs Muhammed ALI
See you have got to mention a fighter that is from the Ukraine/Russia/Germany or where ever the big gonk is from what happened to your US fighters. Lewis was going to win that fight, so what if he was tired so was Shitszcho the difference is Lewis's face was not hanging off !!
39 years of age and still managed to beat him with in 6 rounds.
Means you come across like you know nothing
1. you talk about Lewis's last fight as if it was a bad thing
2. You think Lewis is the only good fighter to come out of Britain
3. You have so many excuse's for USA fighters but pick out stupid things about Lewis, like he got out boxed by Frank Bruno even though he took Bruno's head clean off in 7 rounds. When I can easierly say that Lewis knocked down Tony Tucker twice something Tyson couldn't do, he destroyed Ruddock in 1 and half rounds, Tyson had 2 wars with him, Boxed Holyfields head off, Destroyed Golata in 1 round but Bowe was getting out boxed by him in 2 fights, Destroyed Botha in 1 and half rounds the same fighter that out boxed Tyson for 4 rounds, give Tyson his worse beating and probably one of the worst I have ever seen, and to finish it off beat everyone he ever faced, not even Ali can say that, anyway the list goes on and on !!
When you look at all of his acheivments all your excuse's look pretty sad !!
You prick !!
Re: Mike Tyson vs Muhammed ALI
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excuses??
Lewis excuse for winning against klitschko was he cut vitali
vitali was beating up Lewis & Lewis was tired .....Lewis got the W but if you saw the fight its anything but somthin to brag about for Lewis
i mean Lewis is the only boxer to come out of brittain that is very good so i dont blame you running with "Lewis is greatest of all times"
I think it's something to brag about, he punched the cunts face off.
I remember when Michael 'I've got the strength of ten gorillas' Grant was gonna be the next great American heavyweight.
Re: Mike Tyson vs Muhammed ALI
how could you even like lewis? He has no heart, hes not talkative or funny like mike tyson, and he doesnt have as many knock outs! stop defending for him! he would lose
Re: Mike Tyson vs Muhammed ALI
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I dont get how ppl give mike a chancee. Not even foreman who was bigger than tyson could manhandle him so how could tyson. Ali would hit tyson with the jab all night long.
tyson is not foreman, tyson has his deadly uppercut,and could give body shots like no otherfighter. i would still pick ali cuz he would f.... tysons face up w/severe cuts then win by a tko. ali a head hunter, he doesnt need 2 go 2 the body when its so easy 4 him just to hit some1 in the face
Re: Mike Tyson vs Muhammed ALI
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Originally Posted by ROCKY MARSHMELLOW
See you have got to mention a fighter that is from the Ukraine/Russia/Germany or where ever the big gonk is from what happened to your US fighters.  Lewis was going to win that fight, so what if he was tired so was s***szcho the difference is Lewis's face was not hanging off !!
39 years of age and still managed to beat him with in 6 rounds. Â
Means you come across like you know nothingÂ
1. you talk about Lewis's last fight as if it was a bad thingÂ
2. You think Lewis is the only good fighter to come out of Britain
3. You have so many excuse's for USA fighters but pick out stupid things about Lewis, like he got out boxed by Frank Bruno even though he took Bruno's head clean off in 7 rounds.  When I can easierly say that Lewis knocked down Tony Tucker twice something Tyson couldn't do,  he destroyed Ruddock in 1 and half rounds, Tyson had 2 wars with him,  Boxed Holyfields head off, Destroyed Golata in 1 round but Bowe was getting out boxed by him in 2 fights, Destroyed Botha in 1 and half rounds the same fighter that out boxed Tyson for 4 rounds, give Tyson his worse beating and probably one of the worst I have ever seen, and to finish it off beat everyone he ever faced, not even Ali can say that, anyway the list goes on and on !!
When you look at all of his acheivments all your excuse's look pretty sad !!
You prick !!
i come off like i dont know anything??
your INCORRECT Tyson fought Lewis only once ...only one war
Lewis looked like he was getting mugged by klitschko and happened to cut him in defense of himself (u did see the fight didnt you?)
Lewiz= best Brit boxer ever!! :bowdown: :britain:
Re: Mike Tyson vs Muhammed ALI
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Originally Posted by ROCKY MARSHMELLOW
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Originally Posted by ali2coolwitu
Dude i never said mike tyson will become amazing again(although i believe there might be a chance if he works his guts out) but his prime can kill anybody. And Lewis is done growing, we have seen his prime, and he can get knocked out easily by tyson or ali in their prime.
I think Lewis would have more trouble with a prime Tyson than a prime Ali,  styles make fights and I have weighed up Ali's style and size and power and I cant see how he could beat Lewis.Â
As for Tyson, he never fought anyone in his prime ths size and in the same league as Lewis,  but that can be said about Lewis not fighting someone of Tyson's calibre in his prime,  so we will never know.Â
But you have to go off the facts,  and 90's heavy's were not far behind the 70's in quality and Lewis proved the dominate heavyweight just like Ali did in the 60s and 70's,  actually Lewis dominated more !!
I would put money on it if Tyson had the same record as Lewis, exactly the same and the same opponents on his record and the beat every man he faced record and 3 time heavyweight champion and Olympic gold he would be considered the best ever by alot more people.Â
I hear some people on here and they sort of laugh it off about Lewis even been close,  well got news for you Lewis haters,  he was right up there in the top 3 if not the best ever !!
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