Oscar de la Hoya Vs Steve Forbes Predictions, rd by rd and Results ETC

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Originally Posted by Andre

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Originally Posted by KingMelo15

Golden boy Oscar will win cuz he is one of da great boxers

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;D edit.

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LOL.. I wanted to reply or add to that one as well, but what can you say. :)

One thing that pissed me of just watching the venue.....was the huge areas of empty wide open space that were closer than the seats people paid 25 bucks for. Seems like a waste of space the fans could have occupied and had better view. It just bugs me to see empty seats, they should have some kind of move up policy.

Fuck's sake HBO was really trying to sell Oscar-Floyd 2. Did anybody really think Oscar looked as good as they were making him out to be?

Looked poor to me, reflexes looked slower than usual.

Forbes was game, but Oscar couldn't put away an opponent who was: 1) undersized, 2) light-hitting, and 3) hand-picked. He'll lose a second decision to Floyd, and retire before risking getting in the ring with Cotto.

OK loved the fight and the way ODH preformed as its gonna be great odds on Oscar for the rematch and i for one will be betting big ;)

he's gonna win easy you watch.... it will be like the real round 4 :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by amat

Hornets - Spurs time 8)

Hope you enjoyed the RBR maybe if Wacko is going to stay away I can make those fairly regular I enjoy doing them.

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great stuff mate ;)

Not sucking up, but Saddo is usually spot on, on analysis.

I might buy Oscar Floyd II. I didn't buy the first one. Depends on how I feel at the time.

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Originally Posted by gyrokai

Not sucking up, but Saddo is usually spot on, on analysis.

I might buy Oscar Floyd II. I didn't buy the first one. Depends on how I feel at the time.

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Starting the post with the words "Not Sucking Up..." doens't exactly bode well for the post. ;)

Kinda like telling someone, "I don't mean to be rude, but..." which is always followed by a statement of extreme rudeness

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Originally Posted by superheavyrhun

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Originally Posted by gyrokai

Not sucking up, but Saddo is usually spot on, on analysis.

I might buy Oscar Floyd II. I didn't buy the first one. Depends on how I feel at the time.

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Starting the post with the words "Not Sucking Up..." doens't exactly bode well for the post. ;)

Kinda like telling someone, "I don't mean to be rude, but..." which is always followed by a statement of extreme rudeness

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I'm giving Saddo acknowledgement on to how much weight I put into his assessments on fights and fighters. In other words, I respect his veiws tremendously. :) I'm just saying, I like to read his posts, not because he's Head of the House, but because I like them.

DLH may have a chance after all. I just might buy the pay per view that night, even though I'm against the matchup.

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Originally Posted by hattonthehammer

great stuff guys, reading through this thread has made my sunday morning.

Dax is fucking hilarious

I tried so so hard to stay a wake for that one - excellent undercard fights aided my cause a great deal. But by round 3 of the oscar fight i knew the result was nothing more than a dull jab fest that would lead to a comfortable oscar victory.

Credit to forbes he fought a great contest and deserves every penny he earnt from this fight, would not be surprised one bit to see him winning a world title. But thats hardly a major accomplishment when you consider that they are given out like sweets nowadays.

I had it 118-111 and like 99% of this forum was not the slightest bit impressed with that performance from oscar.

Know it sounds kinda odd but i strangely see oscars chances of beating floyd have now improved. He needed that confidence fighting someone with a similar style to PBF and im quite sure given a rematch he can overturn that 1-2pt deficit.

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Im sure it build his confidence up with the fact he couldnt stop forbes and that his face was busted up by someone who can't punch and he went in there to knock him out and couldnt :)

This fight was to make Oscar look spectacular but he couldnt :) if anything it lessened the want for a rematch with mayweather. Maybe his other 3 fights before Floyd will look better

Oscar is out of his mind with this three fight two loss scenerio he has going on, if he really thinks he can beat floyd, cotto, or hell even margarito he's crazy. For his sake i hope he's doing it only for the money cause from that point of view maybe it makes sense.

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Originally Posted by Mar

Oscar is out of his mind with this three fight two loss scenerio he has going on, if he really thinks he can beat floyd, cotto, or hell even margarito he's crazy. For his sake i hope he's doing it only for the money cause from that point of view maybe it makes sense.

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I see the second PBF fight going pretty much like the first except from looking at DLH the other night...(I did not see where anyone found him to look impressive sorry but he looked like a guy who came into a fight with a plan and had a hard time executing it)....The second fight Floyd puts a bigger gap in the scores...Only good thing for Oscar (Especially looking at what Forbes did to his face)...Floyd will be countering all night,,,If he goes after DLH getting in throwing combos then moving so Oscar can't get off I actually think a stoppage or Gross beat down wouold occur....

As for DLH against Tony or Cotto....I see him being beaten down in a fight...Not a boxing match what so ever....Cotto will break the body down by the 6th DLH will be moving around like an 80yr old man with arthritis...

Margarito would just take him out like he snatched his chain in the street....DLH in no way will stop Tony especially with what Margarito has proven his jaw to be...Oscar looked slow to me against Forbes so there would not be a real speed advantage though Tony is a fairly slow fighter....If the fight took place at 147 DLH would be wqeight drained....and at 154 Tony makes it no problem increasing his power....

It would be a showcase for Margarito's power and grit....

It would be a showcase for Cotto and what a preview of a showdown between him and PBF might look like

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As for DLH against Tony or Cotto....I see him being beaten down in a fight...Not a boxing match what so ever....Cotto will break the body down by the 6th DLH will be moving around like an 80yr old man with arthritis...

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Unless Oscar keeps Tony at the distance like Paul Williams did or unless Oscar connects that left hook to Cotto's jaw to have him dancing like many of Cotto's previous fights.

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Originally Posted by Chino

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As for DLH against Tony or Cotto....I see him being beaten down in a fight...Not a boxing match what so ever....Cotto will break the body down by the 6th DLH will be moving around like an 80yr old man with arthritis...

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Unless Oscar keeps Tony at the distance like Paul Williams did or unless Oscar connects that left hook to Cotto's jaw to have him dancing like many of Cotto's previous fights.

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Paul Williams won the Tony fight due to Tony not being active early on...He lost by 2pts on 2 of the judges cards and 1 had it 112-116...Williams really did not neutralize Maragrito all that much with the jab...Was it his best weapon in the fight? Yes but also Williams is 6'1 with an 82" reach.....DLH is about 2 inches shorter and has something like a 72 or 73 inch reach...Margarito has an identical height and reach....DLH is not strong enough to keep Tony off with the jab...Tony would make him Figfht and keep the jab out of the factor....

DLH does not hit that hard anymore and looks slow...The Forbes fight showed how much he has declined....Cotto would keep him on the defensive....Allowing him to attack....Cotto does not have as bad a jaw as everyone makes out....Anyone who is 32-0 and has beaten Mosley in the distance can't have too bad of a chin IMO...Mosley has an impressive KO ration 37 out of 44 wins...a higher percentage rate then DLH so I can't see how you figure the power of Oscar would be a factor

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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn

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Originally Posted by Chino

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As for DLH against Tony or Cotto....I see him being beaten down in a fight...Not a boxing match what so ever....Cotto will break the body down by the 6th DLH will be moving around like an 80yr old man with arthritis...

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Unless Oscar keeps Tony at the distance like Paul Williams did or unless Oscar connects that left hook to Cotto's jaw to have him dancing like many of Cotto's previous fights.

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Paul Williams won the Tony fight due to Tony not being active early on...He lost by 2pts on 2 of the judges cards and 1 had it 112-116...Williams really did not neutralize Maragrito all that much with the jab...Was it his best weapon in the fight? Yes but also Williams is 6'1 with an 82" reach.....DLH is about 2 inches shorter and has something like a 72 or 73 inch reach...Margarito has an identical height and reach....DLH is not strong enough to keep Tony off with the jab...Tony would make him Figfht and keep the jab out of the factor....

DLH does not hit that hard anymore and looks slow...The Forbes fight showed how much he has declined....Cotto would keep him on the defensive....Allowing him to attack....Cotto does not have as bad a jaw as everyone makes out....Anyone who is 32-0 and has beaten Mosley in the distance can't have too bad of a chin IMO...Mosley has an impressive KO ration 37 out of 44 wins...a higher percentage rate then DLH so I can't see how you figure the power of Oscar would be a factor

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Most of Mosley's KO's came when he was steamrolling the lightweight division. He hasn't been much of KO artist in recent ears. If anything the Mosley/Cotto fight showed me that Oscar would stand a very good chance of beating Cotto. If a 36 year old Shane...a Shane Mosley who looked considerably slower....could fight Cotto to a draw (yes...i had the fight a draw)...then i have no idea how some of you think Cotto will dominate Oscar. Oscar, even at this stage of his career, is a more skilled fighter than Cotto. As great and improved a fighter as Cotto is...he still has a porous defense and i'm not sold on his chin. Cotto's biggest advantage is his youth...but his youth didn't exactly carry him to an impressive victory over a well past prime Shane. Some people are gonna hate on Oscar...end of story. He looked slow and weak against Forbes?! Really! Sure, Forbes isn't a tremendous fighter. Sure he is undersized. But he is fast and slick...and isn't the type of fighter who is gonna get knocked out. It was tune up fight people. And it was a clean, mildly entertaining fight at that. And please don't forget...every fighter...EVERY FIGHTER....wants to fight Oscar. You don't think Cotto is dreaming about a mega fight with Oscar?! You don't think Tony would flip out at a chance to get in the ring with Oscar?! Even the world's p4p #1 fighter, Floyd, is dying for a rematch with Oscar...even though he won the first fight! But some of you think it's just Oscar who is all about the money. Boxing is a business and almost everyone is about the $$$.

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Originally Posted by Dizaster

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Originally Posted by Andre

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Originally Posted by KingMelo15

Golden boy Oscar will win cuz he is one of da great boxers

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;D edit.

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LOL.. I wanted to reply or add to that one as well, but what can you say. :)

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I like the look of his photo for his avatar if that's him he looks like a top bloke,man of few words ,know where you stand right a way type... Libel to knock you on the head with a hammer fist instead of complaining .:cool: