Re: Pacquiao-Mayweather in jeopardy...
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cnote111
@ElTerrible - A penalty for coming in over weight is to prevent Floyd using his weight to create an advantage over the smaller fighter which he just did last September...
The Roid issue is completely made up!
@Majesty - I have no double standard on my issues...But I will not compare apple and oranges... Would Mayweather come up with a penalty at PAC for coming in overweight?? No... Because Pac does not create advantages using his weight AFTER the weight is agreed upon... PBF will agree to a weight and then come in heavy...
The ROID issue is completely made up and has not basis of being even used against PAC.
@Killer - I really like your breakdown of the unrealistic terms of overall drug screening; however, my point is that Mayweather has no bearing on being the guy that starts this new drug screening process. This should be reviewed and drummed up by the sanctioning bodies... Not a fighters pre-fight stipulation without any evidence to even accuse PAC in the first place...
It may well be, but why not take the test and prove it? They're both subjected to the same tests, and Mayweather has a point by saying that he wants the tests to make sure that the biggest fight in history is a fair fight.
You saying earlier that 'there is no basis for this kind of test because it hasn't come up with Pac before' is ridiculous. By your logic, Nazim Richardson as wrong to accuse Margarito and ask him to re-wrap his hands because it had never been asked of him before.
If and when this comes off I thought I'd want Pac to win. But Pac's fans failure to see two sides of an argument is enough to make me want him to fail.
Re: Latest Report, Pac-man Mayweather called off
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Latest report from E.S.P.N. is that the megafight has been called off. Why am I not suprised.
It figures. Floyd once again being a little biatch and refusing to fight a top dangerous fighter. I guess Floyd is content with being the Queen while little Manny remains the King. Floyd is a punk and a coward.
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Re: Pacquiao-Mayweather in jeopardy...
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Why should Pacquiao comply? This is just another Mayweather ploy to play head games...Hell if he agrees to the overweight pricing then I am sure Freddie will talk Manny into taking the test....Floyd is scared and to say different is a Floyd nut hugger....
It is an insult to Pacquiao that he take a test for Floyds satisfaction...Yet Floyd won't agree to Manny's request? :rolleyes: Floyd always looking to stack the deck in his favor
The idea of Manny should just take the test to prove Floyd wrong is not a good reply...This will then become a common practice for other fighters making simular demands of opponents...
Hell Floyd is the one who left the sport....Manny stayed and fought on but now Manny should jump at what Floyd wants? Nah...
Yet Floyd knows he wants to come in overweight to make thing ever more in his favor....
Why doesn't Floyd agree to have his whole body tested for feces and prove he is not one big asshole?
Manny should nor any fighter have to take anything more then the mandatory test required by the commission or the other guy should have to succumb to the same test or at minimum one guy gives in to the others demands then vice versa
Fair is fair
Nuthugger stepping to the plate I guess... Or it should say anyone who disagrees with Daxx Khan is wrong:rolleyes:
Anyway, when was the last time Mayweather didnt make the 147 limit?? Enough said!!!!
The fact that Pac is the only guy in the history of boxing to storm through 7 weight classes in an era where PED and designer Roids are the rule rather than exception has raised red flags... I gotta tell you besides Lance Armstrong every other elite athlete who they have been suspicious of have most of the time have been connected to some kind of PED or the evidence has been so overwhelming you would have to be blind not to accept it...
I particularly think that the whole Floyd walked away and Manny kept fighting so Manny should ignore Floyd argument is as short sighted as I have ever heard since this came to fruition...
Where talking about 2 Hall Of Fame fighters who are the 2 best of this generation and hopefully about to engage in the most meanigful fight in the whole history of the sport... Floyd has every reason to be concerned about his legacy in the midst of all the rumors swirling around steroid or PED use..
If there is smoke than there is fire, should be nothing to hide here about blood testing, its not like they are going to take 2 quarts from Pac and weaken him like he is on Chemo or something... Not to mention Floyd is not asking Pac to do anything that he isint going to do either...
Reminds me of Sammy Sosa being accused of doing Roids by a reporter.... Sammy said all take a test now or anytime.. Reporter gets an independent lab lined up and all of a sudden Sosa is mumbling and jumbling without taking a test, and guess what he never failed a drug test either but he wont even snif the hall of fame like the rest of them....
Floyd scared nah, Floyd wants to make sure he is fighting an athlete who is natural at his craft like himself without any enhancements
I am a nut hugger because I don't agree with what Floyd is demanding...
Oh Wait JT gets in like a big man and starts to throw out sarcastic things like...Anyone who doesn't agree with Daxx is wrong...:rolleyes:
It is reasons like that I hardly post here anymore..
Have a good holiday
No I was the nuthugger stepping to the plate
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Floyd is scared and to say different is a Floyd nut hugger....
Those were your quotes and you started the sarcasm I was simply not agreeing with you.
I feel like your ignoring the 800lb gorilla in the room which is Pac having a peculiar run through weights like superman and your 10000000000000% focused on making this all about Mayweather being Satan and the Anti-Christ as usual
PS I dont really post here anymore either for the same reasons you stated ;)
Re: Pacquiao-Mayweather in jeopardy...
fuk sakes guys. ofc people disagree. big deal. you all are going to have to tell where peeps post where everyone agrees all the time. so i can avoid it. must be the most boring place on earth.
Re: Pacquiao-Mayweather in jeopardy...
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JT Rock
Nuthugger stepping to the plate I guess... Or it should say anyone who disagrees with Daxx Khan is wrong:rolleyes:
Anyway, when was the last time Mayweather didnt make the 147 limit?? Enough said!!!!
The fact that Pac is the only guy in the history of boxing to storm through 7 weight classes in an era where PED and designer Roids are the rule rather than exception has raised red flags... I gotta tell you besides Lance Armstrong every other elite athlete who they have been suspicious of have most of the time have been connected to some kind of PED or the evidence has been so overwhelming you would have to be blind not to accept it...
I particularly think that the whole Floyd walked away and Manny kept fighting so Manny should ignore Floyd argument is as short sighted as I have ever heard since this came to fruition...
Where talking about 2 Hall Of Fame fighters who are the 2 best of this generation and hopefully about to engage in the most meanigful fight in the whole history of the sport... Floyd has every reason to be concerned about his legacy in the midst of all the rumors swirling around steroid or PED use..
If there is smoke than there is fire, should be nothing to hide here about blood testing, its not like they are going to take 2 quarts from Pac and weaken him like he is on Chemo or something... Not to mention Floyd is not asking Pac to do anything that he isint going to do either...
Reminds me of Sammy Sosa being accused of doing Roids by a reporter.... Sammy said all take a test now or anytime.. Reporter gets an independent lab lined up and all of a sudden Sosa is mumbling and jumbling without taking a test, and guess what he never failed a drug test either but he wont even snif the hall of fame like the rest of them....
Floyd scared nah, Floyd wants to make sure he is fighting an athlete who is natural at his craft like himself without any enhancements
I am a nut hugger because I don't agree with what Floyd is demanding...
Oh Wait JT gets in like a big man and starts to throw out sarcastic things like...Anyone who doesn't agree with Daxx is wrong...:rolleyes:
It is reasons like that I hardly post here anymore..
Have a good holiday
No I was the nuthugger stepping to the plate
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Floyd is scared and to say different is a Floyd nut hugger....[/quote]
Those were your quotes and you started the sarcasm I was simply not agreeing with you.
I feel like your ignoring the 800lb gorilla in the room which is Pac having a peculiar run through weights like superman and your 10000000000000% focused on making this all about Mayweather being Satan and the Anti-Christ as usual
PS I dont really post here anymore either for the same reasons you stated ;)
i agree that bit is pathetic
Re: Pacquiao-Mayweather in jeopardy...
Cnote, since you are Pac's lone supporter on this thread, will you try and answer a few of my questions that I posed in my other posts?
Re: Pacquiao-Mayweather in jeopardy...
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JT Rock
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DaxxKahn
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JT Rock
Nuthugger stepping to the plate I guess... Or it should say anyone who disagrees with Daxx Khan is wrong:rolleyes:
Anyway, when was the last time Mayweather didnt make the 147 limit?? Enough said!!!!
The fact that Pac is the only guy in the history of boxing to storm through 7 weight classes in an era where PED and designer Roids are the rule rather than exception has raised red flags... I gotta tell you besides Lance Armstrong every other elite athlete who they have been suspicious of have most of the time have been connected to some kind of PED or the evidence has been so overwhelming you would have to be blind not to accept it...
I particularly think that the whole Floyd walked away and Manny kept fighting so Manny should ignore Floyd argument is as short sighted as I have ever heard since this came to fruition...
Where talking about 2 Hall Of Fame fighters who are the 2 best of this generation and hopefully about to engage in the most meanigful fight in the whole history of the sport... Floyd has every reason to be concerned about his legacy in the midst of all the rumors swirling around steroid or PED use..
If there is smoke than there is fire, should be nothing to hide here about blood testing, its not like they are going to take 2 quarts from Pac and weaken him like he is on Chemo or something... Not to mention Floyd is not asking Pac to do anything that he isint going to do either...
Reminds me of Sammy Sosa being accused of doing Roids by a reporter.... Sammy said all take a test now or anytime.. Reporter gets an independent lab lined up and all of a sudden Sosa is mumbling and jumbling without taking a test, and guess what he never failed a drug test either but he wont even snif the hall of fame like the rest of them....
Floyd scared nah, Floyd wants to make sure he is fighting an athlete who is natural at his craft like himself without any enhancements
I am a nut hugger because I don't agree with what Floyd is demanding...
Oh Wait JT gets in like a big man and starts to throw out sarcastic things like...Anyone who doesn't agree with Daxx is wrong...:rolleyes:
It is reasons like that I hardly post here anymore..
Have a good holiday
No I was the nuthugger stepping to the plate
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Floyd is scared and to say different is a Floyd nut hugger....
Those were your quotes and you started the sarcasm I was simply not agreeing with you.
I feel like your ignoring the 800lb gorilla in the room which is Pac having a peculiar run through weights like superman and your 10000000000000% focused on making this all about Mayweather being Satan and the Anti-Christ as usual
PS I dont really post here anymore either for the same reasons you stated ;)
I would be saying the same things regardless of who was fighting (Except for the Floyd is scared part that was just to stir up the Floyd followers)
I just don't think a fighter should be able to dicate terms such as those it is an issue that need be addressed by boxing as a whole...
I mean look at it this way...What if the NFL started to make such demands? The Giants are set to face Dallas and the Coach decides or team owner decides one of the players on the opposing team is just blowing other guys away gaining too much yardage and they want him tested before the game?
Would never happen....Would never be allowed....
I have also spoken against the stupid 10 mil per pound rule...
These guys are getting out of hand for sure
Re: Pacquiao-Mayweather in jeopardy...
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DaxxKahn
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JT Rock
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DaxxKahn
I am a nut hugger because I don't agree with what Floyd is demanding...
Oh Wait JT gets in like a big man and starts to throw out sarcastic things like...Anyone who doesn't agree with Daxx is wrong...:rolleyes:
It is reasons like that I hardly post here anymore..
Have a good holiday
No I was the nuthugger stepping to the plate
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Floyd is scared and to say different is a Floyd nut hugger....
Those were your quotes and you started the sarcasm I was simply not agreeing with you.
I feel like your ignoring the 800lb gorilla in the room which is Pac having a peculiar run through weights like superman and your 10000000000000% focused on making this all about Mayweather being Satan and the Anti-Christ as usual
PS I dont really post here anymore either for the same reasons you stated ;)
I would be saying the same things regardless of who was fighting (Except for the Floyd is scared part that was just to stir up the Floyd followers)
I just don't think a fighter should be able to dicate terms such as those it is an issue that need be addressed by boxing as a whole...
I mean look at it this way...What if the NFL started to make such demands? The Giants are set to face Dallas and the Coach decides or team owner decides one of the players on the opposing team is just blowing other guys away gaining too much yardage and they want him tested before the game?
Would never happen....Would never be allowed....
I have also spoken against the stupid 10 mil per pound rule...
These guys are getting out of hand for sure
I here ya but NFL, MLB, NBA all have unions and sit down and hammer out agreements with the owners. The agreements are put in place for a few years until they sit down and have another collective bargaining agreement
There is also meetings in the off season as well to talk about things..
Boxers are independent contractors who do things on a contract by contract bases. There is no boxers union or organization who work on behalf of boxers as a body. Thats why this is not a big deal. Floyd just like you would be is concerned about his legacy and wants to know that he is fighting a clean opponent, were there is smoke there is fire and Pac has a ton of suspicion attached to him and we have seen that in all other major sports unfortunately most of the time the suspicion is warranted. Pac has an obligation IMO and step up and refute these rumors by doing LEGITIMATE and thorough drug testing
Re: Pacquiao-Mayweather in jeopardy...
I agree its all part of the hype the fight has got to happen
Re: Pacquiao-Mayweather in jeopardy...
Pacquiao is apparently in negotiations to now fight Malignaggi instead. No I'm not joking. I'd really want to see anyone justify this one.
Much thanks to Manny Pacquiao, Freddie Roach, Alex Ariza & Bob Arum. You bastards soured Xmas
Re: Pacquiao-Mayweather in jeopardy...
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JazMerkin
Pacquiao is apparently in negotiations to now fight Malignaggi instead. No I'm not joking. I'd really want to see anyone justify this one.
Much thanks to Manny Pacquiao, Freddie Roach, Alex Ariza & Bob Arum. You bastards soured Xmas
Malignaggi would be the first one I would expect to ask for a stricter drug screen. Even though clearly Malignaggi is a diversion, I agree no way to justify any value of fighting Malignaggi.
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killersheep
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JazMerkin
Pacquiao is apparently in negotiations to now fight Malignaggi instead. No I'm not joking. I'd really want to see anyone justify this one.
Much thanks to Manny Pacquiao, Freddie Roach, Alex Ariza & Bob Arum. You bastards soured Xmas
Malignaggi would be the first one I would expect to ask for a stricter drug screen. Even though clearly Malignaggi is a diversion, I agree no way to justify any value of fighting Malignaggi.
Agreed. I can't see Malignaggi wanting to let up in the drug testing as he has been one of the most outspoken in saying Pac is likely on the juice. In fact now I can see a lot of other opponents wanting the testing being applied to Manny now as his reluctance in this instance is hurting his integrity.
Rather than do it this time and show he is clean, he is being evasive and seemingly also backing out of the biggest money fight in boxing history. He's bakced himself into a box now. Maybe Mayweather was just trying to sling some mud, but Pac's response has ensured that the mud has stuck.
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Well, Arum has said he's negotiating with DiBella, so he's clearly willing to embarass himself & Manny further.
There's also unsubstantiated talk of PBF fighting Martinez. I'll be so pissed if this fight doesn't happen.
I also think it's got to the stage where Pac has to do the full test or there would always be speculation if he won
Re: Pacquiao-Mayweather in jeopardy...
This fight will happen all part of the hype.
Re: Pacquiao-Mayweather in jeopardy...
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JazMerkin
Pacquiao is apparently in negotiations to now fight Malignaggi instead. No I'm not joking. I'd really want to see anyone justify this one.
Much thanks to Manny Pacquiao, Freddie Roach, Alex Ariza & Bob Arum. You bastards soured Xmas
If this goes down, I'm done as a Pacquiao fan.
The guy has so much fans who have so much respect for him and he can't give us a definitive answer? He speaks through a promoter, trainer & conditioning coach?
We've heard from everybody except the one person we need to hear from. He at least owes us that much.
