Wanna make an Ass of yourself and say Klıts can fıght lıke thıs?

No Klit beats any dominant champ

and LOL @ klittards using triangle theories in boxing claiming that if A beat B and B beat C then A will beat C.

Hasim Rahman beat Corrie Sanders who destroyed Wlad ... according to your theory Rahman should beat Wlad as well but Wlad was able to beat Rahman, albeit a shot, nearly crippled version of him.

Another Tyson retard....great

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Another Tyson retard....great

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Tyson would put both sisters in intensive care in the same night

Either Klit beating Iron Mike Tyson is as ridiculous of a notion as a gazelle wounding a lion

Tyson is the lord of boxing and the king of the heavyweights

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Tyson never reigned as long as Wlad has....never even came close

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Tyson never reigned as long as Wlad has....never even came close

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Wlad fights punching bags like Wach, old cruisers like Mormeck, obese slobs like Sam Peter and loses to retired golfers like Corrie Sanders.

Only in this weak era can glass jawed frauds like Wlad "reign"

That back trotting arms out nonsense would spell doom for either klit

Tyson was KOing guys with their guard up .. he went straight through their guard with his tremendous power

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Tyson easily throwing the greatest uppercut in boxing history

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Imagine what kind of damage it would do to Wlad or Vitali

"Imagine "....when that's starts off your argument it's not a valid point you're coming to is it. The last time Tyson was in the ring he was getting KO'd by McBride.

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"Imagine "....when that's starts off your argument it's not a valid point you're coming to is it. The last time Tyson was in the ring he was getting KO'd by McBride.

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Ali last fight was Berbick does not make him any less of a champion than he was.

Master is spot on here with his assertion that the competition level in this era in this division is one of the weakest in its history and imo just behind Marcianos. Now if Wlads legions cant even grapple with that fact then so ends the debate if one can call it that.

Having said that, its not Wlads fault anymore then it was Hopkins in dominating one of the weakest mid divisions in history but these things will be taken into perspective by both fans and historians whether his stalwart fans like it or not.

Heaven forbid that he surpasses Louis.

How did this turn into a tyson thread?

I dont think Wlad needs to fight like the fighters in the video in the original question asked in this thread.

Wlad should fight how he feels comfy to fight.

Boxing is to hit and not get hit and so having a war all the time might not make Wlad any better but could do the opposite and open him up to getting KO again.

That said, i think the point is that Wlad is never going to be that type of aggressive fighter and will always be boring and safe.

Thats his choice.

And he can do it because he is so much bigger/stronger than evveryone else in this weaker post tyson/lennox era.

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"Imagine "....when that's starts off your argument it's not a valid point you're coming to is it. The last time Tyson was in the ring he was getting KO'd by McBride.

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Ali last fight was Berbick does not make him any less of a champion than he was.

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Yes and in the current division Ali is just as relevant as Tyson

i actually fully believe with everyone at their best both klitschkos beat tyson... tyson was too mad and wild to beat wlad... well wlad would need a ref that wasnt on tysons side but i dont see how he would lose to tyson... tyson comes at him wlad leans on him gets the left hand going... slows tyson down and stops him late... wladimir at his best can take a punch and is too smart to fold after one punch in my opinion if he gets hit with a biggish shot he just ties up the smaller tyson leans on him tires him out and eventually starts landing and once he gets the left hook and right straight going tyson is finished....... as for tyson v vitali... tyson should just be happy he never had to go into that fight... in my opinion vitali wins with ease... he just has to much physically and mentally for crazy small tyson

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i actually fully believe with everyone at their best both klitschkos beat tyson... tyson was too mad and wild to beat wlad... well wlad would need a ref that wasnt on tysons side but i dont see how he would lose to tyson... tyson comes at him wlad leans on him gets the left hand going... slows tyson down and stops him late... wladimir at his best can take a punch and is too smart to fold after one punch in my opinion if he gets hit with a biggish shot he just ties up the smaller tyson leans on him tires him out and eventually starts landing and once he gets the left hook and right straight going tyson is finished....... as for tyson v vitali... tyson should just be happy he never had to go into that fight... in my opinion vitali wins with ease... he just has to much physically and mentally for crazy small tyson

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Only in your drug induced hallucinations does Wlad beat Tyson

Tyson had an iron chin and was very difficult to hit, not a stationary punching bag like the bums Wlad fights. Remember how they were telling Wach to move his head when he fought Wlad? Well head movement and the ability to evade punches was Mikes specialty, he himslef said that his defense is why he was impossible to beat. He would plow into Wlads body and throw lethal combos into the body and head. Its clear you have minimal knowledge of the sport if you think Tyson is easy for anyone to beat. Even the Tyson that fought Lewis would shatter Wlads joke of a chin. Prime Tyson was famous for his combinations ... He could throw a 4 punch combo in under a second with each punch having devastating KO power ... He was no one punch fighter back then

If a retired golfers hand speed dumbfounded Wlad then imagine what Mike would do. Tyson was out jabbing tall boxers with long reaches in his prime ... He could probably do the same to either Klit ... Wlad has shown stamina problems before and lost because of it ... He was winning the Brewster fight and lost becuase he couldnt handle Brewsters pressure and aggression and punches himself out trying to keep him away .... And that was with Steward in his corner ... He has shown weakness against powerful punchers, guys with fast hands and speed in general, and guys who have been able to pressure him .... And Mike Tyson was the living emodiment of a fast, powerful, pressure fighter.

The truth is that netheir klit has the inside or mid range fighting ability to beat Mike ... Both hold like octipii as soon as anyone moves in range .. And Tyson would navigate his way around and underneath their jabs and straight hands into firing range and then unload deadly combos ... Even the guys that held against Mike had to take serious punishment, like Mitch Green who held and tried to just survive with Mike (simply surviving with Tyson was seen as a victory back then) lost some teeth.

Watch Tyson vs Lou Saverese to see a preview of Wlad vs Tyson and Tyson vs David Jaco for Vitali vs Tyson

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i actually fully believe with everyone at their best both klitschkos beat tyson... tyson was too mad and wild to beat wlad... well wlad would need a ref that wasnt on tysons side but i dont see how he would lose to tyson... tyson comes at him wlad leans on him gets the left hand going... slows tyson down and stops him late... wladimir at his best can take a punch and is too smart to fold after one punch in my opinion if he gets hit with a biggish shot he just ties up the smaller tyson leans on him tires him out and eventually starts landing and once he gets the left hook and right straight going tyson is finished....... as for tyson v vitali... tyson should just be happy he never had to go into that fight... in my opinion vitali wins with ease... he just has to much physically and mentally for crazy small tyson

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Only in your drug induced hallucinations does Wlad beat Tyson

Tyson had an iron chin and was very difficult to hit, not a stationary punching bag like the bums Wlad fights. Remember how they were telling Wach to move his head when he fought Wlad? Well head movement and the ability to evade punches was Mikes specialty, he himslef said that his defense is why he was impossible to beat. He would plow into Wlads body and throw lethal combos into the body and head. Its clear you have minimal knowledge of the sport if you think Tyson is easy for anyone to beat. Even the Tyson that fought Lewis would shatter Wlads joke of a chin. Prime Tyson was famous for his combinations ... He could throw a 4 punch combo in under a second with each punch having devastating KO power ... He was no one punch fighter back then

If a retired golfers hand speed dumbfounded Wlad then imagine what Mike would do. Tyson was out jabbing tall boxers with long reaches in his prime ... He could probably do the same to either Klit ... Wlad has shown stamina problems before and lost because of it ... He was winning the Brewster fight and lost becuase he couldnt handle Brewsters pressure and aggression and punches himself out trying to keep him away .... And that was with Steward in his corner ... He has shown weakness against powerful punchers, guys with fast hands and speed in general, and guys who have been able to pressure him .... And Mike Tyson was the living emodiment of a fast, powerful, pressure fighter.

The truth is that netheir klit has the inside or mid range fighting ability to beat Mike ... Both hold like octipii as soon as anyone moves in range .. And Tyson would navigate his way around and underneath their jabs and straight hands into firing range and then unload deadly combos ... Even the guys that held against Mike had to take serious punishment, like Mitch Green who held and tried to just survive with Mike (simply surviving with Tyson was seen as a victory back then) lost some teeth.

Watch Tyson vs Lou Saverese to see a preview of Wlad vs Tyson and Tyson vs David Jaco for Vitali vs Tyson

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In complete agreement as far as Wlad is concerned. But I think you're making a mistake by lumping Vitali together with Wlad, and by doing so are ignoring two critical factors: chin and fear. Wlad's chin is universally known to be weak. Vitali's chin is a hell of a lot better. Think of his fight with Lewis, not a bad puncher himself. Vitali gave as good as he got, and it's anybody's guess how the fight would've developed had Vitali not suffered that ugly gash over the eye. Fear is the other factor. Whereas Wlad fights with a fear of getting tagged, Vitali is completely different. Wlad's fights have been so ugly because he's terrified of getting that chin tapped. Think of the Sultan fight, one of the ugliest HW fights on record (until the Haye fight, that is). Mindful of Sultan's supposed one-punch power, Wlad stayed away all night, turning the fight into a boring "paw-fest" whose recording should be burned, never to be seen again.

I'm not saying Vitali beats a prime Tyson. I'm just saying he'd have a hell of a better chance. He's big and heavy. He doesn't prance around like Wlad. Robotic or not, Vitali would've used his big body to try and wear down Tyson. Tyson would hit Vitali with some shots, but would have to take some in return. That in itself would slow Tyson down just a bit in the later rounds.

Anyone who think's the klit's would beat tyson in he's prime must be deluded.He would destroy the pair of them and make it look easy.

LOL. Yet another Klitschko Smear Job! Is'nt the problem really that the fighters from the United States of America (Black fighters in general in fact!) no longer have a stranglehold on it? Hence a fighter who was imprisoned 2 decades ago and who's last good(ish) win was in the mid 90's is constantly brought back up! Laughable. It's been a decade now of K2 dominance! Your whining and questioning of there ability just makes u look more pathetic as the years go by.

I think the K2 hate stem's from the fear that they would have threatened ones own heroes. Tyson was borederline retarded. Tyson walking through VK is retarded too. Young wlad maybe! Prime wlad....i doubt it!

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