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Horrible Bosses - Thought it was toilet other than Jennifer Aniston acting naughty.
Bolt - Pixar, Brilliant as always, nuff said.
Rise of the planet of the apes - Caesar rocks but the film meh.
Hang Over 2 - fell aseep through most of it.
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Cowboys and Aliens . I actually thought it was pretty good - though maybe thats because I expected it to be complete and utter pants :-\
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Watched Alvin and the Chipmunks in the cinema, what has the actor done to himself, he use to be funny.
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A good old fashion Orgy - Thought is was pretty funny... I really laughed the whole way through.
In Time - Thought it was a bit short but it was a really good movie overall. I liked the storyline. (Would have been good to add a sex scene with Amanda Seyfried)
Warrior - It was a lot better than I expected it to be. However I have an issue with the final fight scene. I just found it absurd that, that would happen. Don't know about the rest of you but I wouldn't go through with it.
Straw Dogs - It was ok, I mean it's worth watching and it's entertaining.
was it the remake of straw dogs? I aint seen eitther of them but was just wondered?
Yeah it was the remake...
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I just watched 'One flew over the cuckoo's nest' and thought it was really good. One thing that struck me was how lax the security was, we really have become a totalitarian world with our security cameras and weaponized staff. You can't even go to school without going through a metal detector and there are these mentalists being able to sneak women into the hospital. But in terms of characters and story alone, I really enjoyed it.
I think it would be fascinating to go into a mental hospital and be fly on the wall for a day, but a day would be quite enough.
:vd: miles, I'm not sure how you do things in Korea, but I'm quite certain the staff and guards at mental institutions in the United States remain unarmed for many reasons #1 The patients are just that, they are to be treated as they would be treated in a regular hospital #2 If there was a fight or riot in such a place you would not want a mentally unstable person to use your weapon against you....which is why even prison guards don't carry guns.
Also electro-shock therapy is actually quite helpful to people suffering from extreme cases of depression...the way it was portrayed in 'One Flew Over The Cookoo's Nest' is downright wrong, it's NOT a punishment, it's a therapy. And I'm fairly certain labotamies aren't performed all willy nilly as they suggest as well.
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I just watched 'One flew over the cuckoo's nest' and thought it was really good. One thing that struck me was how lax the security was, we really have become a totalitarian world with our security cameras and weaponized staff. You can't even go to school without going through a metal detector and there are these mentalists being able to sneak women into the hospital. But in terms of characters and story alone, I really enjoyed it.
I think it would be fascinating to go into a mental hospital and be fly on the wall for a day, but a day would be quite enough.
:vd: miles, I'm not sure how you do things in Korea, but I'm quite certain the staff and guards at mental institutions in the United States remain unarmed for many reasons #1 The patients are just that, they are to be treated as they would be treated in a regular hospital #2 If there was a fight or riot in such a place you would not want a mentally unstable person to use your weapon against you....which is why even prison guards don't carry guns.
Also electro-shock therapy is actually quite helpful to people suffering from extreme cases of depression...the way it was portrayed in 'One Flew Over The Cookoo's Nest' is downright wrong, it's NOT a punishment, it's a therapy. And I'm fairly certain labotamies aren't performed all willy nilly as they suggest as well.
Armed as in a baton for self defense. Security is security. I am not talking troops with bazooka's. Security was incredibly lax. That kind of thing just couldn't happen today. There are still criminals amongst the patients as in Nicholson's character. As we see, it is easy to get them out of the hospital and easy to smuggle people in. Extremely lax and perhaps a bit unrealistic.
EST is also extremely harmful too. Memory loss and cognitive damage are common consequences. It is arguably a therapy, but one that perhaps causes a lot more harm than good. And let's not forget how painful the procedure must be. It is no coincidence that you regard what many patients regard as torture as a therapy. It's an extremely controversial practice and it is no coincidence that it is used extremely rarely as compared with the past.
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Armed as in a baton for self defense. Security is security. I am not talking troops with bazooka's. Security was incredibly lax. That kind of thing just couldn't happen today. There are still criminals amongst the patients as in Nicholson's character. As we see, it is easy to get them out of the hospital and easy to smuggle people in. Extremely lax and perhaps a bit unrealistic.
EST is also extremely harmful too. Memory loss and cognitive damage are common consequences. It is arguably a therapy, but one that perhaps causes a lot more harm than good. And let's not forget how painful the procedure must be. It is no coincidence that you regard what many patients regard as torture as a therapy. It's an extremely controversial practice and it is no coincidence that it is used extremely rarely as compared with the past.
#1 It's a movie...a fictional movie
#2 Electroconvulsive therapy (ECT) - MayoClinic.com
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Armed as in a baton for self defense. Security is security. I am not talking troops with bazooka's. Security was incredibly lax. That kind of thing just couldn't happen today. There are still criminals amongst the patients as in Nicholson's character. As we see, it is easy to get them out of the hospital and easy to smuggle people in. Extremely lax and perhaps a bit unrealistic.
EST is also extremely harmful too. Memory loss and cognitive damage are common consequences. It is arguably a therapy, but one that perhaps causes a lot more harm than good. And let's not forget how painful the procedure must be. It is no coincidence that you regard what many patients regard as torture as a therapy. It's an extremely controversial practice and it is no coincidence that it is used extremely rarely as compared with the past.
#1 It's a movie...a fictional movie
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Electroconvulsive therapy (ECT) - MayoClinic.com
1. True, and therefore the lack of realism
2. That's a better acronym, though research suggests that the majority of patients are against it and most people are against it. Arguably the negatives outweigh the positives too. It is a very controversial method of 'treatment'.
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1. True, and therefore the lack of realism
2. That's a better acronym, though research suggests that the majority of patients are against it and most people are against it. Arguably the negatives outweigh the positives too. It is a very controversial method of 'treatment'.
1. Yes and therefore why are you complaining?
2. You are wrong on all accounts
A) "The Majority of Patients are against it" - patients MUST give their permission to even be considered to receive the treatment
B) "The negatives outweight the positives" - Subduing deep depression when drugs and therapy don't work is a HUGE positive. And had you taken time to read the article it would also have informed you that memory loss, injuries, etc are not an issue among patients when sedated during the treatment.
C) It is controversial only in how it's portrayed by Hollywood and in the imaginations of people that do not know about it.
I would ask you to cite your resources, but I doubt they carry more weight than the Mayo Clinic
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1. True, and therefore the lack of realism
2. That's a better acronym, though research suggests that the majority of patients are against it and most people are against it. Arguably the negatives outweigh the positives too. It is a very controversial method of 'treatment'.
1. Yes and therefore why are you complaining?
2. You are wrong on all accounts
A) "The Majority of Patients are against it" - patients
MUST give their permission to even be considered to receive the treatment
B) "The negatives outweight the positives" - Subduing deep depression when drugs and therapy don't work is a HUGE positive. And had you taken time to read the article it would also have informed you that memory loss, injuries, etc are not an issue among patients when sedated during the treatment.
C) It is controversial only in how it's portrayed by Hollywood and in the imaginations of people that do not know about it.
I would ask you to cite your resources, but I doubt they carry more weight than the Mayo Clinic
1. I'm not complaining. I said I thought it was a good film. The security leaps were extremely unrealistic though and it was you that took issue with me pointing it out. You must agree that to breach security as shown in the film is unrealistic. I don't even know why we are debating that. A bit silly. It doesn't detract from the film which is fun (but also really sad).
2. My arguments are from Wikipedia. They point out the positives and negatives, but the negatives seem to outweigh the positives. I know Wiki is not an ideal source, but that is where I am from. I will concede being wrong on part A as I read it this afternoon and confused the information due to forgetting what I had read. On part B certainly in the past there have been a lot of negatives, clearly as you point out the treatment has evolved.
Admittedly I am not arguing a topic on which I claim to profess any vast knowledge and my own additional knowledge of individuals like Sylvia Plath and Lou Reed who underwent treatment come from biographies I read long ago. I think they quote Plath on Wiki, but I don't remember. They obviously received treatment long ago and Reed certainly did not want to undergo the treatment. His parents made him as they wanted to stop him having homosexual thoughts.
I'm partially right, but I will concede the parts where I'm wrong. I tried clicking your link, but it wasn't working before. It is working now.
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Warhorse. Didn't rate it, and the horse annoyed me. First of all he goes into battle against the Germans, loses his rider, who dies. He is then captured by the Germans and changes sides. I know he's just a horse but I found that really annoying. Then he deserts. He gets recaptured and unlike deserting soldiers the Germans don't kill him but give him another chance. Cheeky fucker only deserts again!
So the British get him back and hes reunited with his Forest Gump style original owner. But only after being bought at auction by some weird old French dude. The horse was quite happy to go off with him too. The old man has a change of heart at the last minute and gives him back to the boy who raised him, but quite honestly if I was that kid I'd have told that horse to go fuck himself. No loyalty to anyone whatsoever and just went wherever he was led. Didnt get the film at all.