Re: What's the biggest boxing robbery of all time.
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Originally Posted by slk123
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
Julio Cesar Chavez vs Juan La Porte
James Toney vs Dave Tiberi.
Hey ICE, that's your 3rd JCC fight mentioned on this post. He must make your list of all time least favorite fighters.
Oh! oh!
They're on to you ICB. ;D
I like to think that the JCC vs. Pernell fight was just too hard to call I mean look at the rounds and look at who was the agressor, look at who was the more elusive, the one who fought entire rounds, the one who used more ring genralship.
How many times does the JCC-MT stoppage need to be disscused?
Going by the rules, which is what Steele is supposed to do cause hes ref. he did the right thing. Hes not a time keeper he is the ref.
A fighter got knocked down, he began to count he saw the fighter was hurt so he took the next rule.
Steele: Are you OK? Are you OK?
No answer from MT Steele looks at him again and waives it off.
By the rules of the sport MT lost, in peoples hearts he was robbed.
Unfortunately theres a difference there.
1 is a reality the other is an emotion.
Re: What's the biggest boxing robbery of all time.
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Originally Posted by CutMeMick
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Originally Posted by slk123
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
Julio Cesar Chavez vs Juan La Porte
James Toney vs Dave Tiberi.
Hey ICE, that's your 3rd JCC fight mentioned on this post. He must make your list of all time least favorite fighters.
Oh! oh!
They're on to you ICB. ;D
I like to think that the JCC vs. Pernell fight was just too hard to call I mean look at the rounds and look at who was the agressor, look at who was the more elusive, the one who fought entire rounds, the one who used more ring genralship.
How many times does the JCC-MT stoppage need to be disscused?
Going by the rules, which is what Steele is supposed to do cause hes ref. he did the right thing. Hes not a time keeper he is the ref.
A fighter got knocked down, he began to count he saw the fighter was hurt so he took the next rule.
Steele: Are you OK? Are you OK?
No answer from MT Steele looks at him again and waives it off.
By the rules of the sport MT lost, in peoples hearts he was robbed.
Unfortunately theres a difference there.
1 is a reality the other is an emotion.
Well said. Sometimes, we as fans, get so emotionally involved with our fighter that we forget that it's sometimes better for our fighter to lost immediately than be punished gravely.
We should also consider our fighter like any ordinary human. They can be permanently damaged if the referee allows them to be a human punching bag.
Re: What's the biggest boxing robbery of all time.
Holyfield Lewis 1 is the one that pops up in my head. How can you beat the shit out of someone for 12 rounds and walk away with a draw.
Re: What's the biggest boxing robbery of all time.
Winky wright v.s Taylor
watch that fight again and tell me if Taylor deserved a draw. Wright won it clearly.
Re: What's the biggest boxing robbery of all time.
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Originally Posted by brucelee
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Originally Posted by CutMeMick
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Originally Posted by slk123
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
Julio Cesar Chavez vs Juan La Porte
James Toney vs Dave Tiberi.
Hey ICE, that's your 3rd JCC fight mentioned on this post. He must make your list of all time least favorite fighters.
Oh! oh!
They're on to you ICB. ;D
I like to think that the JCC vs. Pernell fight was just too hard to call I mean look at the rounds and look at who was the agressor, look at who was the more elusive, the one who fought entire rounds, the one who used more ring genralship.
How many times does the JCC-MT stoppage need to be disscused?
Going by the rules, which is what Steele is supposed to do cause hes ref. he did the right thing. Hes not a time keeper he is the ref.
A fighter got knocked down, he began to count he saw the fighter was hurt so he took the next rule.
Steele: Are you OK? Are you OK?
No answer from MT Steele looks at him again and waives it off.
By the rules of the sport MT lost, in peoples hearts he was robbed.
Unfortunately theres a difference there.
1 is a reality the other is an emotion.
Well said. Sometimes, we as fans, get so emotionally involved with our fighter that we forget that it's sometimes better for our fighter to lost immediately than be punished gravely.
We should also consider our fighter like any ordinary human. They can be permanently damaged if the referee allows them to be a human punching bag.
Thanks, and believe me I know that all to well.
There was a point in time where I would get to emotional with fights and the outcome of fights.
I've entered a rehab center and I'm doing better now.
:)
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Originally Posted by ChuckNorris
Holyfield Lewis 1 is the one that pops up in my head. How can you beat the shit out of someone for 12 rounds and walk away with a draw.
Good call on this one.
Re: What's the biggest boxing robbery of all time.
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Originally Posted by CutMeMick
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Originally Posted by slk123
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
Julio Cesar Chavez vs Juan La Porte
James Toney vs Dave Tiberi.
Hey ICE, that's your 3rd JCC fight mentioned on this post. He must make your list of all time least favorite fighters.
Oh! oh!
They're on to you ICB. ;D
I like to think that the JCC vs. Pernell fight was just too hard to call I mean look at the rounds and look at who was the agressor, look at who was the more elusive, the one who fought entire rounds, the one who used more ring genralship.
How many times does the JCC-MT stoppage need to be disscused?
Going by the rules, which is what Steele is supposed to do cause hes ref. he did the right thing. Hes not a time keeper he is the ref.
A fighter got knocked down, he began to count he saw the fighter was hurt so he took the next rule.
Steele: Are you OK? Are you OK?
No answer from MT Steele looks at him again and waives it off.
By the rules of the sport MT lost, in peoples hearts he was robbed.
Unfortunately theres a difference there.
1 is a reality the other is an emotion.
Chavez got schooled Mick your excellent poster but this is were we disagree completey the first 6 rounds were close i had them even after 6 rounds then Whitaker really pulled away and won by 3 rounds on my scorecard even Chavez's fans knew Chavez lost i seem to remember them booing the decision and staying silent through out the fight because of how much Whitaker schooled Chavez i don't really want to get into the Taylor vs Chavez debate like i said two sides to the story i believe Taylor got robbed you believe it was fair lets leave it at that and whats your views on Juan La Porte vs Chavez ?? La Porte deserved to win my eyes and alot of people agree.
Re: What's the biggest boxing robbery of all time.
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Originally Posted by Eli_jr24
Winky wright v.s Taylor
watch that fight again and tell me if Taylor deserved a draw. Wright won it clearly.
Well yes he did Wright didn't do anything in last round and left it in the hands of the judges it was very close fight certainly not a fight i would call a robbery.
Re: What's the biggest boxing robbery of all time.
Seems to be many votes for Holyfield Lewis 1...
+1.
Re: What's the biggest boxing robbery of all time.
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Originally Posted by brazilianbomber
I am sure that there will be many different opinions on this subject but I have to go with Pernell Whitaker Vs Julio Ceasar Chavez even though I am sure the Oscar fans will say the Tito fight.
Wilfedo Vasquez V's Carlos Rios. The worst decision of all time.
Re: What's the biggest boxing robbery of all time.
Lewis V Holyfield 1....Lewis clearly won this fight, i had it 116-112 ! Result Draw
Lewis v Holyfield 2....Holyfield clearly won this fight, i had it 117-111 ! Result Lewis UD
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Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN
Lewis V Holyfield 1....Lewis clearly won this fight, i had it 116-112 ! Result Draw
Lewis v Holyfield 2....Holyfield clearly won this fight, i had it 117-111 ! Result Lewis UD
I had Lewis winning both fights, but the second one by a smaller margin.
Re: What's the biggest boxing robbery of all time.
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Originally Posted by ChuckNorris
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Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN
Lewis V Holyfield 1....Lewis clearly won this fight, i had it 116-112 ! Result Draw
Lewis v Holyfield 2....Holyfield clearly won this fight, i had it 117-111 ! Result Lewis UD
I had Lewis winning both fights, but the second one by a smaller margin.
Yeah Lewis won both
When I think of the biggets robberies I think of Barrera - Morales 1 and Lewis- Holyfield 1 . Both were avenged so its all good
Re: What's the biggest boxing robbery of all time.
what about Holyfield getting robbed in the olympics
or Roy Jones getting robbed in the Olympics
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Max Schmeling-Jack Sharkey II
Kid Diamond - Miguel Angel Huerta
Re: What's the biggest boxing robbery of all time.
most of sven ottke world titles wins...
De la hoya v sturm...
