Hatton v Cotto@147-what do you think?

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Originally Posted by The Grinch

This is true ;D
Im only saying that cause i see it on Boxrec...

Any vids? Never actually seen that fight.

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Beautifull stuff!

Mind you, im sure Hattons bigger and tougher than that.

It shows you though... If you chase him, he fights...
Dela Hoya is gonna do some serious damage man :-\

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Originally Posted by Memphis

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

He stop Jesus Chavez. Very similar style to Hatton. Without the fouls that is

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Would that be Jesus Chavez the super featherweight or?

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Or what? Is there another Jesus Chavez that's any good?

Well this is whats confusing, if Floyd had halted a big strong light welterweight then I see your point. As he didnt, you dont have one.

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Originally Posted by Memphis

Well this is whats confusing, if Floyd had halted a big strong light welterweight then I see your point. As he didnt, you dont have one.

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Maybe Mayweather should face an overrated paper champion who actually lost his last fight like Urango.

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I've only seen clips from like 8 or 9 of Ricky's fights, but I have yet to see one where he doesn't hold and hit, until someone shows me one that shows me the contrary, I won't change my mind.

And Miguel's ability to destroy a natural WW shows more than he can beat Quintana, it shows his skill set and power has not diminished on the move up. Hatton's move-up was not as impressive and until you see him fight someone else at WW (with adequate preperation of-course) I don't see how you could pick Hatton over Cotto at this point.

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I don't see how you can pick Cotto over Hatton after only seeing a few clips of Ricky :headscratch:

Your opinion is completely subjective then as your basing purely on seeing one fighter.

You won't change your mind cos ignorance is bliss. That's not a slight you understand but it's difficult to argue a point regarding these two now knowing that you actually don't know any different.

Lets stick to Cotto cos for me the Hatton debate ends here.

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I have seen enough of both fighters to make my own personal educated conclusion based on what I have witnessed from both fighters.
Folks are not even debating the issue with clarity or respect to the thread.
Hatton v Cotto@147-what do you think?

The following fights I own and have watched more than once each. I like both of these fighters very very much.

Ricky Hatton
http://boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=9314

Hatton vs Peacock
Hatton vs Paul
Hatton vs Winters
Hatton vs Garces
Hatton vs Figuereos
Hatton vs Quiros
Hatton vs Lauri
Hatton vs Thanxton
Hatton vs Pep
Hatton vs Roland
Hatton vs Bailey
Hatton vs Pendledton
Hatton vs Rowsel
Hatton vs Magee
Hatton vs Smith
Hatton vs Hutchenson
Hatton vs Philips
Hatton vs Rios
Hatton vs Tackie
Hatton vs Vilches
Hatton vs Stewart
Hatton vs Olivera
Hatton vs Tszyu
Hatton vs Maussa
Hatton vs Collazo


Miguel Angel Cotto
http://boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=33535

Cotto vs RICARDO VIVELLA
Cotto vs MOHAMED ABDULAEV
Cotto vs JASON DOUCET
Cotto vs JACOB GODINEZ
COTTO VS RUDOLFO LUNSFORD
COTTO VS ARTURO RODRIGUEZ
COTTO VS JOSHUA SMITH
Cotto vs SAMMY SPARKMAN
COTTO VS JOHN BROWN
Cotto vs UBALDO HERNANDEZ
Cotto vs CESAR BAZAN
Cotto vs JOEL PEREZ
Cotto vs ROCKY MARTINEZ
Cotto vs DEMETRIO CEBALLOS
Cotto vs CARLOS MAUSSA
Cotto vs VICTORIANO SOSA
Cotto vs LOVEMORE N'DOU
Cotto vs KELSON PINTO
Cotto vs DEMARCUS CORLEY
Cotto vs MOHAMMAD ABDULAEV
Cotto vs RICARDO TORRES
Cotto vs RANDALL BAILEY
COTTO VS GIANLUCA BRANCO
Cotto vs Malignaggi
Cotto vs Quintana

Both Miguel Cotto and Ricky Hatton have tomatoes in their first ten matches. That is the way the game begins.

Both fighters have decent resumes.

Both fighters have taken out fighters which Floyd Mayweather could not.

Side Note:
Floyd Mayweather later went around beating fighters that Kostya Tszyu beat down.

My honest assessment is that the early Cotto even though he would be less experienced at the time could give Ricky a hell of a fight.
I am talking about the Cotto of 2004 Light Welterweight.
The Cotto of 2006 Light Welterweight (drained and struggling to make weight) would get sparked by Ricky. (sorry cotto) :-[ I still would not count my boy out because of that punchers chance.

But this is about Cotto vs Hatton @ Welter Weight 147.

Cotto can hack it at 147. he proved that last week. Ricky made a conscience decision dropping back down to 140 and by doing so, tells the world especially himself that he is not the same Ricky Hatton at 147 that he is @ 140. and this speaks volume. In closing Ricky can not hack it at 147 and thus gets beat down by Cotto in the Welter Weight Division. How can I not come up with any other conclusion based on both fighters debut performances. Until Ricky comes back to 147 and shows something more than he did against Collazo, I have to rest my case.

Ruling goes to Cotto by KO over Ricky Hatton @ 147.

Case closed and court is dismissed.

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CC 253!! Thats it folks!!
Hatton beats Cotto at 140 but thats not Cotto anymore. Cotto is 147 and he beats Ricky at 147 because Ricky is not Ricky at 147. PHEW!

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

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Originally Posted by Memphis

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

He stop Jesus Chavez. Very similar style to Hatton. Without the fouls that is

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Would that be Jesus Chavez the super featherweight or?

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Or what? Is there another Jesus Chavez that's any good?

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Jesus Chavez style is nothing like Hatton.

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Originally Posted by yoitsdan

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

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Originally Posted by Memphis

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

He stop Jesus Chavez. Very similar style to Hatton. Without the fouls that is

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Would that be Jesus Chavez the super featherweight or?

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Or what? Is there another Jesus Chavez that's any good?

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Jesus Chavez style is nothing like Hatton.

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Agreed... The only other thing I can say is Mayweather has gotten way better since that fight which is scary...His defense and shoulder rolls have gotten that much better.... It would be one hell of a fight if they finally got together ;)

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Originally Posted by JT Rock

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Originally Posted by yoitsdan

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

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Originally Posted by Memphis

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

He stop Jesus Chavez. Very similar style to Hatton. Without the fouls that is

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Would that be Jesus Chavez the super featherweight or?

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Or what? Is there another Jesus Chavez that's any good?

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Jesus Chavez style is nothing like Hatton.

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Agreed... The only other thing I can say is Mayweather has gotten way better since that fight which is scary...His defense and shoulder rolls have gotten that much better.... It would be one hell of a fight if they finally got together ;)

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Disagree. Hatton doesn't win a single round.

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

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Originally Posted by Memphis

Well this is whats confusing, if Floyd had halted a big strong light welterweight then I see your point. As he didnt, you dont have one.

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Maybe Mayweather should face an overrated paper champion who actually lost his last fight like Urango.

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Judah?

At 147 or 140,after seeing Floyd's last few fights,NO FOOKING WAY he stops Hatton and he has never faced anyone with the intensity,with the pace and ferocity of Hatton. Hatton would bang him to thebody like no one else has and although I'd favour Floyd to win,I DO not see a stoppage,no way. I mean if Floyd is going to break his hands after throwing a handful of pot shots at Baldo which landed mostly on his face not his head,how is he going to stop Hatton?

I DO believe that Floyd would win though but it would make for a good fight possibly slightly scruffy.

Fact: Cotto beats Hatton @ 147 (Due to Hattons weight)
Fact: Hatton beats Cotto @ 140 (Due to Cottos weight)

I say they meet half way at 143-1/2 lbs..... 8)

Hatton has trouble staying at 140 as well...let us not forget that.


I just think it's a fight everyone deserves to see, Hatton fans, Cotto fans, fans of neither fighter....it would be an awesome fight

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Originally Posted by Lyle

Hatton has trouble staying at 140 as well...let us not forget that.


I just think it's a fight everyone deserves to see, Hatton fans, Cotto fans, fans of neither fighter....it would be an awesome fight

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If Hatton has trouble staying at 140, I wonder why he's going back down. Must be a reason...
I would have to agree with you a very good fight nevertheless. I would think Cotto, but both fighters will get hit often.

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Originally Posted by Lyle

Hatton has trouble staying at 140 as well...let us not forget that.


I just think it's a fight everyone deserves to see, Hatton fans, Cotto fans, fans of neither fighter....it would be an awesome fight

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He's never looked close to struggling, it may happen soon, but for now he's so strong at the weight.