Tavoris Cloud vs. Bernard Hopkins - Saturday night chat/fight thread

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Originally Posted by Jimanuel Boogustus

Hopkins is a great fighter - maybe even a living legend (he's old enough), but top 5 talk is crazy. I mean, you can give him a glowing report but the same can be done for dozens of other fighters.

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What he has done is unprecedented as well as the manner in which he accomplished it. Love him or hate him, dirty/tricky fighter or not. Personally I cant stand him but I certainly respect him for what he has accomplished. Historians of all walks of life will be taking a serious look at their atg top 10 lists if they are objective in the least.

*I respect him... BUT becuz he's still fighting and beating b level fighters doesn't give him a top 10... Hop lost to every major fighter he fought that wasn't smaller than him... sure he beat DLH and Tito... at middle... lost to Cal, Jones, Dawson, Taylor twice... not very impressive if ur top 10
... personally, i think Marquez and Pac are more impressive in the all time great list... and Marquez is still fighting at the highest level.
...Mayweather..like him or not, he'll rank higher than Hop.
...Andre Ward will prob end up higher than Hop as well when it's all over.

all im saying is Hop is not a top 10...

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Originally Posted by IamInuit

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Originally Posted by Jimanuel Boogustus

Hopkins is a great fighter - maybe even a living legend (he's old enough), but top 5 talk is crazy. I mean, you can give him a glowing report but the same can be done for dozens of other fighters.

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What he has done is unprecedented as well as the manner in which he accomplished it. Love him or hate him, dirty/tricky fighter or not. Personally I cant stand him but I certainly respect him for what he has accomplished. Historians of all walks of life will be taking a serious look at their atg top 10 lists if they are objective in the least.

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Fine but top 5? Really?!