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I dont understand this narative either. It's a shop worn response but where does anyone mention that these people filling vital roles would be at risk? It's as if the UKIP goon squad are going to be kicking down theatre doors mid bypass so they can round up and throw Jonny Nignog on the next boat home.Quote:
Originally Posted by Greenbeanz
Madness.
Miles pointing out that somebody like a surgeon is more qualified than you is not running you down.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
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Originally Posted by GreenbeanzMiles pointing out that somebody like a surgeon is more qualified than you is not running you down.Also if you as an Immigrant teach Nurses to speak a second language then surely you are part of what you see as a problem ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
Yes they do actually mate. If you look at what people standing for UKIP say, they just lump everyone into the same boat and generalise.Quote:
Originally Posted by MemphisI dont understand this narative either. It's a shop worn response but where does anyone mention that these people filling vital roles would be at risk? It's as if the UKIP goon squad are going to be kicking down theatre doors mid bypass so they can round up and throw Jonny Nignog on the next boat home.Quote:
Originally Posted by Greenbeanz
Madness.
At least he's smiling, God bless 'im.
One of my sourounding UKIP members is Black, the other one Russian, and both women!!!! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by GreenbeanzYes they do actually mate. If you look at what people standing for UKIP say, they just lump everyone into the same boat and generalise.Quote:
Originally Posted by MemphisI dont understand this narative either. It's a shop worn response but where does anyone mention that these people filling vital roles would be at risk? It's as if the UKIP goon squad are going to be kicking down theatre doors mid bypass so they can round up and throw Jonny Nignog on the next boat home.Quote:
Originally Posted by Greenbeanz
Madness.
In all seriousness I cant know the thoughts of every UKIP member on immigration. The picture being painted publicly though is to me at least one of fairness.
Some of the most racist people I have ever met have been Immigrants or people with foreign wives. One does not preclude the other.;DQuote:
Originally Posted by MemphisOne of my sourounding UKIP members is Black, the other one Russian, and both women!!!! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by GreenbeanzYes they do actually mate. If you look at what people standing for UKIP say, they just lump everyone into the same boat and generalise.Quote:
Originally Posted by MemphisI dont understand this narative either. It's a shop worn response but where does anyone mention that these people filling vital roles would be at risk? It's as if the UKIP goon squad are going to be kicking down theatre doors mid bypass so they can round up and throw Jonny Nignog on the next boat home.Quote:
Originally Posted by Greenbeanz
Madness.
In all seriousness I cant know the thoughts of every UKIP member on immigration. The picture being painted publicly though is to me at least one of fairness.
Nevertheless, you'd have to conceeed that 2 women, 1 black and 1 Russian must be at odds with the collective sexist racist anti EU UKIP mo?Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenbeanzSome of the most racist people I have ever met have been Immigrants or people with foreign wives. One does not preclude the other.;DQuote:
Originally Posted by MemphisOne of my sourounding UKIP members is Black, the other one Russian, and both women!!!! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by GreenbeanzYes they do actually mate. If you look at what people standing for UKIP say, they just lump everyone into the same boat and generalise.Quote:
Originally Posted by MemphisI dont understand this narative either. It's a shop worn response but where does anyone mention that these people filling vital roles would be at risk? It's as if the UKIP goon squad are going to be kicking down theatre doors mid bypass so they can round up and throw Jonny Nignog on the next boat home.Quote:
Originally Posted by Greenbeanz
Madness.
In all seriousness I cant know the thoughts of every UKIP member on immigration. The picture being painted publicly though is to me at least one of fairness.
We all make mistakes mate :)Quote:
Originally Posted by ryanmanand to think I thought you were alright ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Memphis
If you really believed that about Greenbeanz - About his mental illness you have diagnosed and his abject misery (mentioned multiple times) wouldn't you be a total cunt for taunting him with it?Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
Why do the Brits make UKIP out to be the second coming of the Nazis?
Can you not beat them on the field of ideas? Must you call names?
They are a party that is contradictory, opportunistic and with no real substance.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
They are an anti-political protest party. Many people find that attractive.
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Originally Posted by MasterThey are a party that is contradictory, opportunistic and with no real substance.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
They are an anti-political protest party. Many people find that attractive.
Expand please Master. Staccato sound bites don't really mean a lot. You could apply most of what you just said to any party.
I think it's three fold.
1. People don't like change, change is bad!
2. It's easy to follow the beaten path and brand them all racists.
3. UKIP have made 2. very easy on occasions by saying stupid shit.
The big two parties are jointly responsible for more misery, more fuck ups than you can shake a stick at over decades and decades. It's worrying that people are happy to accept or ignore it in the name of not rocking the boat, obligation, whatever else you care to add
The trouble is UKIP do not offer a real alternative. They take the worst ideas rejected by the admittedly hypocritical and useless main two parties and pretend that is some kind of manifesto. They are terrified of change and seek to roll back Britain to the 1970s.
Yet if that isn't their opinion - that leaving the EU fixes everything, then what are their other policies?Quote:
Originally Posted by MemphisYes I watched it. Master that's just not right is it. No one talked about banning immigration and no one talked about leaving the EU as a fix all make everyone's dreams come true solution.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterYou are entitled to an opinion and I would encourage everyone to vote especially you as it is your first time. Did you watch the debate UKIP solution to everything is ban immigration, get out of the EU and everything will be alright.Quote:
Originally Posted by Memphis
They certainly don't articulate any other policies. I wonder if they have any that are remotely fleshed out. Therefore it does seem that they do in fact think that leaving the EU is going to fix things by itself.
Also, you have to question the priorities of the man and his party when he has stated that 'the first thing I'd do' is to deal with immigrants that are HIV positive.
The first fucking thing?? That relates to about 4000 people a year (that's his figures).
I'm sorry but if that is the thing more than anything else you feel you have to sort out then to my mind you are coming from a place of prejudice and hate and not the national interest.
Or could an intelligent rational person agree with him that that should be priority number one for the next government?
He hasn't just said this once he has said it multiple times over the last year.