It’s like the state run media protecting someone. I stand in awe at my country and now Schiff is on TV talking kremlin, kremlin, kremlin. Do people still listen to schiff
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It’s like the state run media protecting someone. I stand in awe at my country and now Schiff is on TV talking kremlin, kremlin, kremlin. Do people still listen to schiff
Same Ratcliff who just selectively declassified Russian Intell with near private meetings to Graham for clear politicization???. Americas top spy who runs to Fox to speak on ongoing unresolved investigations for nothing more than political narrative. Same guy who offered 'damning new evidence' of a boogeyman campaign in 2016 using nothing more than Russian analysis to validate the claim but then ended report with "U.S agencies do not know the accuracy of this allegation or the extent to which the Russian Intelligence analysis may reflect exaggeration or fabrication". That fella? And did so knowing full well a bipartisan Senate committee had already rejected the Russian assertion.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
Here's something we can say without marbles in our mouths, Guiliani openly met with a known Russian operative last Dec for the precise intent of gathering information and 'evidence' on the Bidens. Admitted it on camera, then met him again. Derkach was under U.S surveillance. The U.S Treasury Dept. had sanctioned him for running an active influence campaign aka propaganda on the Bidens ffs. The WH was warned by Intelligence agencies and Trump cautioned by National Security advisor Robert O'Brien on the validity and trustworthiness on anything Guiliani related to his dealings with his 'contacts'. Then wouldn't ya know it a few months later..right before the election..In October..some random shop owner in contact with Steve Bannon ? takes it upon himself to copy the hard drive and hands it off to Rudy Guilianis lawyer ???. And ol Rudy runs to a favorable media source and provides them all info within and the desperate flailing horses are off to the races to muddy up a political opponent. I mean seriously, step back and realize you can deal with the factual unfolding in front of you or people can chase and stoke garbage like this "Bidens boy has a drug problem"...what is this the 80's and random unsourced e mails. Man we're right back to e mails. Same verse, different election. I don't trust it. It reeks of desperate politics. Completely. It's actually sad that this campaign and supporters are relying and standing on this type of Gar'bage rather than any form of the Administrations record, policy platforms and actual plan to deal with the collective and desperate shat show this Nation now finds itself in. I know I know..'we'll see'. Let's see what happens. Just kind of play the pawns and put party before Country. But like I said I trust nothing a compromised Guiliani is involved in, natas.
I don’t really care for Giuliani. I think he needs to pack it in. I don’t like the way he interviews. But the hypocrisy of the press is what astounds me here. We now know they used bogus info to get Trump. Now the press is concerned about the legitimacy of its sources. Since when? Did you see today someone tried to adk Biden a question, it started with the words FBI investigation. Biden waved him off and walked away the press corps laughed at the reporter who asked the question. So now the Biden’s control the questions asked? Remember Biden’s wife saying they won’t take questions about his senility? Is this real? It was a cbs reporter who dared asked about the computer and damn that dude was attacked. This shit literally scares me.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliSame Ratliff who just selectively declassified Russian Intell with near private meetings to Graham for clear politicization???. Americas top spy who runs to Fox to speak on ongoing unresolved investigations for nothing more than political narrative. Same guy who offered 'damning new evidence' of a boogeyman campaign in 2016 using nothing more than Russian analysis to validate the claim but then ended report with "U.S agencies do not know the accuracy of this allegation or the extent to which the Russian Intelligence analysis may reflect exaggeration or fabrication". That fella? And did so knowing full well a bipartisan Senate committee had already rejected the Russian assertion.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
Here's something we can say without marbles in our mouths, Guiliani openly met with a known Russian operative last Dec for the precise intent of gathering information and 'evidence' on the Bidens. Admitted it on camera, then met him again. Derkach was under U.S surveillance. The U.S Treasury Dept. had sanctioned him for running an active influence campaign aka propaganda on the Bidens ffs. The WH was warned by Intelligence agencies and Trump cautioned by National Security advisor Robert O'Brien on the validity and trustworthiness on anything Guiliani related to his dealings with his 'contacts'. Then wouldn't ya know it a few months later..right before the election..In October..some random shop owner in contact with Steve Bannon ? takes it upon himself to copy the hard drive and hands it off to Rudy Guilianis lawyer ???. And ol Rudy runs to a favorable media source and provides them all info within and the desperate flailing horses are off to the races to muddy up a political opponent. I mean seriously, step back and realize you can deal with the factual unfolding in front of you or people can chase and stoke garbage like this "Bidens boy has a drug problem"...what is this the 80's and random unsourced e mails. Man we're right back to e mails. Same verse, different election. I don't trust it. It reeks of desperate politics. Completely. It's actually sad that the this campaign and supporters are relying and standing on this type of Gar'bage rather than any form of the Administrations record, policy platforms and actual plan to deal with the collective and desperate shat show this Nation now finds itself in. I know I know..'we'll see'. Let's see what happens. Just kind of play the pawns and put party before Country. But like I said I trust nothing a compromised Guiliani is involved in, natas.
somewhere on this Earth there is a force
dark, sinister, pure evil....
it infiltrates wherever it wants, whenever it wants:
thru the ages it has possessed so many people,
so many governments,
and it just rolls on thru the decades, thru the centuries, thru the millenia....
every culture has tasted it, every era
and now it seems to be all around us again, the walls closing in fast
I think we can all recognize it, its familiar feel and aura:
it has haunted us since Adam & Eve,
and I think it will never leave.
It's the hand they're playing, Bidens dumb son and making out like Ol Joe is wandering out for milk at 1 am and being found in his boxers a County over. I get it. Does the guy get the shell shocked stare and get his tongue stuck in his nose occasionally..sure. I'd honestly get tired of having my family invoked. Trump has rebuffed the media in same when his came up. But on the flip you listen and see what another man does..what is said as much as how it's said. Trump. But it's just so damn empty and not much of a rebound going into the new brutal reality we're all hiring for over the next 4 years. And that's exactly what we're doing. They're temps..do work, shut up and stop taking my money. The media gets no pass but it to can be a crutch. They hype, rant and stump for their leanings. Best to source both and frankly stop listening to them. Turn the shit off and no..FB is not news. We're not brainless shells and need to stop acting like it. I don't need to be led and fed to come to a conclusion when it's actually happened rather than if, maybe, might have, could be so on and so forth.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrusI don’t really care for Giuliani. I think he needs to pack it in. I don’t like the way he interviews. But the hypocrisy of the press is what astounds me here. We now know they used bogus info to get Trump. Now the press is concerned about the legitimacy of its sources. Since when? Did you see today someone tried to adk Biden a question, it started with the words FBI investigation. Biden waved him off and walked away the press corps laughed at the reporter who asked the question. So now the Biden’s control the questions asked? Remember Biden’s wife saying they won’t take questions about his senility? Is this real? It was a cbs reporter who dared asked about the computer and damn that dude was attacked. This shit literally scares me.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliSame Ratliff who just selectively declassified Russian Intell with near private meetings to Graham for clear politicization???. Americas top spy who runs to Fox to speak on ongoing unresolved investigations for nothing more than political narrative. Same guy who offered 'damning new evidence' of a boogeyman campaign in 2016 using nothing more than Russian analysis to validate the claim but then ended report with "U.S agencies do not know the accuracy of this allegation or the extent to which the Russian Intelligence analysis may reflect exaggeration or fabrication". That fella? And did so knowing full well a bipartisan Senate committee had already rejected the Russian assertion.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
Here's something we can say without marbles in our mouths, Guiliani openly met with a known Russian operative last Dec for the precise intent of gathering information and 'evidence' on the Bidens. Admitted it on camera, then met him again. Derkach was under U.S surveillance. The U.S Treasury Dept. had sanctioned him for running an active influence campaign aka propaganda on the Bidens ffs. The WH was warned by Intelligence agencies and Trump cautioned by National Security advisor Robert O'Brien on the validity and trustworthiness on anything Guiliani related to his dealings with his 'contacts'. Then wouldn't ya know it a few months later..right before the election..In October..some random shop owner in contact with Steve Bannon ? takes it upon himself to copy the hard drive and hands it off to Rudy Guilianis lawyer ???. And ol Rudy runs to a favorable media source and provides them all info within and the desperate flailing horses are off to the races to muddy up a political opponent. I mean seriously, step back and realize you can deal with the factual unfolding in front of you or people can chase and stoke garbage like this "Bidens boy has a drug problem"...what is this the 80's and random unsourced e mails. Man we're right back to e mails. Same verse, different election. I don't trust it. It reeks of desperate politics. Completely. It's actually sad that the this campaign and supporters are relying and standing on this type of Gar'bage rather than any form of the Administrations record, policy platforms and actual plan to deal with the collective and desperate shat show this Nation now finds itself in. I know I know..'we'll see'. Let's see what happens. Just kind of play the pawns and put party before Country. But like I said I trust nothing a compromised Guiliani is involved in, natas.
This is what you do young man.Quote:
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Wow!
Laughable
'The Angry Conservative'? :rofmaoal:
Kinda sounds like someone around here ;D
Still anything is less lame than reposting a PJW video
Your attempts at distraction are lame and noted.
Biden is senile and quite corrupt.
You accuse others of exactly what you yourself do.
You think sharing a video of someone mispronouncing one word is not an example of you saying "oh look a shiny object" and then using it as an attempt to distract from literally thousands of nonsensical statements from the moron you voted in? A guy who like you can't tell the difference between satire and reality, decency and corruption, reality and fantasy.
This entire thread is full of your evasive non sequiters and distractions. Basically a childish refusal to face facts and act like a responsible adult. Just like Trump you parrot it out like a msm sheeple puppet
Whaddabout Hitlary? Whaddabout Obama? Whaddabout Biden mispronouncing a word?
Embarrassing.
Are you the angry Conservative? Is that your YouTube channel then? Good for you if it is at least you will have created something of your own Instead of just reposting stuff from sad losers like PJW.
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Is that what I do?
Oh believe me, Joe Biden "mispronouncing" a few words is hardly the full extent of his cognitive decline. The man has had not 1, but 2 brain aneurysms and there's lots of behavior that doesn't make me believe that he is mentally healthy. Added to this the media have attempted to drag his corpse across the finish line much like they aided Hillary in 2016. So this is Biden WITHOUT any of the pressure Donald Trump faces every single second of the day.
A childish refusal to face facts? I'm sorry I've been through 3 years of people saying Trump colluded with Russia and there has been hearing after hearing after hearing and 0, what, 0 what, 0 people have been found guilty of any kind of collusion with Russia. And Hunter Biden's laptop comes to light and what do you say? What's the first thing posted from you? "Muh Russian disinformation!" "B-b-b-b-but hacked material" ......and I'm the one parroting? The Joe Biden campaign has yet to say the computer is a lie, they've yet to say "no such thing exists" but you did, you know, aren't you just Mr. finger on the pulse of society?
Yes, attempt to distance yourself from the Establishment Democrats, flee and hide like the coward you always have been. Always demanding answers and never fucking providing one. Never standing on solid ground in your beliefs. So you don't want Trump to win, but are you rooting for Biden or are you hoping for some miracle this time? I'd like to know because I want to know full well which to hit you on once Trump wins reelection. It'll just make my day, don't you know?
Nope, not my channel, I don't have a YouTube channel, I'm sure if I did I'd be accused of one thing or another by you.
I guess the people you repost aren't "losers" are they? Is that it? Beanz ONLY follows winners....like Corbyn? Oh no, you voted Green or did you vote at all? LibDem? Not to worry the Tories won which of course you didn't support them so regardless of who you supported you lost and this is what the 4th/5th election cycle you've been on the losing end of? All those winners you follow eh Beanz? Big time winners.
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Is that what I do?
Oh believe me, Joe Biden "mispronouncing" a few words is hardly the full extent of his cognitive decline. The man has had not 1, but 2 brain aneurysms and there's lots of behavior that doesn't make me believe that he is mentally healthy. Added to this the media have attempted to drag his corpse across the finish line much like they aided Hillary in 2016. So this is Biden WITHOUT any of the pressure Donald Trump faces every single second of the day.
A childish refusal to face facts? I'm sorry I've been through 3 years of people saying Trump colluded with Russia and there has been hearing after hearing after hearing and 0, what, 0 what, 0 people have been found guilty of any kind of collusion with Russia. And Hunter Biden's laptop comes to light and what do you say? What's the first thing posted from you? "Muh Russian disinformation!" "B-b-b-b-but hacked material" ......and I'm the one parroting? The Joe Biden campaign has yet to say the computer is a lie, they've yet to say "no such thing exists" but you did, you know, aren't you just Mr. finger on the pulse of society?
Yes, attempt to distance yourself from the Establishment Democrats, flee and hide like the coward you always have been. Always demanding answers and never fucking providing one. Never standing on solid ground in your beliefs. So you don't want Trump to win, but are you rooting for Biden or are you hoping for some miracle this time? I'd like to know because I want to know full well which to hit you on once Trump wins reelection. It'll just make my day, don't you know?
Nope, not my channel, I don't have a YouTube channel, I'm sure if I did I'd be accused of one thing or another by you.
I guess the people you repost aren't "losers" are they? Is that it? Beanz ONLY follows winners....like Corbyn? Oh no, you voted Green or did you vote at all? LibDem? Not to worry the Tories won which of course you didn't support them so regardless of who you supported you lost and this is what the 4th/5th election cycle you've been on the losing end of? All those winners you follow eh Beanz? Big time winners.
Yes that is exactly what you do. Act like an angry conservative belly aching for the last four years. Every post from you is full of spite and ire and poison, to the point where you now spray that over anyone who points out how ideologically driven you are. Driven by a sustained media campaign that you are both too naive and arrogant to acknowledge. And you think you are in a position to judge whether someone is mentally healthy? Based on what? Conjecture and biased partisanship.
It is not even about Biden but much more about how quick you are to hitch yourself to anything that takes the spotlight away from your idol and promotes the kind of divisive hatred that keeps citizens from focusing on the real issues and ties to your perpetual teenage outlook. An outlook where absolute guttercunts like PJW with his pathetic " I smoke fags so i am a rebel" stroppy 3rd hand scripted rants from the Prison Planet troll cave, are mistaken for journalism and content.
And then to have the chutzpah to pretend that i am the one hiding behind his keyboard and Proud Boy army of treasonous alt right camp bear militias when i have given you every chance to act civilly.
And then finally it comes out.
Losers.
It's not about morals or decency or balance or common sense or civility or peace or justice or even radical change ....just winning. At any costs,...fill the swamp..intimidate voters, lie about the opposition, accuse anyone who questions you of being mad or a coward, and then four years of not knowing what to do but bellyache and blame the burning shit show your cuntish idol has ushered in, on anyone but him or his compliant followers.
Those supporting Johnson here are exactly the same.
Blind, myopic, cult like behaviour, not just following the orange lemming and his scarecrow tribute act in the UK, off the edge of a cliff, but dragging and pushing other citizens off with them, all because it is just too much for them to admit they made a mistake.
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Yeah, I'm the angry one :rolleyes:
Seething with rage this morning are you?
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Yeah, I'm the angry one :rolleyes:
Seething with rage this morning are you?
Yes absolutely you are perpetually angry, it seems with little let up for about 3 or 4 years now. You post as though you have a mouth full of ulcers and lemons.
And no i am not even slightly miffed, much less angry. If i ever posted in anger you would probably never stop crying. Just because i refuse to suck up to you like some or avoid you like others, do not mistake that for anger. Plain language is what it is, and yet i unlike you I am not resorting to calling you a coward much less demanding anything, especially answers.
It is 3:30 pm and i am happy to be back working from home inside now it is raining whilst at 10:30 am you i assume must be on your break.
Well if you say so I must be, I mean who are you going to trust ME or Beanz's reading comprehension skills?Quote:
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Yeah yeah spare me the "I'm flat calm and peace loving" bullshit, if you were actually those things, would my posting even draw your attention? I doubt it. You're a busybody, you always have been and you always will be.
Oh you're working now? Be careful, don't strain yourself ;)
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Originally Posted by El KabongWell if you say so I must be, I mean who are you going to trust ME or Beanz's reading comprehension skills?Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
Yeah yeah spare me the "I'm flat calm and peace loving" bullshit, if you were actually those things, would my posting even draw your attention? I doubt it. You're a busybody, you always have been and you always will be.
Oh you're working now? Be careful, don't strain yourself ;)
Who are you talking to? ;D
I would imagine that someone who has spent ten years as a legal case worker and four years as a professional note taker and student support worker for University students, and who has been employed by several editors and commissioned to write professionally, would certainly be comparable in reading comprehension abilities to an insurance clerk. You tell me, it is hardly difficult to see the frustrated and sour tone in almost everything you post.
And now after calling me a coward, despite me offering you the chance to speak face to face and drop the fake alpha male bullshit, you are now pretending that i am a busybody for engaging with you on a forum made for that express purpose.
And no i don't have to strain myself because i love my work and i worked bloody hard to get myself into a position to do what you can't.
I'm not sure who I am talking to, the target keeps shape shifting.Quote:
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So I guess some sort of incident happened between that time and now which has caused you to misunderstand and/or deliberately misrepresent what I post? Belittle what I do all you want to, go right ahead, I don't mind in the slightest...but it's incredible that not only do you have this sort of mind malfunction when reading MY posts, you've got it with select others as well. Very odd how that happens.
You don't HAVE to be considered a coward, I mean you COULD stand solidly on what you believe, who you're voting for, who you're hoping wins.....but nah, you don't even recall who you voted for last election. I think it's shitty you want to hold me to a standard you yourself don't follow. Oh now you WANT To engage with me? So you'll answer questions and debate instead of just emote and look to the refs waiting for them to call a foul?
If you love your work that's great.....doesn't necessarily mean you're good at it ;)
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Originally Posted by El KabongI'm not sure who I am talking to, the target keeps shape shifting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
So I guess some sort of incident happened between that time and now which has caused you to misunderstand and/or deliberately misrepresent what I post? Belittle what I do all you want to, go right ahead, I don't mind in the slightest...but it's incredible that not only do you have this sort of mind malfunction when reading MY posts, you've got it with select others as well. Very odd how that happens.
You don't HAVE to be considered a coward, I mean you COULD stand solidly on what you believe, who you're voting for, who you're hoping wins.....but nah, you don't even recall who you voted for last election. I think it's shitty you want to hold me to a standard you yourself don't follow. Oh now you WANT To engage with me? So you'll answer questions and debate instead of just emote and look to the refs waiting for them to call a foul?
If you love your work that's great.....doesn't necessarily mean you're good at it ;)
I am not belittling what you do at all. That simply is not true. I don't give a shit what you do, I have done everything from cleaning floors and wiping arses to lumping breeze blocks and data entry. It is what you do in the modern era where few jobs are for life. I do not expect to find that i am unique i that. You are the one with the bee up your arse calling me a coward and pretending i am somehow lazy.
I vote for the party and local MP that has policies and principles that i agree with, not because of some ideological dogma that dictates i should only vote for one party slavishly. Do you think that makes you principled and me some kind of coward? What are you talking about? I have never voted for the Lib Dmes but i have voted for The Labour Party, The Green Party and the Trade Union and Socialist Party in Europe. I have got off my arse and fought for my rights and those of others for over 30 years here and in Europe so i am hardly holding you to the same standard, when all your supposed worries about the overstep of Government, and tyranny, have amounted to you sitting on your arse and applauding it as it goes on for the last four years.
It is a great privilege to be able to what you love, and yes actually to compete and get long standing contracts, of course you have to be good at it.
mark my words........ ****TRUMP KNOWS HE HAS LOST THE ELECTION******
Kind of missed the point, but whatever it ain't my job to walk you through it. You feel good about you that should be all that matters and I'll leave you be.Quote:
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just wondering what is worse: (nothing to do with the above bickering)
a. bee up the arse
b. bee in the bonnet
c. knickers in a right twist
d. cockwomble threw a paddy
e. gormless knob
f. chavtastic
...can I say "The cockwomble had a bee up his ass and threw a paddy, it was chavtastic"? :footinmouth:
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Yooz can say whadda ya like homie. It's mad brick out there for sitting on the stoop but one day Bro, we will, because you dropping the Beef is wavy.
Chavtastic is a great one. I know i have used it a bit because it is like a re-appropriation of an insult. CHAV supposedly came from Council House And Violent, but for me that is a large part of my culture. Council Estates like Trailer Parks or any kind of Social Housing are still communities and yes you get violence from both gangs in other Estates, and those on your estate, as well as fights with the traveling fair lads (Gypsies), but you also get parents that look out for other peoples kids and a kind of close knit bond. That forges new language and music and fashion and other stuff, and then when people grown up they become snobs and use the CHAV thing to try and shame scruffy urchins in the same Chavvy tracksuits they themselves were wearing in the 80's. Electro has become Grime, and bike chains and Black widows have become guns and knives, but it is the same old, same old, in many ways.
Trailer Park Bling = Chavtastic
:dJ::foruml10gc5::dance::skater::bounce::discomonk ey::dancer:
I always thought chav was a London thing. I used to work with a bunch from London many moons ago and one asked me, I was 17. Got any chavs? Got any what now? Chavs, kids. OH! No, I'm 17. This would have been in the mid 90's. Chav fever hadn't taken hold at that point. I swear to god, the chav conversation blended seamlessly into 'know anyone who wants a shotgun?' Ummm no not really. Again I'm 17. They had this shotgun up for sale out the back of a Ford Escort that one of them bought for 50 quid, so the four of them could get down to Bristol to do building work at the MOD building in Filton because it was cheaper then the train. Anyone that fancied a look was allowed to, wrapped up in a blanket in the boot of this Escort. I thought this was typical London behaviour.
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Yup. Had the same down here a few London wide boys running a pirate radio station from our loft boasting about their shooters and stuff. They robbed the shared house i was in and the lads in it, who were farm boys, just went and kicked the London lads doors in and got their stuff back. Funny old world ;D
"The London Lads"
The London Lads were light
And weak in their sad plight:
Like coked-out jocks and door-keys
They hung out in Torquay
And got their lights punched out
And ram-rodded in their snouts;
The clock struck ten, and there's Big Ben
And of that there is no doubt.
Don't forget, I'm not bad at that stuff anyway, and I'm president.
"So I call some guy, the head of Exxon. I call the head of Exxon. I don't know."
President Trump went on to describe a hypothetical conversation: "How are you doing? How's energy coming? When are you doing the exploration? Oh, you need a couple of permits?"
"When I call the head of Exxon I say, 'You know, I'd love [for you] to send me $25m [£19m] for the campaign.' 'Absolutely sir,'" he added.
I always thought that 'chav' came from the Romany gypsy word for 'children'.
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Apparently it did in the 90's in Kent. My grandparents lived in a caravan and the estate i grew up on used to be farmland full of Gypsies but never heard it growing up. I think because the majority were Travelers (Irish) with very few Roma.
The Urban Dictionary definition is -
1. Human equivalent of vermin. Fake sportswear, large gold jewellery (bought from argos) and (at least) quadrouple pushchair with females of the 'species'. They use a little known language derived from English slang and American 'gangsta'.Most reproduce by the age of 14, sometimes younger.Chavs are created by their parents through serious neglect or adequate education of any kind. Although the 'species' is so new, their predicted life span is around 40 years, enough time to raise a least 5 broods. They can be found around fast food outlets, shopping malls and other similer places. Their main transport is either a 'modded' shite bucket or a police vehicle of some sort.
;D
Did they actually migrate with their parents? Because the law in place benefited those who traveled with children as opposed to those who were adults and traveled alone which of course led to people exploiting that.Quote:
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Yeah those aren't mutually exclusive things and it's been quite some time since Bannon worked at the White House.Quote:
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Whatever they did you would do anything to blame them and excuse Trump and his distinctly unchristian and monstrous version of America. You and the American people have been exploited for years and now you are worried about economic migrants? You sense of perspective has been warped by the same mainstream media that has led to Brexit fans demonising migrants in the UK and getting on their knees before their corrupt Oligarch led masters. Silence on unrestrained exploitation of the environment by Trumps petro chemical masters and outrage from you because people want to follow the American dream.
Yeah those aren't mutually exclusive things and it's been quite some time since Bannon worked at the White House.Quote:
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Where are the people arguing that those are mutually exclusive things? You do this a lot. Make the other persons argument for them because for you winning is far more important than the truth. Yes Bannon being corrupt and Biden's son possibly being corrupt do not exclude each others chance of being true. To pretend though that someone arrested and charged for something he is accusing others of does not strip credence away from the veracity of his story, especially when he is behind the destruction of British and American democracy thru treacherous means, is ridiculous. This is YOUR man. You stood up for him and all the other Trump staff that are now in prison. Why?
QAnon.
Your refusal to look at the facts with any kind of common sense or levity.
OK then, allow me to accept the premise of your take and ask you in response.Quote:
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Originally Posted by El KabongDid they actually migrate with their parents? Because the law in place benefited those who traveled with children as opposed to those who were adults and traveled alone which of course led to people exploiting that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
Whatever they did you would do anything to blame them and excuse Trump and his distinctly unchristian and monstrous version of America. You and the American people have been exploited for years and now you are worried about economic migrants? You sense of perspective has been warped by the same mainstream media that has led to Brexit fans demonising migrants in the UK and getting on their knees before their corrupt Oligarch led masters. Silence on unrestrained exploitation of the environment by Trumps petro chemical masters and outrage from you because people want to follow the American dream.
Yeah those aren't mutually exclusive things and it's been quite some time since Bannon worked at the White House.Quote:
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Where are the people arguing that those are mutually exclusive things? You do this a lot. Make the other persons argument for them because for you winning is far more important than the truth. Yes Bannon being corrupt and Biden's son possibly being corrupt do not exclude each others chance of being true. To pretend though that someone arrested and charged for something he is accusing others of does not strip credence away from the veracity of his story, especially when he is behind the destruction of British and American democracy thru treacherous means, is ridiculous. This is YOUR man. You stood up for him and all the other Trump staff that are now in prison. Why?
QAnon.
Your refusal to look at the facts with any kind of common sense or levity.
How many economic migrants should the United States allow in? How many should we provide health insurance for (this is the plan from Biden et al)? Do we vet any of these migrants or are ALL welcome? Are we to just accept without question the impacts of these policies? I guess it's my privilege to LIVE in the United States, but I guess I no longer get a say in what happens here because someone who SAYS they were in a cultish version of Christianity has deemed me "unchristian" for caring about my countrymen and my country?
OK so allow me to get this straight, you accuse me of diverting the topic all the time, you accuse me of veering the discussion off of the topic, but when it comes to corruption specifically the corruption of the Biden family, you trot out Steve Bannon and I guess what that's acceptable because you're the one posting it or it's not your words it's someone else saying it for you?
Also worth noting that the FBI & DOJ have concurred with DNI Dan Ratcliffe that the laptop & emails belonging to Hunter Biden were NOT part of a Russian disinformation campaign.
Also Bevan Cooney (one of Hunter Biden's business associates at Rosemont Seneca Bohai, LLC) has allowed reporters access to his gmail account to publish all newsworthy information from his trove of 26,000 emails....some will be related to Hunter Biden and some won't.
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Originally Posted by El KabongOK then, allow me to accept the premise of your take and ask you in response.Quote:
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Originally Posted by El KabongDid they actually migrate with their parents? Because the law in place benefited those who traveled with children as opposed to those who were adults and traveled alone which of course led to people exploiting that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
Whatever they did you would do anything to blame them and excuse Trump and his distinctly unchristian and monstrous version of America. You and the American people have been exploited for years and now you are worried about economic migrants? You sense of perspective has been warped by the same mainstream media that has led to Brexit fans demonising migrants in the UK and getting on their knees before their corrupt Oligarch led masters. Silence on unrestrained exploitation of the environment by Trumps petro chemical masters and outrage from you because people want to follow the American dream.
Yeah those aren't mutually exclusive things and it's been quite some time since Bannon worked at the White House.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
Where are the people arguing that those are mutually exclusive things? You do this a lot. Make the other persons argument for them because for you winning is far more important than the truth. Yes Bannon being corrupt and Biden's son possibly being corrupt do not exclude each others chance of being true. To pretend though that someone arrested and charged for something he is accusing others of does not strip credence away from the veracity of his story, especially when he is behind the destruction of British and American democracy thru treacherous means, is ridiculous. This is YOUR man. You stood up for him and all the other Trump staff that are now in prison. Why?
QAnon.
Your refusal to look at the facts with any kind of common sense or levity.
How many economic migrants should the United States allow in? How many should we provide health insurance for (this is the plan from Biden et al)? Do we vet any of these migrants or are ALL welcome? Are we to just accept without question the impacts of these policies? I guess it's my privilege to LIVE in the United States, but I guess I no longer get a say in what happens here because someone who SAYS they were in a cultish version of Christianity has deemed me "unchristian" for caring about my countrymen and my country?
OK so allow me to get this straight, you accuse me of diverting the topic all the time, you accuse me of veering the discussion off of the topic, but when it comes to corruption specifically the corruption of the Biden family, you trot out Steve Bannon and I guess what that's acceptable because you're the one posting it or it's not your words it's someone else saying it for you?
Again you are mounting arguments i never made and pretending that they were in order to play pretend. The issue is one of separating children from their parents and the current administrations complicit part in that and a wholly unchristian 4 years, whilst courting evangelicals, and abusing a faith for political gain. Nobody called you unchristian for caring about your country, but you are deluded if you think that Jesus would put love of country (as though any deity would be distracted by such earthly childish notions) above love of God, or the love for his fellow man. You don't have a monopoly on Jesus, or his teachings, and the early Christians would certainly be regarded as cult like today. You mistake me for somebody who is more ignorant than you of the teachings you like to invoke as justification for the very lack of compassion Jesus would consider an anathema to his own example.
And i am not the one diverting the topic at all. That is you. 4 years of corruption that extends to the UK and instead of admitting how incredibly divisive, corrupt and criminally liable Trump and CO have been you ALWAYS and i mean ALWAYS deflect by making it about Hilary or Obama and now Biden's son. How long have you been telling us this is going to happen and that is going to happen without ever being able to hold up an example? Trumps admin have been banged up by the truck load and you are talking about someone not in power and currently not facing any charges AGAIN.
Steve Bannon? are you defending him now? ;D
...........I'll take "modded" shite bucket for 50.
Not true, I'm merely accepting your premise and then asking you direct questions about it.Quote:
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Here's a KEY point you're missing (either on purpose or just by happy accident) these children aren't necessarily being separated from "their parents".....can't stress that enough Beanz, really can't stress it enough. Also not knowing who is among these groups of people especially considering these "families" may not actually be related (or willingly travelling together), yes the SAFEST thing would be to separate children & adults so as to limit potential harm. Not every migrant is evil, but also not every migrant is an angel either....again, can't stress that enough.
Who in Trump's administration was "banged up" for "Russian collusion"? I would like names & charges....of course if you're able to provide them.
I'm not defending Bannon when I say that it is possible for Bannon can be corrupt AND the Biden's can be corrupt. How you were confused about that again leads me to question your reading comprehension. It's stated quite clearly "they're not mutually exclusive" ....is that a defense? Do you consider it one?
Hillary Clinton is most assuredly corrupt in a manner that should draw your ire, but I guess it's "unchristian" to point out what the Clinton Foundation has done worldwide....selling watered down AIDS drugs? Stealing from the Haitians...the Haitians!!!! Like some of the poorest people on Earth who needed help after a massive Earthquake....they STOLE from those people!!!!
Barack Obama is corrupt, he acted as a tyrant during his time in office and each day that passes that he's not locked up is a travesty. Spying on the incoming President surely is wrong, but I guess you'd forgive him for that because reasons :rolleyes:
Absolute bullshit and lies. Laughable.
Parents... Parents... Children seperated from their parents. Not just in the report I posted a link to but in every single report of it I have crossed checked it with.
And now you are again just playing pretend and I insisting that I am making stuff up or assuming stuff that is not explicitly stared. Except it is explicitly stared.... Everywhere.
And this from the supposed compassionate God fearing family values guy and his monstorous advisors.
And then again just inventing stuff and then putting QUOTE marks around it to pretend that I said it. Where did I use the phrase "Russian Collusion"?
Trump got elected on his supposed abilty to hire the best people and yet he hired a bunch of crooks. And so they were "banged up".
Nobody but you is pretending Russian collusion never happens or has happened but I did not use it as a reason for Trumps staffs incarceration.
And then again... Yes once a fucking doo dah gain... You bring up Obama... Lol
Insisting he is the criminal. No charges brought etc but apparently I am the one distracting and changing subject and not answering questions... Ha! Treble lol 😂
Their response to a badgering Ron Johnson reads a bit different than echoing Ratcliffs 'certainty' :-X. Basically the 2nd paragraph they use to remind him of the reality and foreign threats posed. Johnsons strong arming trying to beat the election clock pales to Trump near publicly directing AG Barr to prosecute a political rival yesterday.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
This responds to your letter, dated October 17, 2020, to the Federal Bureau of
Investigation (FBI) regarding the authenticity of certain information provided to your
Committee, including whether such information is linked to a foreign adversary’s influence
operation or is otherwise fraudulent. You also ask several questions about a laptop computer
reportedly produced pursuant to a grand jury subpoena.
As you may know, the Office of the Director of National Intelligence has advised the
American public that, in advance of the 2020 election, a number of nation-states plan to use
covert and overt influence measures in an attempt to sway voter preferences and perspectives,
sow discord in the United States, and undermine the confidence of Americans in our democratic
process. The FBI is the primary investigative agency responsible for the integrity and security of
the 2020 election, and as such, we are focused on an array of threats, including the threat of
malign foreign influence operations. Regarding the subject of your letter, we have nothing to
add at this time to the October 19th public statement by the Director of National Intelligence
about the available actionable intelligence. If actionable intelligence is developed, the FBI in
consultation with the Intelligence Community will evaluate the need to provide defensive
briefings to you and the Committee pursuant to the established notification framework.
Finally, as the FBI advised the Committee in its letter, dated October 5, 2020, consistent
with longstanding Department of Justice (Department) policy and practice, the FBI can neither
confirm nor deny the existence of any ongoing investigation or persons or entities under
investigation, including to Members of Congress. As the Inspector General firmly reminded the
Department and the FBI in recent years, this policy is designed to preserve the integrity of all
Justice Department investigations and the Department’s ability to effectively administer justice
without political or other undue outside influences. Therefore, the FBI cannot provide any
additional information in response to the enumerated questions in your letter.
Thank you for your support of the FBI, its mission, and its people
And again more pathetic bullshit lies. Where did I say that the Bidens could not possibly be corrupt or insist that Bannon being a bond villain meant that the Bidens must be innocent?
I didn't say it. I never used it as a defense, in fact I explicitly made it quite clear I was not doing so.
Yet you just invented it as an argument I never mounted in order to easily dismiss me with your reading comprehension bullshit.
That all stems from Tittyfan not being able like you, to admit a mistake. Incredibly dishonest way to conduct an argument.
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So much going under the radar in these few clusterfeck months as we're all being force fed bs like bugs to a zapper. Interesting last week that a Federal Judge in MT. again ruled the 'acting' Director of Land management was appointed unlawfully and served as such. A number of his directives over the last year are poised to be thrown out and yet to be determined if all. This has always been a problem with the massive amount of 'acting' appointees Trump has sent up and he does so to avoid Senate oversite and approval. Scrutiny. Chalk one up for the State. Tip of the ice berg I'm afraid.
Just for the record, arguments should never end withQuote:
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Fuck me now I’m going to put that on everything I write
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Fuck
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The other day I was talking to a watch maker by the first name of Julio
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I had that song “me and Julio down by the school yard” stuck in my head for three days
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This is worse than that and that sucked pretty bad even though it’s a good song and I like it
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