Re: Who wins prime Lewis v prime Tyson?
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Originally Posted by TYSONBRUNO
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Originally Posted by bzkfn
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bzkfn did you say Tyson would win other day
No this is the first time I've posted on this. I previously ignored it because I didn't think it was worth debating. For me, it's hard to judge these things because in alot of cases, when a fighter fights in his prime and loses, people begin to question if he was past it at that point and nobody realised it. In the end, they fought and Tyson lost clearly. I don't think Tyson could have ever contended with Lewis' power.
See i don't think a prime Lewis would have been able to contend with a Prime Tyson's speed and power combined
Well man...I've said it before. Everyone is entitled to their opinion...
...but if it doesn't agree with mine, it's a wrong opinion ;D ;D
Re: Who wins prime Lewis v prime Tyson?
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Originally Posted by Troy McClure
holy S*** :o this was on page 7 last time i checked :D
some good debate going on here :)
...okey-dokey first off, lets discuss this post prison tyson(the one holy beat) shall we!
tyson was inactive for 4 years(thats longer than alis exsile) and he fought a total of 8 rds in 4 fights leading up to holyfield and he fought bums that were S*** scared. he won all off those fights by scaring his opponents out of there titles, he didnt have to fight for them he simply won them off his mistiuqe.
he was simple not ready for holyfield and took the old warrior lightly to say the least. secondly it was not the tyson off old, if you watch all his fights he became a head-hunter since 89 when he left rooney. he thought his myth was enough to win(hence to douglas a** whoopin).
the tyson from pre-88 would have destroyed douglas by KO and holy by UD.
....tyson- lewis always makes for a great debate and i like tyson in this won by UD ;)
Didn't he always do that ???
Re: Who wins prime Lewis v prime Tyson?
Yea well its not like Lewis ever lost to lesser men Like Oliver McCall and Hasim Rahman who dont punch a fraction with the speed and power of Tyson... Not to mention Tysons peek a boo and excellent side to side movement and body work... Tyson could slip alto of jabs and get on the inside and bust Lewis up...
I laugh my friggin azz off when people think it was some great feat that Lennox beat a past it uniterested paycheck collecting Tyson....
Re: Who wins prime Lewis v prime Tyson?
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Yea well its not like Lewis ever lost to lesser men Like Oliver McCall and Hasim Rahman who dont punch a fraction with the speed and power of Tyson... Not to mention Tysons peek a boo and excellent side to side movement and body work... Tyson could slip alto of jabs and get on the inside and bust Lewis up...
I laugh my friggin azz off when people think it was some great feat that Lennox beat a past it uniterested paycheck collecting Tyson....
No one on this forum gives Lewis credit for Tyson win and rightly so and wasn't Tyson beaten by lesser man Buster Douglas ?? yes some people will say he wern't in his prime which is the case but that was Tysons first opponent that didn't fight scared and he fought the right fight using his jab and moving Lewis did not take Rahman and Oliver seriously he would take Tyson seriously and imo Lewis always does the buisness against top level opponents when he is in top shape and he has the height and the boxing skills to win.
Re: Who wins prime Lewis v prime Tyson?
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by JT Rock
Yea well its not like Lewis ever lost to lesser men Like Oliver McCall and Hasim Rahman who dont punch a fraction with the speed and power of Tyson... Not to mention Tysons peek a boo and excellent side to side movement and body work... Tyson could slip alto of jabs and get on the inside and bust Lewis up...
I laugh my friggin azz off when people think it was some great feat that Lennox beat a past it uniterested paycheck collecting Tyson....
No one on this forum gives Lewis credit for Tyson win and rightly so and wasn't Tyson beaten by lesser man Buster Douglas ?? yes some people will say he wern't in his prime which is the case but that was Tysons first opponent that didn't fight scared and he fought the right fight using his jab and moving Lewis did not take Rahman and Oliver seriously he would take Tyson seriously and imo Lewis always does the buisness against top level opponents when he is in top shape and he has the height and the boxing skills to win.
Hey I respected Lewis skill, even tho I though he was opportunistic and picked at the carcasses of 2 the great fighters of his time to build his legacy
Holyfield
Tyson
But I would take a Prime Tyson because he would have more than a punchers chance, Tyson had a Iron beard, Good Boxing skills to go with his quickness and power...
I retracting my previous comments about Tysons heart, I said he didnt have one, well he did forget his last 2 fights which were a spectacle and he shouldnt have been in there.... People will say that Tyson never got off the floor to win a fight, well when Tyson got KO'D it was from an accumulation of punishment that when he was out he was OUT.... Mike was a warrior with some issues, he was a mess he was Fuked up and has had some of the lowest moments that anyone has had in and out of the ring, he was a villian a real bona fied villian, but aside from his side show fights, Holyfield 2 Williams(he tore his ACL), McBride he dug in and when he got beat, well he got beat
Re: Who wins prime Lewis v prime Tyson?
Tyson put Lewis to sleep in sparring FACT when Lewis came round he said do you know what i mean Harry ,he did nt know where he was for a while ,he thought he was Frank Bruno.
Re: Who wins prime Lewis v prime Tyson?
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Originally Posted by TYSONBESTEVER
Tyson put Lewis to sleep in sparring FACT when Lewis came round he said do you know what i mean Harry ,he did nt know where he was for a while ,he thought he was Frank Bruno.
What ??? i never heard that i heard Tyson was winning then Lewis started to get better of Tyson and who cares about sparring anyway well Greg Page put Tyson on his ass so i guess Page would of beat Tyson then ??
Re: Who wins prime Lewis v prime Tyson?
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by Troy McClure
holy S*** :o this was on page 7 last time i checked :D
some good debate going on here :)
...okey-dokey first off, lets discuss this post prison tyson(the one holy beat) shall we!
tyson was inactive for 4 years(thats longer than alis exsile) and he fought a total of 8 rds in 4 fights leading up to holyfield and he fought bums that were S*** scared. he won all off those fights by scaring his opponents out of there titles, he didnt have to fight for them he simply won them off his mistiuqe.
he was simple not ready for holyfield and took the old warrior lightly to say the least. secondly it was not the tyson off old, if you watch all his fights he became a head-hunter since 89 when he left rooney. he thought his myth was enough to win(hence to douglas a** whoopin).
the tyson from pre-88 would have destroyed douglas by KO and holy by UD.
....tyson- lewis always makes for a great debate and i like tyson in this won by UD ;)
Didn't he always do that ???
no! tucker and berbick came to fight. yeah everyone knows spinks was shitting his pants but back then tyson fought his ass off ....post prison tyson didnt fight. i mean he landed one punch on seldon ,but he just went down from fear same with bruno, bruno was scared shitless....so you see tyson never had to fight to regain those titles but when he was prime he fought hard for the title against tucker and berbick and well smith was holding and running for 12rds
Re: Who wins prime Lewis v prime Tyson?
OMG 15 pages GET A LIFE PEOPLE...
Just kidding ;D
Re: Who wins prime Lewis v prime Tyson?
I like Lennox he was a very good if not great heavy weight champ but he just does'nt beat a prime Tyson ;D
Re: Who wins prime Lewis v prime Tyson?
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Originally Posted by TYSONBRUNO
I like Lennox he was a very good if not great heavy weight champ but he just does'nt beat a prime Tyson ;D
Exactly!! 8)
Re: Who wins prime Lewis v prime Tyson?
Just to end the debate you can't win with the Tyson fans because every struggle or loss he has there is always an excuse if i mention Ruddock he is past it if i mention Tillis he hadn't peaked if i mention Douglas he hadn't trained if i mention Bruno he was fading so when exactly was his prime two fights against the mediocre Berbick or natural lightheavyweight Spinks who was bricking it ??
Re: Who wins prime Lewis v prime Tyson?
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
Just to end the debate you can't win with the Tyson fans because every struggle or loss he has there is always an excuse if i mention Ruddock he is past it if i mention Tillis he hadn't peaked if i mention Douglas he hadn't trained if i mention Bruno he was fading so when exactly was his prime two fights against the mediocre Berbick or natural lightheavyweight Spinks who was bricking it ??
He beat Ruddock easily despite not using his earlier skills. Tillis was beaten handily and was an early opponent. Douglas was beaten by Tucker and yet beat Tyson easily. It does indicate a lack of training.
Prime Tyson beat Holmes and early. Nobody else did that. Lewis beat Tucker but was outboxed more than Tyson but when Tucker was far older.
Re: Who wins prime Lewis v prime Tyson?
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Originally Posted by miles
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Just to end the debate you can't win with the Tyson fans because every struggle or loss he has there is always an excuse if i mention Ruddock he is past it if i mention Tillis he hadn't peaked if i mention Douglas he hadn't trained if i mention Bruno he was fading so when exactly was his prime two fights against the mediocre Berbick or natural lightheavyweight Spinks who was bricking it ??
He beat Ruddock easily despite not using his earlier skills. Tillis was beaten handily and was an early opponent. Douglas was beaten by Tucker and yet beat Tyson easily. It does indicate a lack of training.
Prime Tyson beat Holmes and early. Nobody else did that. Lewis beat Tucker but was outboxed more than Tyson but when Tucker was far older.
Beating a 39 year old Holmes coming off a two year layoff,is not exactly a great resume padder,sort of like saying Berbick was an all time great for beating a flat out elderly Ali
Re: Who wins prime Lewis v prime Tyson?
They both could beat each other on a given night. Tyson could land a big shot, and KO anyone, that's boxing, but so could Lewis. Out of ten fights, Mike gets a few KOs, but Lewis is the smarter fighter, and makes proper adjustments, and wins more out of ten. As for a one-night only, it could go either way.
By the way TysonBruno, someone had made the comment that Lennox beat an "old man", my point was that Lewis was older at the time, or same age, so, an "old man", got beat by an "old man" ;D
