Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds! Hatton vs Castillo!!!

Hey,I called this as soon as the fight was announced. Ricky was stronger,faster,younger,more relentless and it showed. JLC may have been on the slide but he was not shot, It was moving to 140 and not having the strenght and size advantage he did at 135..Hatton was just too much for him.

And to anyone saying Hatton does not deserve credit for this fight and that JLC was shot: If you are going to say that then Oscar was shot too, by those standards... ;)

With regards to Cotto Hatton, Cotto would have beat JLC even quicker and at 147,it's Cotto's world. He hits harder to the body than Hatton,Hatton has more of a cumulative effect. It would be a good fight but before this fight, I favoured(as did most) Cotto and this fight has done nothing to change my mind. Remember,Hatton had advantages over JLC in early every department for this fight,he would not have most of those advantages at 147 and certainly not v Cotto who is younger,bigger,stronger and hits harder.

As for Floyd,stay retired son. Or stick to calling out guys you've just beaten. Regardless of whether you think Floyd can beat Hatton,Cotto,Margarito,Mosley(I think he would be favourite in all of these fights but I wouldnt rule the other guy out), he wants NOTHING of these guys. If he were to fight one,it would be Mosley and the chances of that are slim too. We don't need someone with that attitude around. As much as I love to watch him fight,even the most ardent of Floyd fans would have to be blind to say that those fights are not worth making.

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Originally Posted by Saddo

wow GREAT WIN :o

BRING ON MAYWEATHWER...

AFTER ALL HE JUST BEAT MAYWEATHERS ARDEST FIGHTER IN FAR MORE CLASSIC STYLE RICKY IS WELL IN THE MIX REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE HATERS SAY 8)

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C'mon Boss lets be fair, this isint even a shell of the Former Castillo that just laid down for the 10 count... We all know that

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did you the the hopkins-DLH fight... it ended the same way and the expression on DLH and castillo's face after they got hit by the body punch was identical, and they stayed down looking like they might not be that hurt but that pain dont go away for minutes...

when you get hit with that shot like that, its like getting hit in the ba!!s you feel it throughout your back and stomach... your whole mid-section of your body locks up..

castillo in his prime would have hit harder and faster but would have still gotten hit by that same punch sooner or later.... hatton hits harder than anyones casatillo has faced.... that was his punch(left hook) that registered a half a ton or what ever it was

floyd or cotto would have been down for 12 on that shot.. i'm not sure if he could get to floyd but he could get to cotto(but not without taking a beating)..

he would destroy gatti.... big money and exposure fight though.. if gatti wins his next fight... gatti would be easier than malignaggi for sure

D'oh!!

I fell asleep at 1.30am and woke at 6!!

Luckily I taped it!

Great fight. The key for Ricky was always the body shot and what a shot!!

I dont think America has ever seen anything like Ricky Hatton Inc!!!


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Originally Posted by wacko3205

The thing is, while I am a HUGE fan of Cotto, there are still waaaaaaaaaaaaay too many unanswered questions for me...not being a fan of Hatton's...well there are more unanswered questions there, but I think that a match between the two would close the queries.

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Has Cotto beaten an active legend like Tszyu?

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Originally Posted by Saddo

sorry guys i hate showing my passion when pissed but sometimes i cant help it :-X

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Bwoss...don't you apologize for S***!!!

#1: This is your joint & we are all merely jesters in the king's court.
#2: Passion is what keeps our sport alive...win, lose, or draw the love for one's favorite fighter is a beaut of a thing!

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anyhooo that was a great win and Wacko says it how it is recerdless of his personal opinion that is why hes the man.... anyhooo im pissed night all ;)

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It was indeed a great win...& if your'e a fan of the sport, whether you like every fighter that graces the mat or not, you gotta call it like you see it...& I saw that as yet another great night for boxing.

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WHAT A 4 ROUNDS O0
Absolute killer left to the body and i don't know of anyone even at Welter who could have taken that shot.
Perfect Punch that sickened Castillo and he looked fine to me in the 3rd.
Rickys footwork is so underated and his incredible lateral movement make him look super fast which n turn made JLC look slow at times.
That was the real Hatton last night and he fought like a maniac and done us more than proud.
Fantastic for UK boxing and World boxing and he really is one of the most exciting fighters to watch imo (maybe the most) when he fights like that.
I don't wanna see him in with Mayweather next and watch him chasing shadows,i wanna see him in an absolute tear-up (where he belongs) with Cotto.
Thats the fight for the true Hardcore fan imo!
No one can deny Hatton is da bomb now and anyone who does is simply a charlatan of a fan.
Wonder if he's still on the lash ;D

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The thing is, while I am a HUGE fan of Cotto, there are still waaaaaaaaaaaaay too many unanswered questions for me...not being a fan of Hatton's...well there are more unanswered questions there, but I think that a match between the two would close the queries.

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Has Cotto beaten an active legend like Tszyu?

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I don't know why Tszyu should be brought to mind since Zab was stopped by the "Thunder from Down Under" and Cotto also took care of him... What Ricky achieved with this is an exciting fight on the making with Miguel, a natural punch-fest give and take thriller that simply should have had happened at 140 lbs and now there's no reason for not happening at 147 lbs, both Ricky and Miguel have held major titles at junior welter and the WBA Welter title, both are unbeaten and about the same height and style, gat to happen or else something is very wrong with the boxing mobster agents here... Hatton Malignaggi? For a tune-up and another Light Welter title? Hatton Mayweather? That's a stupid way to make Floyd pay for his dirty mouth... Cotto Mayweather? Miguel doesn't need a hit and run, slick defensive master... It's Cotto Hatton and Mayweather Mosley!

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WHAT A 4 ROUNDS O0
Absolute killer left to the body and i don't know of anyone even at Welter who could have taken that shot.
Perfect Punch that sickened Castillo and he looked fine to me in the 3rd.
Rickys footwork is so underated and his incredible lateral movement make him look super fast which n turn made JLC look slow at times.
That was the real Hatton last night and he fought like a maniac and done us more than proud.
Fantastic for UK boxing and World boxing and he really is one of the most exciting fighters to watch imo (maybe the most) when he fights like that.
I don't wanna see him in with Mayweather next and watch him chasing shadows,i wanna see him in an absolute tear-up (where he belongs) with Cotto.
Thats the fight for the true Hardcore fan imo!
No one can deny Hatton is da bomb now and anyone who does is simply a charlatan of a fan.
Wonder if he's still on the lash ;D
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Great comment, dat absolutely sums it up - I said that weight drained JLC with get depleted as soon as would fight back hard and would get overconfident on his own experience and conditioning, you cannot rationalize on your physicality prior to the bout, at least not the way Ngoudjo pressed him back before, I thought he would sustain the more than certain sharper, faster, stronger wild Hitman's attack until the mid-stage and then would be taken by Ricky's 2nd gear come-back fire by the 9th. A 4th round body shot even though a lil bit premature TKO win ( by the hands of Cortez who else?) puts Hatton on the center stage of a Hardcore Hard-Rock Spitfire Puerto-Rican British clash with Miguel Cotto and the riddle Mayweather will be solved by a more careful technical approach in Mosley...

So which was it ... a KO or a TKO? Sounds more like a KO ... wasn't he down for the count?

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So which was it ... a KO or a TKO? Sounds more like a KO ... wasn't he down for the count?

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Absolutely, You are right, he was counted out or in another words, JLC said "No Mas" in gestural language... I think he got the payday and was in there to see how did it feel to trade with Ricky so that he could fight back as Ricky would tire, he fought back hard for a very short time and got depleted in the 1st quarter of the fight... What I meant was that I knew he would try to sustain it and sap Ricky's energy holding, hitting low and at the clinch and try to come back later but at that time, JLC would feel depleted, the cumulative effect of Ricky's blows or whatever - It was as much of the blow itself as from those other factors

loved the fight but thought that taking a point away for a low blow was bullshit at that point.

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Originally Posted by miles

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Jose Luis Castillo is a shot fighter, but given his financial troubles, I doubt he'll retire.

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Pathetic. ::**

Give Hatton his props. Castillo looked far from shot, but was fighting at a pace he didnt like. And got crippled with a body shot. End of.

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I've said in multiple posts in this thread, "all respect to Hatton for his victory."

How about you read my posts before you label them pathetic?

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So which was it ... a KO or a TKO? Sounds more like a KO ... wasn't he down for the count?

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Absolutely, You are right, he was counted out or in another words, JLC said "No Mas" in gestural language... I think he got the payday and was in there to see how did it feel to trade with Ricky so that he could fight back as Ricky would tire, he fought back hard for a very short time and got depleted in the 1st quarter of the fight... What I meant was that I knew he would try to sustain it and sap Ricky's energy holding, hitting low and at the clinch and try to come back later but at that time, JLC would feel depleted, the cumulative effect of Ricky's blows or whatever - It was as much of the blow itself as from those other factors

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what???? no disrespect to you but i dont hardly understand your point or analysis of the fight... hatton just blew him out.. JLC wasnt tired...

the blow itself was a vicious left hook to the body that took castillo breath away and and locked up his mid-section..

anyone who has watched boxing years knows that left hook to the liver is one of the most debilitating blows one person can take...

that was a LOUD, THUDDING, FLUSH SHOT.

"THE PERFECT SHOT" IS WHAT CASTILLO CALLED AND HE IS THE ONE THAT FELT IT......

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Jose Luis Castillo is a shot fighter, but given his financial troubles, I doubt he'll retire.

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Pathetic. ::**

Give Hatton his props. Castillo looked far from shot, but was fighting at a pace he didnt like. And got crippled with a body shot. End of.

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I've said in multiple posts in this thread, "all respect to Hatton for his victory."

How about you read my posts before you label them pathetic?

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I read this post of yours and it was one of the first posted by you after the fight had finished. I didnt detct too much repect

Here you say "all respect to Hatton for his victory" and I do see that so fair enough

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So which was it ... a KO or a TKO? Sounds more like a KO ... wasn't he down for the count?

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Absolutely, You are right, he was counted out or in another words, JLC said "No Mas" in gestural language... I think he got the payday and was in there to see how did it feel to trade with Ricky so that he could fight back as Ricky would tire, he fought back hard for a very short time and got depleted in the 1st quarter of the fight... What I meant was that I knew he would try to sustain it and sap Ricky's energy holding, hitting low and at the clinch and try to come back later but at that time, JLC would feel depleted, the cumulative effect of Ricky's blows or whatever - It was as much of the blow itself as from those other factors

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what???? no disrespect to you but i dont hardly understand your point or analysis of the fight... hatton just blew him out.. JLC wasnt tired...

the blow itself was a vicious left hook to the body that took castillo breath away and and locked up his mid-section..

anyone who has watched boxing years knows that left hook to the liver is one of the most debilitating blows one person can take...

that was a LOUD, THUDDING, FLUSH SHOT.

"THE PERFECT SHOT" IS WHAT CASTILLO CALLED AND HE IS THE ONE THAT FELT IT......

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But neither of these posts answer the question.

Did Hatton win by KO or TKO?

This is a technical question based on fact and not subject to opinion. Well, everything is disputable and therefore subject to opinion, but I'm not asking about anyone's opinion.

Officially ... was it a TKO or a KO? Was he down for the entire count and therefore "counted out" (that would be a KO) or did he make it back up but indicate to Joe Cortez that he couldn't/didn't want to go on, and Joe waived it off, ending the fight and giving the victory to Hatton (that would be a TKO)

BTW, though I had a soft spot and hopes in my heart for Castillo, my vote in this thread was Hatton by KO ...

It was a KO. Cortes counted to 10.