Re: The coveted return of Wacko's Drunken Round by Round Taylor vs Pavlik!!!
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Originally Posted by SweetPea
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Originally Posted by Big_Deuce
im still mistified by the scorecards.
The scorecards should have been either 57-56 Pavlik or 57-56 Taylor. The fact they all had Taylor up by 3 or 4 points was definitely surprising.
Pavlik was fighting *Jermain Taylor* the scorecards should be no shock thats why i wanted Pavlik to TKO Taylor because i knew he would never win a decision against Taylor.
Re: The coveted return of Wacko's Drunken Round by Round Taylor vs Pavlik!!!
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Originally Posted by SweetPea
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Originally Posted by Big_Deuce
im still mistified by the scorecards.
The scorecards should have been either 57-56 Pavlik or 57-56 Taylor. The fact they all had Taylor up by 3 or 4 points was definitely surprising.
Why is that surprising, did you miss his last 5 fights? Pavlik was not going to win a decision in any way.
Re: The coveted return of Wacko's Drunken Round by Round Taylor vs Pavlik!!!
Congrats Pavlik. I'm glad to see JT's big mouth get shut."Pavlik is average,this is my coming out party," and Emmanuel Steward "Pavlik will be a tough fight...for 1 round". AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! I'm sorry,normally I would not gloat but they gave Pavlik no respect coming in and deserved it. JT had done NOTHING to warrant his big mouth. As for Kelly,I learnt not to underestimate him during the Miranda fight,I was not about to do it again.
I wonder if JT will pursue the rematch clause at 168?
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Originally Posted by SweetPea
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Originally Posted by Big_Deuce
im still mistified by the scorecards.
The scorecards should have been either 57-56 Pavlik or 57-56 Taylor. The fact they all had Taylor up by 3 or 4 points was definitely surprising.
I don't think it should come as a surprise that Taylor gets the nod on all the judges scorecards in close fights. Not at all,but it's irrelevant,thankfully.
Re: The coveted return of Wacko's Drunken Round by Round Taylor vs Pavlik!!!
Really great fight. That second round nearly had me on the floor with a cardiac arrest...but Pavlik was brave, held on and was more than competitive thereafter. Wonderful right hand to take away Taylors will!!
This week Pavlik....next week Barrera.....bring it biatches!!! ;D
Re: The coveted return of Wacko's Drunken Round by Round Taylor vs Pavlik!!!
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by 'Big' Dan McCarthy
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by JT Rock
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Originally Posted by ACEA
I had Jermaine fully in control until Pavlik caught him with that one big shot. Its a shame Pavlik looked like he was out of his depth and was running out of ideas doubt he will be champ for long.
That was dumb as dumb could be ::** Yea he had a game plan of simple 1-2's and he never deviated from that. No one at 160 could touch that kid, he can box and jab as well as busting you up
You tell em JT :coolclick: for having faith in Pavlik like me.
These jokers will disappear, you'd have to be stupid to think Pavlik is a flash in the pan, he's not perfect but at 160lbs I don't think he can be touched. Scary power, the Hearns likenesses are warranted in my opinion.
I always said Pavlik was good i had seen his fight with Bronco and few of his other fights i knew he would beat Taylor and your right no one will beat him at Middleweight he will crush em all like ants.
I want to see him fight winner of Calzaghe vs Kessler.
I don't because Pavlik would lose.
Pavlik can fight on the outside with the best of them at a distance. But Kessler or Calzaghe are bigger and better distance fighters then him and he wouldn't outbox either of them, so his only bail would be his power, but I don't think he could stop Kessler or Calzaghe.
I'd like a rematch with Taylor.
Or I want to see him fight the Middleweight everyone has seemed to forget, Felix Sturm!!!
Good job Pavlik, I picked you to lose and you won and I lost to killersheep again, I think.
Re: The coveted return of Wacko's Drunken Round by Round Taylor vs Pavlik!!!
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Originally Posted by miles
Really great fight. That second round nearly had me on the floor with a cardiac arrest...but Pavlik was brave, held on and was more than competitive thereafter. Wonderful right hand to take away Taylors will!!
This week Pavlik....next week Barrera.....bring it biatches!!! ;D
Thats the spirit Miles im undefeated so far in bets so you got nothing to worry about ;)
BARRERA BY UD.
Re: The coveted return of Wacko's Drunken Round by Round Taylor vs Pavlik!!!
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Originally Posted by Majesty
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by 'Big' Dan McCarthy
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by JT Rock
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Originally Posted by ACEA
I had Jermaine fully in control until Pavlik caught him with that one big shot. Its a shame Pavlik looked like he was out of his depth and was running out of ideas doubt he will be champ for long.
That was dumb as dumb could be ::** Yea he had a game plan of simple 1-2's and he never deviated from that. No one at 160 could touch that kid, he can box and jab as well as busting you up
You tell em JT :coolclick: for having faith in Pavlik like me.
These jokers will disappear, you'd have to be stupid to think Pavlik is a flash in the pan, he's not perfect but at 160lbs I don't think he can be touched. Scary power, the Hearns likenesses are warranted in my opinion.
I always said Pavlik was good i had seen his fight with Bronco and few of his other fights i knew he would beat Taylor and your right no one will beat him at Middleweight he will crush em all like ants.
I want to see him fight winner of Calzaghe vs Kessler.
I don't because Pavlik would lose.
Pavlik can fight on the outside with the best of them at a distance. But Kessler or Calzaghe are bigger and better distance fighters then him and he wouldn't outbox either of them, so his only bail would be his power, but I don't think he could stop Kessler or Calzaghe.
I'd like a rematch with Taylor.
Or I want to see him fight the Middleweight everyone has seemed to forget, Felix Sturm!!!
I would give Pavlik more of a chance than your giving him vs Calzaghe or Kessler.
Sturm ?? Pavlik will crush him inside of 6 rounds.
Re: The coveted return of Wacko's Drunken Round by Round Taylor vs Pavlik!!!
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Originally Posted by BoomBoom
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Originally Posted by SweetPea
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Originally Posted by Big_Deuce
im still mistified by the scorecards.
The scorecards should have been either 57-56 Pavlik or 57-56 Taylor. The fact they all had Taylor up by 3 or 4 points was definitely surprising.
Why is that surprising, did you miss his last 5 fights? Pavlik was not going to win a decision in any way.
I thought Taylor won both Hopkins fights 7-5. I scored the Winky fight 114-114. He also deserved the decision in the SPinks fight, even if it was boring.
And you say the "last 5 fights"..... are you saying Kassim Ouma deserved a victory?? Because if you are, you're nuts.
Re: The coveted return of Wacko's Drunken Round by Round Taylor vs Pavlik!!!
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by Majesty
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by 'Big' Dan McCarthy
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by JT Rock
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Originally Posted by ACEA
I had Jermaine fully in control until Pavlik caught him with that one big shot. Its a shame Pavlik looked like he was out of his depth and was running out of ideas doubt he will be champ for long.
That was dumb as dumb could be ::** Yea he had a game plan of simple 1-2's and he never deviated from that. No one at 160 could touch that kid, he can box and jab as well as busting you up
You tell em JT :coolclick: for having faith in Pavlik like me.
These jokers will disappear, you'd have to be stupid to think Pavlik is a flash in the pan, he's not perfect but at 160lbs I don't think he can be touched. Scary power, the Hearns likenesses are warranted in my opinion.
I always said Pavlik was good i had seen his fight with Bronco and few of his other fights i knew he would beat Taylor and your right no one will beat him at Middleweight he will crush em all like ants.
I want to see him fight winner of Calzaghe vs Kessler.
I don't because Pavlik would lose.
Pavlik can fight on the outside with the best of them at a distance. But Kessler or Calzaghe are bigger and better distance fighters then him and he wouldn't outbox either of them, so his only bail would be his power, but I don't think he could stop Kessler or Calzaghe.
I'd like a rematch with Taylor.
Or I want to see him fight the Middleweight everyone has seemed to forget, Felix Sturm!!!
I would give Pavlik more of a chance than your giving him vs Calzaghe or Kessler.
Sturm ?? Pavlik will crush him inside of 6 rounds.
You're serious? Sturm is a difficult style match up for Pavlik. How would Pavlik crush him inside of 6 rounds.
Next 3 fights for Pavlik I'd like before Calzaghe or Kessler are these
Taylor
Sturm
Abraham
If he beats all three then he should fight Kessler(calzaghe will be retired)
And no, I wouldn't give him that much of a chance against Calzaghe or Kessler. If he ever has to deal with someone bigger and stronger then him he'll have trouble.
Pavlik said that Taylor hurt him because he's a natural Middleweight who hit like a mule right?
How would he fare against two super middleweights with a better distance game and higher workrate?
Thats why I wouldn't want him to fight Calzaghe or Kessler
Re: The coveted return of Wacko's Drunken Round by Round Taylor vs Pavlik!!!
Im going to have to rewatch this fight i had taylor 3 point ahead till he got KOed ??? either a lot of peoples hatred for Taylor is clouding their judgemet or i got it completely wrong anyway im off its 6am n i got work @ 10
Re: The coveted return of Wacko's Drunken Round by Round Taylor vs Pavlik!!!
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Originally Posted by Majesty
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by Majesty
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by 'Big' Dan McCarthy
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by JT Rock
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Originally Posted by ACEA
I had Jermaine fully in control until Pavlik caught him with that one big shot. Its a shame Pavlik looked like he was out of his depth and was running out of ideas doubt he will be champ for long.
That was dumb as dumb could be ::** Yea he had a game plan of simple 1-2's and he never deviated from that. No one at 160 could touch that kid, he can box and jab as well as busting you up
You tell em JT :coolclick: for having faith in Pavlik like me.
These jokers will disappear, you'd have to be stupid to think Pavlik is a flash in the pan, he's not perfect but at 160lbs I don't think he can be touched. Scary power, the Hearns likenesses are warranted in my opinion.
I always said Pavlik was good i had seen his fight with Bronco and few of his other fights i knew he would beat Taylor and your right no one will beat him at Middleweight he will crush em all like ants.
I want to see him fight winner of Calzaghe vs Kessler.
I don't because Pavlik would lose.
Pavlik can fight on the outside with the best of them at a distance. But Kessler or Calzaghe are bigger and better distance fighters then him and he wouldn't outbox either of them, so his only bail would be his power, but I don't think he could stop Kessler or Calzaghe.
I'd like a rematch with Taylor.
Or I want to see him fight the Middleweight everyone has seemed to forget, Felix Sturm!!!
I would give Pavlik more of a chance than your giving him vs Calzaghe or Kessler.
Sturm ?? Pavlik will crush him inside of 6 rounds.
You're serious? Sturm is a difficult style match up for Pavlik. How would Pavlik crush him inside of 6 rounds.
Next 3 fights for Pavlik I'd like before Calzaghe or Kessler are these
Taylor
Sturm
Abraham
If he beats all three then he should fight Kessler(calzaghe will be retired)
And no, I wouldn't give him that much of a chance against Calzaghe or Kessler. If he ever has to deal with someone bigger and stronger then him he'll have trouble.
Pavlik said that Taylor hurt him because he's a natural Middleweight who hit like a mule right?
How would he fare against two super middleweights with a better distance game and higher workrate?
Thats why I wouldn't want him to fight Calzaghe or Kessler
Sturm doesn't have punching power to keep Pavlik off Pavlik would just walk through all of Sturms shots and ko him inside of 6.
Re: The coveted return of Wacko's Drunken Round by Round Taylor vs Pavlik!!!
Anyways im out i'll speak with you later Majesty good work Wacko and massive props to Pavlik peace all.
Re: The coveted return of Wacko's Drunken Round by Round Taylor vs Pavlik!!!
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Originally Posted by SweetPea
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Originally Posted by BoomBoom
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Originally Posted by SweetPea
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Originally Posted by Big_Deuce
im still mistified by the scorecards.
The scorecards should have been either 57-56 Pavlik or 57-56 Taylor. The fact they all had Taylor up by 3 or 4 points was definitely surprising.
Why is that surprising, did you miss his last 5 fights? Pavlik was not going to win a decision in any way.
I thought Taylor won both Hopkins fights 7-5. I scored the Winky fight 114-114. He also deserved the decision in the SPinks fight, even if it was boring.
And you say the "last 5 fights"..... are you saying Kassim Ouma deserved a victory?? Because if you are, you're nuts.
Just that the scorecards were way off. I thought he beat Ouma but Winky should have won and B-Hop won the first fight imo and the second won was a draw.
Re: The coveted return of Wacko's Drunken Round by Round Taylor vs Pavlik!!!
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by Majesty
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by Majesty
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by 'Big' Dan McCarthy
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by JT Rock
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Originally Posted by ACEA
I had Jermaine fully in control until Pavlik caught him with that one big shot. Its a shame Pavlik looked like he was out of his depth and was running out of ideas doubt he will be champ for long.
That was dumb as dumb could be ::** Yea he had a game plan of simple 1-2's and he never deviated from that. No one at 160 could touch that kid, he can box and jab as well as busting you up
You tell em JT :coolclick: for having faith in Pavlik like me.
These jokers will disappear, you'd have to be stupid to think Pavlik is a flash in the pan, he's not perfect but at 160lbs I don't think he can be touched. Scary power, the Hearns likenesses are warranted in my opinion.
I always said Pavlik was good i had seen his fight with Bronco and few of his other fights i knew he would beat Taylor and your right no one will beat him at Middleweight he will crush em all like ants.
I want to see him fight winner of Calzaghe vs Kessler.
I don't because Pavlik would lose.
Pavlik can fight on the outside with the best of them at a distance. But Kessler or Calzaghe are bigger and better distance fighters then him and he wouldn't outbox either of them, so his only bail would be his power, but I don't think he could stop Kessler or Calzaghe.
I'd like a rematch with Taylor.
Or I want to see him fight the Middleweight everyone has seemed to forget, Felix Sturm!!!
I would give Pavlik more of a chance than your giving him vs Calzaghe or Kessler.
Sturm ?? Pavlik will crush him inside of 6 rounds.
You're serious? Sturm is a difficult style match up for Pavlik. How would Pavlik crush him inside of 6 rounds.
Next 3 fights for Pavlik I'd like before Calzaghe or Kessler are these
Taylor
Sturm
Abraham
If he beats all three then he should fight Kessler(calzaghe will be retired)
And no, I wouldn't give him that much of a chance against Calzaghe or Kessler. If he ever has to deal with someone bigger and stronger then him he'll have trouble.
Pavlik said that Taylor hurt him because he's a natural Middleweight who hit like a mule right?
How would he fare against two super middleweights with a better distance game and higher workrate?
Thats why I wouldn't want him to fight Calzaghe or Kessler
Sturm doesn't have punching power to keep Pavlik off Pavlik would just walk through all of Sturms shots and ko him inside of 6.
Pavlik can be outboxed and Sturms a better and more balanced boxer then Taylor and he has a better defense. Doesn't he? His power wouldn't be the reason he beat Pavlik if they fought.
I'll admit Sturm hasn't looked as good lately.
I'd still liketo see Pavlik in against Abraham too.
Re: The coveted return of Wacko's Drunken Round by Round Taylor vs Pavlik!!!
Going off recent form Sturm would be crushed did you see him fight Castillejo? Abraham is the best challenger other than Taylor but I'd have Pavlik as the favourite in that fight too. No dubt for periods of the fight Taylor was winning, but he has little stamina and focus, he couldn't keep it up. I think he was a spent force after the second round, same thing happened against Ouma, he hurts them and has one big burst of energy then he isn't the same for the rest of the fight, he's kinda lazy.
