Who won? Froch? Or Dirrell?

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Originally Posted by 0james0

Anyone got the punch stats for the fight? All I remeber from both times of watching was Dirrell running and only landing a few times.

I don't particularly like Froch either, but I had him infront by a long way, simply because he was the only one fighting.

The forum seems split 50/50, interestingly though there aren't many people on the fence like you'd expect for a decision that divided opinions like this one. It's either full one way or the other clearly down to opinions on what scores points and wins rounds.

Luckily the judges scored it correctly! ;)

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the only guy who was staggered (and various times at that) was Froch, and how the hell is it 50/50, over 60 people have voted that Dirrell won compared to a handful saying Crotch won

i have only watched the fight the once and it was tough going

i dont remember froch staggered tho, and i dont remember the fouls you keep going on about

i could have it wrong

james said in his last post that the only man fighting was froch which is bang on and which is why he won

i bet i could last a few rounds in my advanced years with no boxing training with an average boxer running like dirrell, it isnt boxing, its more like tig

This is a dead horse topic if there ever was one. I think if people actually score round by round though, there is no way to give the fight to Froch. That doesn't mean Dirrell didn't fight an ugly fight, I think it's a reaction that they say just give it to Froch because Dirrell was more responsible for it being a bad fight. But if you score round by round, it's like impossible to give it to Froch imo. I had it 9-3 Dirrell, and I can retrieve my scorecard but I believe it was rounds 6,7 and 8 that I gave to Froch. Just no way he won that fight under the rules by which we could score boxing. No American or anti-Froch bias, Froch could have been my brother and I would have gave that fight to Dirrell.

i dont agree

i was scoring it round by round and froch won

you have to fight to win a fight

It's not really worth debating this with you as you're views are pretty ludicrous (as if Dirrell is the first guy to run in afight), but you score a fight by clean punching, effective aggressiveness, ring generalship and defense. Dirrell was the only guy landing any clean punches, he controlled the distance the entire fight and oh yeah he barely ever got hit by anything. Even if Froch was somehow 'effectively aggressive' for 7 of the 12 rounds, no way that overcomes everything else. I don't know, I'm over it but to me it was a robbery.

Froch definetly won

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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

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Originally Posted by 0james0

Anyone got the punch stats for the fight? All I remeber from both times of watching was Dirrell running and only landing a few times.

I don't particularly like Froch either, but I had him infront by a long way, simply because he was the only one fighting.

The forum seems split 50/50, interestingly though there aren't many people on the fence like you'd expect for a decision that divided opinions like this one. It's either full one way or the other clearly down to opinions on what scores points and wins rounds.

Luckily the judges scored it correctly! ;)

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the only guy who was staggered (and various times at that) was Froch, and how the hell is it 50/50, over 60 people have voted that Dirrell won compared to a handful saying Crotch won

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All that means is that there are more Dirrell fans that Froch fans on here. Froch is hated in this country so it explains alot.

I think its a fight that could have gone either way. Wasnt impressed with Froch but you cant win a title the way Dirrel tried to. Could have been a draw.

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Originally Posted by amat

It's not really worth debating this with you as you're views are pretty ludicrous (as if Dirrell is the first guy to run in afight), but you score a fight by clean punching, effective aggressiveness, ring generalship and defense. Dirrell was the only guy landing any clean punches, he controlled the distance the entire fight and oh yeah he barely ever got hit by anything. Even if Froch was somehow 'effectively aggressive' for 7 of the 12 rounds, no way that overcomes everything else. I don't know, I'm over it but to me it was a robbery.

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i think what you are saying is ludicrous, in fact i am amazed you can have the view that someone doing so much running and clinching can win a fight

and yeah people win fights by running, but not to that extent

perhaps its you who it is not worth having the debate with

as i have not seen the fight i am gonna say froch;D

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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

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Originally Posted by 0james0

Anyone got the punch stats for the fight? All I remeber from both times of watching was Dirrell running and only landing a few times.

I don't particularly like Froch either, but I had him infront by a long way, simply because he was the only one fighting.

The forum seems split 50/50, interestingly though there aren't many people on the fence like you'd expect for a decision that divided opinions like this one. It's either full one way or the other clearly down to opinions on what scores points and wins rounds.

Luckily the judges scored it correctly! ;)

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the only guy who was staggered (and various times at that) was Froch, and how the hell is it 50/50, over 60 people have voted that Dirrell won compared to a handful saying Crotch won

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OK I'll give you that one, the poll vote. But in actual thread comments it seems pretty even.

Still either one sided or the other, no middle, which makes me thinking everyone (including myself) is wearing some colour of tinted glasses.