Re: Maidana - Morales Fight Thread
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Originally Posted by
Bilbo
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Originally Posted by
Hulk
Morales turned in one hell of a performance. Very surprising and impressive. He WON THE FIGHT !
But once again, the judges, in their infinite wisdom screwed him.
A draw woulda been givin Maidana something, but I coulda swallowed a draw.
But a 116-112 victory for Maidana !?
Morales landed the much more accurate effective punches. He lost the last two rounds, but before that he had already won 7 rounds.
I don't think 116-112 is outside the realms of credibility.
I think the majority would concede Morales lost round 1,2,11 and 12. If they splitthe rest, that would be 116-112.
It's not impossible.
I had it a very close fight, but Maidana deserved the nod imo and 116-112 although a bit wide is hardly a corrupt score.
Bilbo, HAROLD LEDDERMAN HAD IT A DRAW.
LEDDERMAN.
The man scores for the house fighter EVERY SINGLE TIME. And he had it a fucking draw. So what does that tell you ?
Also I had the 2nd round for Morales. Morales won the fihgt and at worst got a draw, even on Harold's scorecard.
Re: Maidana - Morales Fight Thread
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Originally Posted by
Hulk
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Originally Posted by
Bilbo
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Originally Posted by
Hulk
Morales turned in one hell of a performance. Very surprising and impressive. He WON THE FIGHT !
But once again, the judges, in their infinite wisdom screwed him.
A draw woulda been givin Maidana something, but I coulda swallowed a draw.
But a 116-112 victory for Maidana !?
Morales landed the much more accurate effective punches. He lost the last two rounds, but before that he had already won 7 rounds.
I don't think 116-112 is outside the realms of credibility.
I think the majority would concede Morales lost round 1,2,11 and 12. If they splitthe rest, that would be 116-112.
It's not impossible.
I had it a very close fight, but Maidana deserved the nod imo and 116-112 although a bit wide is hardly a corrupt score.
Bilbo, HAROLD LEDDERMAN HAD IT A DRAW.
LEDDERMAN.
The man scores for the house fighter EVERY SINGLE TIME. And he had it a fucking draw. So what does that tell you ?
Also I had the 2nd round for Morales. Morales won the fihgt and at worst got a draw, even on Harold's scorecard.
I don't have a problem with his score either. It was a close fight and many rounds might have gone either way.
It's a subjective sport and we all wanted Morales to win.
Had Morales got the nod 116-112 probably nobody would have cried robbery because he was the sentimental favourite.
But if u lose the first two, and last two rounds, it's going to be hard to win the fight, and I think Morales did lose those so 116-112 isn't impossible.
I'm not saying it's my score, it's just not a robbery.
Re: Maidana - Morales Fight Thread
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Bilbo
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Originally Posted by
Hulk
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Originally Posted by
Bilbo
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Originally Posted by
Hulk
Morales turned in one hell of a performance. Very surprising and impressive. He WON THE FIGHT !
But once again, the judges, in their infinite wisdom screwed him.
A draw woulda been givin Maidana something, but I coulda swallowed a draw.
But a 116-112 victory for Maidana !?
Morales landed the much more accurate effective punches. He lost the last two rounds, but before that he had already won 7 rounds.
I don't think 116-112 is outside the realms of credibility.
I think the majority would concede Morales lost round 1,2,11 and 12. If they splitthe rest, that would be 116-112.
It's not impossible.
I had it a very close fight, but Maidana deserved the nod imo and 116-112 although a bit wide is hardly a corrupt score.
Bilbo, HAROLD LEDDERMAN HAD IT A DRAW.
LEDDERMAN.
The man scores for the house fighter EVERY SINGLE TIME. And he had it a fucking draw. So what does that tell you ?
Also I had the 2nd round for Morales. Morales won the fihgt and at worst got a draw, even on Harold's scorecard.
I don't have a problem with his score either. It was a close fight and many rounds might have gone either way.
It's a subjective sport and we all wanted Morales to win.
Had Morales got the nod 116-112 probably nobody would have cried robbery because he was the sentimental favourite.
But if u lose the first two, and last two rounds, it's going to be hard to win the fight, and I think Morales did lose those so 116-112 isn't impossible.
I'm not saying it's my score, it's just not a robbery.
Like I said I gave the 2nd to Morales, and he won 7 rounds in my book.
Love to play the Devil's advocate don't ya, you cheeky bastard.;D
Re: Maidana - Morales Fight Thread
I had Maidana ahead by one round but couldn't call the 7th so I scored it even. At least one of those rounds looked really bad for Morales at the start but Maidana wasn't landing clean. I'd have to watch it again, but now I'm wondering what the compubox stats are.
Re: Maidana - Morales Fight Thread
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Originally Posted by
Hulk
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Bilbo
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Originally Posted by
Hulk
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Originally Posted by
Bilbo
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Originally Posted by
Hulk
Morales turned in one hell of a performance. Very surprising and impressive. He WON THE FIGHT !
But once again, the judges, in their infinite wisdom screwed him.
A draw woulda been givin Maidana something, but I coulda swallowed a draw.
But a 116-112 victory for Maidana !?
Morales landed the much more accurate effective punches. He lost the last two rounds, but before that he had already won 7 rounds.
I don't think 116-112 is outside the realms of credibility.
I think the majority would concede Morales lost round 1,2,11 and 12. If they splitthe rest, that would be 116-112.
It's not impossible.
I had it a very close fight, but Maidana deserved the nod imo and 116-112 although a bit wide is hardly a corrupt score.
Bilbo, HAROLD LEDDERMAN HAD IT A DRAW.
LEDDERMAN.
The man scores for the house fighter EVERY SINGLE TIME. And he had it a fucking draw. So what does that tell you ?
Also I had the 2nd round for Morales. Morales won the fihgt and at worst got a draw, even on Harold's scorecard.
I don't have a problem with his score either. It was a close fight and many rounds might have gone either way.
It's a subjective sport and we all wanted Morales to win.
Had Morales got the nod 116-112 probably nobody would have cried robbery because he was the sentimental favourite.
But if u lose the first two, and last two rounds, it's going to be hard to win the fight, and I think Morales did lose those so 116-112 isn't impossible.
I'm not saying it's my score, it's just not a robbery.
Like I said I gave the 2nd to Morales, and he won 7 rounds in my book.
Love to play the Devil's advocate don't ya, you cheeky bastard.;D
I just think people are too quick to cry robbery. Nobody can convince me that giving rounds 1,2,11 and 12 to Maidana would be corrupt. You may give Morales the second but you can't argue if someone gave it to Maidana.
I'm just saying, you start strong and finish strong you are likely to win the fight.
It was a great fight however and personally I would accept scores up to 116-112 either way. The rounds were close, it was a real cut and thrust fight.
And I'm no devil's advocate, I just happen to be right, and like to tell you all ;D
Re: Maidana - Morales Fight Thread
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Manuel "Chubby" Medina
I missed da fight. Worked a 10 hour shift aday so i dint catch da stream. Can som1 Fill me in on how it went pliz?
Morales started slow in the 1st, but started to come on and land some good jabs, straight rights, hooks and occasional hooks.
He controlled the fight when it was in the center of the ring, but throughout the fight Maidana would back him up against the ropes and pound on him.
Morales looked hurt a couple of times but never wobbly or visibly shaken.
He got in some great exchanges with Maidana and backed him off with combination punches.
Fought his heart out, but faded in the last two rounds and had to survive an onslaught from Maidana.
Probably fight of the year.
Re: Maidana - Morales Fight Thread
I don't think Maidana prepared well for this fight as far has having a fight plan. The only time he showed anything in the fight was when he tried to over power Morales at the beginning of about 5 rounds. He looked amateurish missing a lot of his punches, it looked like he thought he'd just go in there swinging away and catch Morales and it would be over. The rest of the fight, he was either holding on or simply getting out boxed by a savvy old fighter. What got him the win was his work rate. I would not be surprised to see the compubox stats showing a pretty even fight in total connects with Maidana miss a whole lot more.
Re: Maidana - Morales Fight Thread
I also thought Morales won the second round and deserved at least a draw. 8-4 Maidana is outrageous scoring though. Maidana did finish the stronger though and clearly took 1, 11 and 12. Morales has a very good case in the majority of the other rounds.
I want to see a rematch as it was clear that Morales fought with one eye for at least 8 rounds.
Morales is faded, but clearly not shot. Obviously he had to boil down last time out against Manny and was robbed against Diaz. And once again he has put in a strong showing and with only one eye and in a weight class that we were all awestruck at Manny for attempting to have a go at.
Morales has proven a lot of people wrong and surprised a whole heap more.
Re: Maidana - Morales Fight Thread
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Manuel "Chubby" Medina
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miles
I also thought Morales won the second round and deserved at least a draw. 8-4 Maidana is outrageous scoring though. Maidana did finish the stronger though and clearly took 1, 11 and 12. Morales has a very good case in the majority of the other rounds.
I want to see a rematch as it was clear that Morales fought with one eye for at least 8 rounds.
Morales is faded, but clearly not shot. Obviously he had to boil down last time out against Manny and was robbed against Diaz. And once again he has put in a strong showing and with only one eye and in a weight class that we were all awestruck at Manny for attempting to have a go at.
Morales has proven a lot of people wrong and surprised a whole heap more.
Wat happen to Moralez eye?
Swollen from the end of the first, mostly closed by the end of the 4th. Sealed shut for the later rounds.
Most of the fight saw him fight with a damaged eye. Should have been target practice for Maidana really.
Re: Maidana - Morales Fight Thread
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Dropanuke
Told everyone it wouldn't b a ko. Maidana doesn't hit that hard, morales experience shows it was a walk in the park but only problem is he was out of weight
Dude, Maidana's selling point is his power the guy has at least a 90% ko ratio:-\
This is a testaments to Erik's chin too.