Re: Lets end the Mike Tyson debate
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Beanflicker
Who says Tyson couldn't knock out Foreman?
I certainly agree, I think people forget Tyson carriers bombs that come out you quicker than you can see from all sorts of angles. Not to mention Tyson is an overall better boxer than George, those that disregard Tyson as a boxer really have to be questioned for their boxing IQ. He has great defense, timing, power, speed and a tremendous chin. Only thing foreman has is a size advantage, but so did everyone fighting Tyson . Tyson (in his prime) destroys evander, foreman, or lennox
Re: Lets end the Mike Tyson debate
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Beanflicker
Who says Tyson couldn't knock out Foreman?
He COULD but he wouldn't.
Re: Lets end the Mike Tyson debate
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Boxer4life
Tyson (in his prime) destroys evander, foreman, or lennox
All one after the other with 1 hand behind his back??? And Tyson probably would beat up their Dads' too :rolleyes:
That's the kind of bullshit statement that really irks me about Tyson fans. He'd never beat Evander NEVER he was hard pressed to win a round vs Evander when Evander had been a 20-1 underdog a week before the fight!!!!
Maybe when Lennox Lewis was younger Tyson would have had a better chance to beat him, but again the style Lennox Lewis used was Tyson's kryptonite.
As for Foreman you all know my views on him...could Tyson hurt or knock down an old or even Prime George Foreman yes....could Tyson stop him???? Well the guy only got stopped 1 time EVER and that was by a guy who many fans consider "The Greatest of All-Time"...and newsflash Mike Tyson isn't Ali and he's not Jimmy Young either he's a different kind of fighter altogether. Foreman would scare Tyson simple as that, he'd scare him and batter him like a piƱata
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Old George Foreman would have knocked out Tyson? That's nearly as funny as throwing a hissy fit over Tyson's exact height. Jesus.......
Re: Lets end the Mike Tyson debate
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Fenster
Old George Foreman would have knocked out Tyson? That's nearly as funny as throwing a hissy fit over Tyson's exact height. Jesus.......
Fine you think that, I don't buy Tyson as a threat to Foreman
Re: Lets end the Mike Tyson debate
Long ago, I had a pal, non-boxing fan, but Boxing was red hot right then and attracting loads of casual fans.
Sugar Ray Leonard had just boxed Marvelous Marvin Hagler in '87, World Champ Iron Mike Tyson was in his prime and fighting every few months unifying Titles in '87 and was on the cover of Sports Illustrated, and highlights of his fights played on various sports shows and even regular news shows.
My pal says, "Hey, why doesn't that Sugar Ray guy fight Mike Tyson, that Sugar Ray was pretty good!"
Re: Lets end the Mike Tyson debate
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El Kabong
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Fenster
Old George Foreman would have knocked out Tyson? That's nearly as funny as throwing a hissy fit over Tyson's exact height. Jesus.......
Fine you think that, I don't buy Tyson as a threat to Foreman
We are talking about old George Foreman version, then Tyson would have beaten him like he did Ruddock, battered, bruised and beaten.
Old George struggled against Axel Schultz and Tommy, he was not a beast.
Re: Lets end the Mike Tyson debate
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Master
We are talking about old George Foreman version, then Tyson would have beaten him like he did Ruddock, battered, bruised and beaten.
Old George struggled against Axel Schultz and Tommy, he was not a beast.
Tommy Morrison ran his ass off in that fight boxing George....you telling me Tyson would have done that?
Tyson knows 1 way to fight and that 1 way wouldn't beat George....now if Tyson deliberately went for a decision win, sure he might have a better chance, but the way Tyson fought all his fights gunning for KO's yeah that's a recipe for disaster vs Foreman.
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El Kabong
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Master
We are talking about old George Foreman version, then Tyson would have beaten him like he did Ruddock, battered, bruised and beaten.
Old George struggled against Axel Schultz and Tommy, he was not a beast.
Tommy Morrison ran his ass off in that fight boxing George....you telling me Tyson would have done that?
Tyson knows 1 way to fight and that 1 way wouldn't beat George....now if Tyson deliberately went for a decision win, sure he might have a better chance, but the way Tyson fought all his fights gunning for KO's yeah that's a recipe for disaster vs Foreman.
Not the old George Foreman we are talking about, too fat and slow.
Re: Lets end the Mike Tyson debate
I say any version of George is too slow. Tyson is a guy who had comparable power to George and comparable handspeed to Ali. He also had solid defense and head/body movement. It's hard for me to picture him getting caught with those swinging uppercuts that Frazier got caught with, but to each his own I guess.
Re: Lets end the Mike Tyson debate
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Master
Not the old George Foreman we are talking about, too fat and slow.
Yes and Iron Mike would have come straight to him....that was the main reason behind Foreman's success vs Moorer. MM stopped boxing and tried to "prove a point" vs Foreman and sadly for Michael the point ended up being how Foreman could still punch....and hard.
If you're thinking Tyson was just going to waltz in there and land a haymaker overhand right and that George would just allow that then you're sorely mistaken
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I think Old George would do better against Tyson than Young George!
Old George was pretty smart in the ring, and with his thick-ass arms and high trunks he really utilized the crab defense better than almost anyone.
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El Kabong
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Master
Not the old George Foreman we are talking about, too fat and slow.
Yes and Iron Mike would have come straight to him....that was the main reason behind Foreman's success vs Moorer. MM stopped boxing and tried to "prove a point" vs Foreman and sadly for Michael the point ended up being how Foreman could still punch....and hard.
If you're thinking Tyson was just going to waltz in there and land a haymaker overhand right and that George would just allow that then you're sorely mistaken
Moorer had a china chin.
Tyson never went straight at an opponent he move from side to side, had head movement and blistering combinations, the version that would have fought old Foreman was still good enough to do it and win.
Re: Lets end the Mike Tyson debate
How the funk can you make a case for Old Foreman beating Tyson through Moorer?
Moorer was knocked down about 3 million times during his career. Tyson was stopped after getting a savage beating.
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Moorer also beat the crap out of Foreman for nearly every minute of the fight until he was one punched, Foreman wouldn't have held up to Tyson landing half as much. This thread is such a ruin though:D