Joshua vs Martin -- Plus Undercard.

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Originally Posted by Master

Haye said AJ will probably fight twice this year as will David and then they will meet next year.

Fury is too good for AJ just yet.

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I don't buy that at all. Besides the Klitschko win, which had as much to do with Wlad not knowing what to do with a guy who was similarly sized as it did to do with Tyson's ability, Fury hasn't done anything to suggest he is any better than AJ. AJ has a big advantage in almost all categories barring experience. Fury befuddled Klitschko because Wlad is scared of getting hit and Wlad couldn't deal with the possibility of someone beating him to the punch. He's too risk cautious to let his hands go in that scenario. AJ certainly wouldn't be worried by that knowing his power is far greater than Tyson's. If Steve Cunningham can land and put him down, AJ sends him on a sleeping holiday.

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Originally Posted by smashup

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Originally Posted by Memphis

Joshua said he would show levels, it took less than 6 minutes for Charles Martin to realise his level is somewhere south of Anthony Joshua's.

Lovely timing from Joshua, those fast counter right hands will be too good for most fighters. Job well done. You've got to hand it to Martin. He's won and lost a heavyweight title, made a fuck load of money and no one knows if he can actually fight. My guess is he drifts away into obscurity now.

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Very true... I was Shocked at how static AJ's head is too...no movement at all and zero footwork....
Mad thing is when i say we learned Nothing new about AJ he's got a title and we've yet to see him in with an Athletic puncher....Wilder, Haye .... He's more or less untested still at elite level but has a title

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That's the one thing I noticed. He doesn't move his head too much, but I think it helps his balance when setting his punches. He's athletic but he doesn't bounce around the ring like Haye does. He's quite a straight fighter and he knows what he can do and what he can't do. He seems to just throw straight punches. The 1-2 and the counter and he's very good at it. Before the opponent has figured it out or timed, he's on his arse because the speed is so surprising.

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Originally Posted by ono

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Originally Posted by Master

Haye said AJ will probably fight twice this year as will David and then they will meet next year.

Fury is too good for AJ just yet.

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I don't buy that at all. Besides the Klitschko win, which had as much to do with Wlad not knowing what to do with a guy who was similarly sized as it did to do with Tyson's ability, Fury hasn't done anything to suggest he is any better than AJ. AJ has a big advantage in almost all categories barring experience. Fury befuddled Klitschko because Wlad is scared of getting hit and Wlad couldn't deal with the possibility of someone beating him to the punch. He's too risk cautious to let his hands go in that scenario. AJ certainly wouldn't be worried by that knowing his power is far greater than Tyson's. If Steve Cunningham can land and put him down, AJ sends him on a sleeping holiday.

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Fury will mess with AJ's mind before their fight and if Joshua has not gone the distance in the time they meet then Antony will be in deep trouble. Joshua can hit but has he got the stamina and Fury will box his ears off until later in the fight. Easy work for Tyson Fury.

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Originally Posted by Master

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Originally Posted by ono

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Originally Posted by Master

Haye said AJ will probably fight twice this year as will David and then they will meet next year.

Fury is too good for AJ just yet.

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I don't buy that at all. Besides the Klitschko win, which had as much to do with Wlad not knowing what to do with a guy who was similarly sized as it did to do with Tyson's ability, Fury hasn't done anything to suggest he is any better than AJ. AJ has a big advantage in almost all categories barring experience. Fury befuddled Klitschko because Wlad is scared of getting hit and Wlad couldn't deal with the possibility of someone beating him to the punch. He's too risk cautious to let his hands go in that scenario. AJ certainly wouldn't be worried by that knowing his power is far greater than Tyson's. If Steve Cunningham can land and put him down, AJ sends him on a sleeping holiday.

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Fury will mess with AJ's mind before their fight and if Joshua has not gone the distance in the time they meet then Antony will be in deep trouble. Joshua can hit but has he got the stamina and Fury will box his ears off until later in the fight. Easy work for Tyson Fury.

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Easy work? 😂😂 if it were to go into the late rounds, AJ Would be in trouble, it's true his stamina isn't proven. But can Fury take AJ's power for 12 rounds?
This isn't knee jerk, because I haven't even seen last night's fight.
I've said for a long time , Fury is a skilful boxer for his size if you let him be. But I don't think he's the same when he is put under pressure.
I don't think Fury is Chinny, in fact I'm certain that he is extremely game and has bags of heart, but AJ has that golden equaliser in HW Boxing......POWER.
I don't like predicting fights that aren't set because timing can make a massive difference, but if they fought tomorrow, AJ KO's him, not necessarily early, depends on Fury's heart.
Ps. Charles Martin is a wanker! How can he lose the HW title and say he's not upset? He basically sold something what every boxer would give their right arm for, the HW title.

That so called 'fight' was pathetic.

Martin looked soft and flabby to me, I didn't swallow any of the shit that the media were spouting. He came out upright and jerky. Simply pawed with his jab and was completely open for the right down the pipe.

It didn't look a very heavy knockdown to me, then either he was stunned and missed the referees count ..... or he threw the fight.

That was not a fight, or even a boxing match. Ali outfought and outclassed a fearsome Liston to win his title, Foreman annihilated the great Joe Frazier. Even Trevor Berbick went down swinging against Mike Tyson.

Charles Martin did absolutely NOTHING. He shouldn't get paid for that.

Martin got paid to give up his belt and was delighted to do so. General public really have no clue when it comes to boxing. They are basically WWE fans won over by promotion and story lines. Anyone who can judge boxing knew that fight wasnt lasting wrong and was only going to be one winner.

Charles Martin = Audley Harrison

The only difference was he was lucky enough to win a title.

All aftertimers should be tortured to death. Fact.

For the record - AJ will iron Fury inside 3 rounds too.

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Originally Posted by Fenster

All aftertimers should be tortured to death. Fact.

For the record - AJ will iron Fury inside 3 rounds too.

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I am not an after timer.

Fury beats Joshua, who is being managed very well.

I wasn't referring to you mate.

You're a boring ponce that constantly repeats himself. I know what you say before you say it.

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Originally Posted by Fenster

I wasn't referring to you mate.

You're a boring ponce that constantly repeats himself. I know what you say before you say it.

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OK why do you think that I think that Fury will beat Joshua?

Fury would beat Joshua. Is Joshua better than Klitschko?

Would Jason Gavern have got in to the 3rd with Klitschko?

Would Whyte have got to the 7th with Klitschko?

Martin would have probably be wiped in in the first too!

Its the perfect set up for Fury. Joshua still has no real experience under his belt and judging by the proposed first defence he still wont.

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Originally Posted by Master

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Originally Posted by Fenster

I wasn't referring to you mate.

You're a boring ponce that constantly repeats himself. I know what you say before you say it.

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OK why do you think that I think that Fury will beat Joshua?

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Because Fury is a white man.

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Originally Posted by Master

Charles Martin = Audley Harrison

The only difference was he was lucky enough to win a title.

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To be fair to you, unlike most others in Saddo this is what you said BEFORE the Martin Joshua fight

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Originally Posted by Master

He is. Martin will get sparked.

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Originally Posted by Master

A J will knock him out early because of his big right hand which is taylor made to hurt southpaws. The left hook will also cause damage.

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Originally Posted by Master

Joshua will win comprehensively.

Martin will try and take him out in the later rounds and hope AJ is another Bruno. I think Joshua is world class even if he is fighting for an alphabet title too early.

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So yeah, I suppose your prediction was right, there a lot people in Saddo and to be honest in the public at large, who are being all wise after the event, even though they predicted that Martin will win or at least give Joshua serious trouble

I want AJ to get some rounds in and experience against truly world class fighters. If he does that then he can unify the division.

Fury is a maverick and just may be too bloody minded to let AJ do it.