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Has Fury ever been noticeably out of shape for a fight? Genuinely asking. If he’s able to do what he wants to do in there, that will be keep things at a low pace and box. Naturally people will make it about his condition, as he got so fat and out of his tree during the lay-off, but it’s going to boil down to raw ability and being able to execute a plan. If it becomes a dog fight for any length, it’s going to get ugly for Fury.
Wilder's team should know that setting a fast pace is to their advantage. Depending on where Fury is at this stage, I'm not sure Wilder can enforce that tho. I have a feeling this will be a horrible fight to watch.Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
I honestly don't think his physical shape good or bad would stop him from fighting how he does...it's all reach, upper body movement, and balance, he's got exceptional footwork for a big man.Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
I think he could be a bit out of shape vs Wilder and it wouldn't impact his performance one way or the other.
Not sure Wilder would work the body anyway
Tyson Fury vs Deontay Wilder: Freddie Roach and Ricky Hatton to be in Brit’s corner on fight night
Both Freddie Roach and Ricky Hatton will be in Tyson Fury’s corner for his WBC Heavyweight Championship bout against Deontay Wilder on 1 December.
Fury has spent his training camp in the San Bernardino mountains at Roach’s Big Bear training facility in California and the legendary coach is believed to have been a constant presence in his camp alongside primary trainer Ben Davison.
Roach has previously worked with the likes of Manny Pacquiao, Miguel Cotto, James Toney and Amir Khan and is considered to be one of the best trainers in the history of the sport.
In an interview with Sports Illustrated, Roach said:
“He asked me if I’d work in his corner. He asked me if I could do cuts. I said, ‘Yeah, I have guys better than me though.’ He said, ‘Do you know what you’re doing?’ And I said, ‘Of course I do - I have everything you need.’ So I’m the cut man.”
“I like him - he’s very positive and he has a good idea of how he is going to win this fight,” Roach said. “He’s got good legs, he feints well. He’s a talented guy.”
Both Freddie Roach and Ricky Hatton will be in Tyson Fury’s corner for his WBC Heavyweight Championship bout against Deontay Wilder on 1 December.
Fury has spent his training camp in the San Bernardino mountains at Roach’s Big Bear training facility in California and the legendary coach is believed to have been a constant presence in his camp alongside primary trainer Ben Davison.
Roach has previously worked with the likes of Manny Pacquiao, Miguel Cotto, James Toney and Amir Khan and is considered to be one of the best trainers in the history of the sport.
In an interview with Sports Illustrated, Roach said:
“He asked me if I’d work in his corner. He asked me if I could do cuts. I said, ‘Yeah, I have guys better than me though.’ He said, ‘Do you know what you’re doing?’ And I said, ‘Of course I do - I have everything you need.’ So I’m the cut man.”
“I like him - he’s very positive and he has a good idea of how he is going to win this fight,” Roach said. “He’s got good legs, he feints well. He’s a talented guy.”
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Expect ticket price slashes coming soon.
They really failed with this card. Not 1 fighter from LA on the card. This should have been in the UK.
Where you getting the info on ticket sales?
Was only 7000 sold up till last weekend in a venue that seats 21,000.
That's piss poor. I can understand why it's not selling like others do but not why it's that bad.
I would say "What about the card as a whole".....it's actually not all that bad of a card though, should be some very interesting, entertaining fights going on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark TKO
That said, California at the time is a place on fire.....LITERALLY....so perhaps folks ain't all excited about heading to the fights as they typically would be if it didn't look like Hell itself was rising out of the San Andreas
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Originally Posted by El KabongI would say "What about the card as a whole".....it's actually not all that bad of a card though, should be some very interesting, entertaining fights going on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark TKO
That said, California at the time is a place on fire.....LITERALLY....so perhaps folks ain't all excited about heading to the fights as they typically would be if it didn't look like Hell itself was rising out of the San Andreas
Yeah good point about the fires. Which just brings to the forefront the question as to why Staples Center in L.A. was chosen in the first place. Seems Wilder is playing tic-tac-toe around the established places for boxing. Alabama won't cut it anymore... so he goes to Barclay in Brooklyn (what... no MSG?). Now he hits the revered boxing site Staples Center in boxing-mad L.A. Las Vegas it seems, was missed by the pilots who continued on to Los Angeles.
Yeah... it all makes a lot of sense. :rolleyes:
I don't place all the blame on Wilder....could he have been managed and promoted better? Yeah I guess, but he could have also been pushed way too fast and already be a nobody. He could EASILY be another Michael Grant and not to dis Michael Grant too much, but hey he didn't have much of a following either.
I think American boxing fans celebrate a few things, tenacity, heart, excitement, and quality....been hard to tell honestly with Wilder which of those he TRULY has and American fans have been burned before. I think they're being very cautious with the guy because they don't want to get stung again.....it kind of sucks to have faith in a fighter and just see them fail miserably.
I remember having all the faith in the world over Andy Lee and then just seeing that guy peak at what I considered a very low point for his ability, it just makes you jaded. And you look at the American heavyweight scene since the era of Tyson, Holyfield, Bowe, and it's just a wasteland of one hit wonders, giant duds, and guys who had their careers cut short by injury.
Wilder just a minority sport in the US, fight 40 nonces for less viewers than the wrestling, or even worse MMA! Fury has an easy night acting like a pub bouncer with the local hooligan. Fair play to Warren, and I'm not a fan, he saw his opportunity and took it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpha
I'm no Wilder fan, but I'd be happy for him to win this. You know, Fury reached the top and threw it away. It's great what he's done to get back to this stage, but he might have blown it.
Wilder's still grinding to get to the top.
Full Card -
12 – WBC heavyweight title
Deontay Wilder v Tyson Fury
12 IBF/WBA/IBO super welterweight titles
Jarrett Hurd v Jason Welborn
12 – vacant IBF minimumweight title
Mark Anthony Barriga v Carlos Licona
10 – heavyweight
Luis Ortiz v Travis Kauffman
10 – heavyweight
Joe Joyce v Joe Hanks
10 – heavyweight
Chris Arreola v Maurenzo Smith
10 – light heavyweight
Anthony Yarde v TBA
8 – super featherweight
Isaac Lowe v Lucas Baez
8 – super bantamweight
Jesse Rodriguez v Axel Vega
4 – cruiserweight
Marsellos Wilder v David Damore
Piss poor undercard, really dreadful. There was talk initially of Santa Cruz vs GARY Russell and Mares vs gervonta davis, I think those fights are even still happening at a later date? Lsc and Mares are both from LA and sell tickets, and those fights would have made it a mega event for any boxing fan. I’d almost guarantee the numbers they would have propped this card up by would have made any demands they had as far as purses been well worth it. You have to think someone really shit the bed here.