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She was born in London England. Her parents are from Uganda. One of her set of Grandparents are from India. That would be like me claiming to be from Ireland because my Nan was born there.Quote:
Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell
She has the same hostile attitude to asylum seekers as you do. She is a Thatcherite extremist who broke the ministerial code and bullies and harasses her staff. Another establishment politician from the tobacco and alcohol corporate globalists who you seem to love defending.
That you would deny her Englishness is very telling. Unlike you I did not make any vile comments about her at all.
Only facts.
You have nothing but baseless accusations and childish opinions.
FACT.
Thank you for admitting you are a misogynist and a racist for attacking Ms Patel.
Fucking hell, listen to him! I’ll take it that this was your effort to display ironic humour.Quote:
Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBellHa! And what, precisely, is so fucking new about THAT admission? LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraI know it won’t happen, I just wanted to know if you had some options in mind, and to be fair you do.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanzPatel is not only an idiot she has proven she cannot be trusted with her illegal actions when working under May. She has had nearly a year to sort out the borders, that is her department and as usual like the rest of them they blame everyone else. This is the woman consorting with a foreign government behind the then serving Prime ministers back. Her feet should not have touched the ground but instead of criminal charges Johnson made her home Secretary. They are so out of touch with reality. Sunak's wife is richer than the Queen ffs and he as chancellor has not declared that money in the ministerial register. They are so corrupt it is impossible to overstate their guilt. Look at Sunak and Johnson encouraging people to eat out and meet at Christmas. Nearly half of the deaths happened since November.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraOk, Boris is a plank, Hancock is fucking useless, Williamson not much better. I actually think Priti Patel is a pretty tough no nonsense cunt, and Rishi , who scored all the brownie points early doors with his giveaways has gone a bit quiet of late (probably skint!)Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
But get rid of them all, and who would YOU put in their place?
I don’t care which party, just want to get a feel for who you think would be best at managing this shit show.
They should be locked up.
Anyone would be better. I really mean that. Right across the political spectrum. From Thatcher to Corbyn nobody could have done a worse job.
From the start they should have used the best minds across parties. This is worse than a war casualty wise.
Rosena Allin-Khan who has a Masters degree in Public Health. Not Politics and Philosophy like most of Parliament and still works shifts as a Doctor in her local hospitals Emergency department. You put her in the war cabinet. You bring in Starmer and Ainsworth until it is under control.
You get old experienced heads too like Ken Clarke to get things done, you consort with Brown and Major.
It will not happen because Johnson doesn't like people of principle, they are too likely to confront him and hold him to account. Look at how they scorched the earth in clearing out any Conservative MP with a conscience so they could bung money to their mates.
The problem is that whoever you hypothetically put in power, they would spend all their time blaming heir predecessors.its how it’s always been.
I know that’s negative, but it’s true.
What’s the answer ? I haven’t got a fucking clue.
The guy who at some stage in a single term of office has backed all 3 parties in his country!
The guy who banged on about mask wearing for months , then when one of the parties he was following at the time had a flakey attitude towards it, he agreed with them.
The guy who has taken this pandemic Uber seriously (rightly so) , but when a possible way out of it arises, like a vaccine, he Runs away from it like it’s gonna kill him. ;D
What exactly is wrong with what she said? "The damage and destruction at the barracks was deeply offensive to the taxpayers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
Why are there so many "asylum seekers" and where are they from?
you cant even ASK what percent of these "seekers" are just piling on, faking it, going along for the ride, getting fake docs printed in Greece/Turkey on their way to Europe, you cant even ASK what percentage of them are full of shit, without being accused of racism.
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Originally Posted by El KabongWhat exactly is wrong with what she said? "The damage and destruction at the barracks was deeply offensive to the taxpayers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
Why are there so many "asylum seekers" and where are they from?
It was not a riot as she claimed. Nobody was arrested or injured. I would not expect somebody like you who just called Limbaugh a legend to understand. A man who mocked people with HIV and thought Micheal J Fox was exaggerating his Parkinson's symptoms. To demonise already desperate people seems to give you and Brock some kind of sick thrill, but it is not the kind of thing a British Home secretary should be delighting in. She has courted extremists like you two fellas her whole career.
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Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell
You are not interested in facts anyway. Your relationship with reality and what is true is shaky at best. A little kindness and empathy in life goes a long way but it seems you have more sympathy for fucking flies than human beings.
Again you go from agreeing that Johnson should resign, to pretending that his Goon show of heartless incompetent negligent thieving bastards are somehow the victims, when you think it will ingratiate you with those that support the twat.
I’m pretty (Priti?) sure she was born in London, educated in the UK and lived all her life here.Quote:
Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell
Her parents came from Uganda ....... :rolleyes:
Same as AOC was born in The Bronx, USA and educated in the USA and lived here all her life, though Beanz was trying to deny her American-ness, by accusing ---for the umpteenth time--- "wacism!". Everyone knows she's American-born, so his accusations of racism are null and void, as usual. Moot. See, he cant have his cake and eat it, too. So I gave him back his own medicine with Patel. To expose the faultiness and hypocrisy of his reasoning. As for Ms. Pretty Priti, At the minimum Beanz is now forced by his own illogic to label himself a misogynist for it, since even Beanz knows deep down inside though he will never admit it, that bartending has fuck all to do with gender, as he disingenuously insisted that it did.Quote:
Originally Posted by XI’m pretty (Priti?) sure she was born in London, educated in the UK and lived all her life here.Quote:
Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell
Her parents came from Uganda ....... :rolleyes:
Not once did I deny that AOC was American. You can lie and pretend that I did as though that would make any difference whatsoever, but anybody can go back and see, THAT NEVER HAPPENED.Quote:
Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBellSame as AOC was born in The Bronx, USA and educated in the USA and lived here all her life, though Beanz was trying to deny her American-ness, by accusing ---for the umpteenth time--- "wacism!". Everyone knows she's American-born, so his accusations of racism are null and void, as usual. Moot. See, he cant have his cake and eat it, too. So I gave him back his own medicine with Patel. To expose the faultiness and hypocrisy of his reasoning. As for Ms. Pretty Priti, At the minimum Beanz is now forced by his own illogic to label himself a misogynist for it, since even Beanz knows deep down inside though he will never admit it, that bartending has fuck all to do with gender, as he disingenuously insisted that it did.Quote:
Originally Posted by XI’m pretty (Priti?) sure she was born in London, educated in the UK and lived all her life here.Quote:
Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell
Her parents came from Uganda ....... :rolleyes:
I criticized Patel's word and actions, not because she was a woman, but because she is a bully. She should have been sacked and if it were not for Johnson, not for the first time, standing in the way of due legal process and making sure it did not happen, she would have been.
She is about as Establishment as you can be, and utterly devoid of empathy, which is clearly why you feel compelled to defend her. That decision will be disputed in the High Court.
This is what is so frustrating, you parrot all this fashionable bullshit about challenging the establishment to upset the apple cart, and stand up for the underdogs who get forgotten, but actually all you ever do is defend it and harangue anyone for daring to challenge the status quo.
That is what was behind your enmity and anger at AOC. She is clearly a very talented skillful woman, far better at debating than myself or you , in fact i would suggest anybody here on the forum. Yet all you could think of was referring to her previous work as a waitress or barmaid/manager, whatever she did, rather than tackle the content of her policy proposals.
You again are hooked on policing language, and finding people out, the most PC of worthless pastimes and it is beyond boring.
Except that 50-60% of what you just said is drivel. I agree with you on Patel's handling of the airport situation, way too little and way too late. But you denied Americanness when you cried racism to me about it, because it cant be racist IN YOUR OWN LOGIC, if she is American/if Patel is British. SO you got your own (illogical) medicine there. Now take it like a man.
The "shithole" I referred to that you wanted to believe was outside the US and thereby making it a racist comment was, in fact, the very same shithole THAT I AM FROM, NAMELY, NEW YORK CITY, THE BRONX, BROOKLYN, QUEENS. BAck to that shithole as opposed to living in pompous, political, DC. Back to that shithole in The Bronx to face her constituents who she fucked over. And in addition you will not admit that yes, men can bartend too, so quite how it was misogynist is also the mystery that will never be solved.
YOu think (wrongly) that only YOU can judge a woman "on her words", BUT IF OTHERS DO IT, IT MUSTN BE ON THEIR WORDS, IT MUST BE SOMETHING MORE SINISTER, BECAUSE YOU JUST KNOW..... but you know little if anything of the 65,000+ jobs AOC cost her district by insanely running out OF TOWN a huge new construction of an Amazon warehouse RIGHT IN THE BRONX WHICH HAS LIKE A 40% UNEMPLOYMENT RATE. I too judge her merits on her words and deeds. But you will never accept that. YOu will just continue as Lyle rightly says to cry racist/misogynist without even stopping to ASK what the reasons were.
If I, a man who lives near Mexico, can agree with you in part now about Patel, about her airport fiasco, then surely you can see why TENS, IF NOT HUNDREDS, OF THOUSANDS OF NEW YORKERS detest AOC for squandering that warehouse which would have tremendously helped out the ailing Bronx community.
If she couldnt see that, she has no business representing her district, WHICH TRUST ME AS I LIVED THERE TWICE, Spanish Harlem 1998-1999 (East 111th & 2nd Ave) and 2001-2002 (East 114th & 1st Ave), is in dire fucking need of jobs, jobs, jobs. And she fucked them over. Perhaps you didnt know, but its all about shit like that that makes MANY MANY people criticize her, even from her very own district. Maybe she SHOULD just be a bartender. Because she blew it. Those people there are suffering and she fucked them over.
Now take your knee-jerk namecalling and go get your shine box.
Patel is British.
She is also part of the establishment haviing worked her way up from representing huge tobacco and alcohol corporations and into the heart of government. She has repeatedly broke the minsterial code and was forced to resign after secret unauthorised meetings with senior Israelis under previous PM May.
That is not drivel it is a fact. Just like her being found guilty of bullying by a tribunal is not an opinion, it is a fact.
Nearly 120 000 British citizens are dead because of Johnson and Patel's lack of empathy and criminal negligence.
That is not drivel.
You pretending that you give a shit about the unemployed of the Bronx is drivel. Amazon wanted a 3 Billion dollar tax break. AOC rightly objected to that and the terrible track record they have as employers.
Again there you are defending the globalist elite. Corporations, exactly like I said you would.
And you have the cheek to call me disingenuous.
And stop with the strawman arguments and blatant lies. Absolutely nowhere have I ever claimed that men cannot bartend too. Why would I claim that? Just bullshit again.
AOC at 28 is remarkable. Wanting to invest in health, green energy and education is not about fucking people over at all.
Go and bow down to Bezos and Trump and stop pretending.
Now you are back to doubling down and Insisting she go back to bartending anyway.
Billy Bullshit.
1% and a fucking badge?
It is beyond horrific.
Slow hand clap for the bastards throwing Billions down the drain or more accurately into their pals and families bank accounts and then in the case of Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson, ..the the absolute bag of shite disgrace, giving the very people that saved his life the middle finger.
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who are those people in the illustration?Quote:
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Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBellwho are those people in the illustration?Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
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Matt Hancock the Secretary of State for Health and Social Care and a Nurse representing the NHS.
He is responsible for the shambolic and criminally corrupt response to the Covid Pandemic and has been one of the bastards handing out Government Covid-19 contracts to Tory donors, friends and colleagues from day one. He has failed on PPE, test and trace, and the communication of even the most basic advice. Found like multiple members of the current cabinet, including the Prime Minister to have acted unlawfully, the people always claiming to be neutral and not trusting any politicians have been curiously quiet as these bastards fuck the country over. Go figure that one out.
Until the current Government stepped aside and let the NHS, a national organisation actually qualified to do so, handle anything, they have failed abysmally. They have enriched themselves at other people's expense and costs thousands of unnecessary deaths.
That is the CARE BADGE patronisingly bestowed upon NHS workers as though like the empty claps people could use it for anything useful.
It is amazing how the people who voted these cunts in have remained silent while they fucked over the elderly, teachers, the population at large and now the NHS many of whom have lost their lives saving others, including Johnsnon and Hancock the shameless monsters.
Well to me, I remember in the autumn Matt Hancock insisted that vaccines were on their way. According to reports at the time, he was lambasted with disbelief by other government departments. “Hancockian” became synonymous I guess I would call it among ministers, with implausible optimism. I think you would agree with that much...Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanzQuote:
Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBellwho are those people in the illustration?Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
Painting
Matt Hancock the Secretary of State for Health and Social Care and a Nurse representing the NHS.
He is responsible for the shambolic and criminally corrupt response to the Covid Pandemic and has been one of the bastards handing out Government Covid-19 contracts to Tory donors, friends and colleagues from day one. He has failed on PPE, test and trace, and the communication of even the most basic advice. Found like multiple members of the current cabinet, including the Prime Minister to have acted unlawfully, the people always claiming to be neutral and not trusting any politicians have been curiously quiet as these bastards fuck the country over. Go figure that one out.
Until the current Government stepped aside and let the NHS, a national organisation actually qualified to do so, handle anything, they have failed abysmally. They have enriched themselves at other people's expense and costs thousands of unnecessary deaths.
That is the CARE BADGE patronisingly bestowed upon NHS workers as though like the empty claps people could use it for anything useful.
It is amazing how the people who voted these cunts in have remained silent while they fucked over the elderly, teachers, the population at large and now the NHS many of whom have lost their lives saving others, including Johnsnon and Hancock the shameless monsters.
Now 10 million of you all there have received their first jab, a MUCH MUCH higher proportion than in any other big country. Altho I wont be getting the vax, I feel the decision to spread doses to maximize coverage looks pretty solid. The UK from my research has improved its manufacturing base, and is more than ready for another round of vaccines if required by new variants. (I saw you got the missing person in Croydon with the P-! Brazil variant today.)
But even if he was 2 weeks late, there was a global shortage of PPE and he needed to buy PPE to save lives. Furthermore, the contract that went to his pub friend at Hinpack was found, atleast by my preliminary research, to NOT be unlawful. SO yeah he was late with the publishing, but I theink he and his team were going 24/7 buying PPE which there was a global shortage of, and luckily you guys didnt run out,
I don’t think the Health Secretary should gain credit for the purchasing of PPE or the Vaccine,those are Governmental calls.Quote:
Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBellWell to me, I remember in the autumn Matt Hancock insisted that vaccines were on their way. According to reports at the time, he was lambasted with disbelief by other government departments. “Hancockian” became synonymous I guess I would call it among ministers, with implausible optimism. I think you would agree with that much...Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanzQuote:
Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBellwho are those people in the illustration?Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
Painting
Matt Hancock the Secretary of State for Health and Social Care and a Nurse representing the NHS.
He is responsible for the shambolic and criminally corrupt response to the Covid Pandemic and has been one of the bastards handing out Government Covid-19 contracts to Tory donors, friends and colleagues from day one. He has failed on PPE, test and trace, and the communication of even the most basic advice. Found like multiple members of the current cabinet, including the Prime Minister to have acted unlawfully, the people always claiming to be neutral and not trusting any politicians have been curiously quiet as these bastards fuck the country over. Go figure that one out.
Until the current Government stepped aside and let the NHS, a national organisation actually qualified to do so, handle anything, they have failed abysmally. They have enriched themselves at other people's expense and costs thousands of unnecessary deaths.
That is the CARE BADGE patronisingly bestowed upon NHS workers as though like the empty claps people could use it for anything useful.
It is amazing how the people who voted these cunts in have remained silent while they fucked over the elderly, teachers, the population at large and now the NHS many of whom have lost their lives saving others, including Johnsnon and Hancock the shameless monsters.
Now 10 million of you all there have received their first jab, a MUCH MUCH higher proportion than in any other big country. Altho I wont be getting the vax, I feel the decision to spread doses to maximize coverage looks pretty solid. The UK from my research has improved its manufacturing base, and is more than ready for another round of vaccines if required by new variants. (I saw you got the missing person in Croydon with the P-! Brazil variant today.)
But even if he was 2 weeks late, there was a global shortage of PPE and he needed to buy PPE to save lives. Furthermore, the contract that went to his pub friend at Hinpack was found, atleast by my preliminary research, to NOT be unlawful. SO yeah he was late with the publishing, but I theink he and his team were going 24/7 buying PPE which there was a global shortage of, and luckily you guys didnt run out,
But he can be criticised for advising too late on PPE amongst other decisions he was too late with.
True that’s not all down to him, but he’s definitely partly responsible.
And it is widely thought that the reason the vaccine rollout has been an unquestionable success is because it was run by the NHS rather than contracted to independent organisations that are run by his mates to make a royal fuck up of!
Yep, the same NHS that are bailing him out is worthy of no more than a 1% pay rise.
I suppose what I’m trying to really say is , Basically Hancock is a prick.
The esteemed conservative Journalist Peter Oborne on Johnson
"We no longer value things that matter...If you believe that truth and honesty is important, as I do, and i think most people do, then you must believe there is something awful at the heart of this government, and a society ...that bases itself on deceit and falsehood, and rewards it, is a society which is in not just moral danger but in actual danger"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlHzwtFNleQ
If I had to spend 11 billion quid, I'd start out with 3 very big, nice, round pizzas, well-done, with nice grilled eggplant and anchovies. That would spend me about 30 quid right there. I'd then buy 3 very nice, big, ice cold 1.5 liter bottles of Red Moscato or even Riesling, and that could run 20 quid. So I've spent 50 right there.
11 billion quid.....hmmmm.... I know, I would buy every Bitcoin from @walrus
Its amazing how much money these govts have. Tens, even hundreds of billions of pounds -- yet my street cannot get a few rather dangerous potholes filled with asphalt because the city doesnt have enough money.....
Well in the US it’s funneled to the public employee unions which is funneled back to politicians via donations it’s a club, been going on for yearsQuote:
Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell
Works even worse than that, even before Unions, private companies/criminals pay off politicians for business breaks, ignoring monopolies and illegal practices.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrusWell in the US it’s funneled to the public employee unions which is funneled back to politicians via donations it’s a club, been going on for yearsQuote:
Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell
Winston: "who is 20 and a conservative has no heart, but who is 50 and liberal has no brain."
were gonna win the sport of covid
Brandon Lewis better get off his ass and start talking and that Michael Martin dude better start talking to Boris Johnson
They are destroying one another now.
That all he makes in a year ? wowQuote:
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That isn't enough to keep Princess Toothy Spunk Trumpet happy.
Johnson "Chaos isn't that bad, Chaos means everyone has to look to me to see who is in charge."
Cummings has revealed that what looked like a tin of shortcake is actually full of maggots.
On why Johnson has not got rid of Hancock "There is certainly no GOOD reason for keeping him" “criminal, disgraceful behaviour that caused serious harm”
It is damning stuff and is happening live now
Cummings describes Johnson as someone who 'changes his mind 10 times a day'
Tens of thousands died needlessly
And STILL people are defending Johnson.
Nearly 3 years after that vote we found ourselves without brexit . the date we were due to leave by British law was just frankly ignored and many said the populist revolt was over and we people didn't know what we voted for and that brexit would never happen and we launched a grassroots revolt back against The Establishment which I was very proud of and now we have brexit. WE ARE OUT. WE ARE FREE. THE DEAL MAY NOT BE PERFECT BUT IT'S A LOT BETTER THAN IT WAS BEFORE. Here's the thing 70% approval rating now for brexit 70% and the rest of Europe is looking at that too into the bargain our labor party which it always be a patriotic left of center party became a globalist party opposed to brexit holy unconcerned by open borders and mass legal and illegal immigration.
The final kicker was Cancel culture which means that what you do is you eradicate your nation's history and teach your children in schools they should be ashamed of who they are and you know what's happened now, working class Briton's in their millions and millions, feel alienated by the new socialist internationalist labor party. they deserted it and socialism is now dead on the floor it won't come back for decades I promise you.
Whilst I disagree with a lot of what you wrote at least it made some sense to what you have been normally posting.Quote:
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Originally Posted by MasterWhilst I disagree with a lot of what you wrote at least it made some sense to what you have been normally posting.Quote:
Originally Posted by zoley
It is an alt. You could see it from 'MILES' away. The unexplained hostility and that utter pile of blatant lies above just confirms it.