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I think Trump wins this.
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Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell
He COULD.
But I bet right now Trump and the GOP are wishing damn Nevada had 5 electoral votes instead of 6. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
I don’t mean to goad anybody on here who is a Trump voter, but his behaviour has been reprehensible.
Like a spoilt child, with a grotesque sense of entitlement, if he loses something then it must be down to cheating or corruption. Stoking tensions in an already febrile atmosphere is very irresponsible. There are a lot of heavily armed stupid people out there.
And to cast doubt on the entire democratic system of voting, in the bastion of democracy he is supposed to be protecting is outrageous.
Trumps presidency actually accomplished some good things during his tenure, but his character and behaviour have not been great in my humble opinion.
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Originally Posted by X
Spot on, X! (I kept looking for the punchline, 'cause I'm not used to you putting up solely serious posts... ;D but very well said).
Thing is... Trump had sewn the seeds of doubt months ago. This has been part of a process.
1. Completely divide.
2. Stoke the hate.
3. Predict foul play ahead of the elections (thus, rigging it so that is he wins he wins... if he "loses" it was cheating).
4. Stack the deck in his favor.
5. Try to cash in his chips come election time.
The guy after all... is a seasoned wheeling, dealing clown.
Things will work out...oh there will be disquiet, there already has been (to prime the pump) see Seattle, Portland, etc...but in the end everything will work out.
People don't like what Trump is doing, I get it, I understand. I also understand why Trump is doing it.
Let's be rational about all this shall we? Let's look at some election results and maybe we'll come to some conclusions.
GOP lost ZERO House Races
GOP picks up House seats
GOP holds Majority in Senate
GOP holds every state legislature they were defending
GOP flips state legislature in NH
Dems spend HUNDRED OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS to win Senate seats and flip state legislature and in the biggest examples of Democrat failure: Mitch McConnell SKATES past Amy McGrath, Lindsey Graham defeats Jaime Harrison, Thom Tillis beat Cal Cunningham, and Democrat incumbent Donna Shalala was upset by Republican newcomer Maria Salazar.
Not only that, Donald Trump who holds a historic approval rating within the Republican Party (even better than Reagan) picked up historic gains in Latino, Black, LGBT, and Women votes.
But all that doesn't matter, all of that is wiped out, because Joe Biden....Joe 'Been in office nearly half a century but NOW I'm going to change things' Biden got more votes than anyone else in history, more votes than Obama in 2008?
Joe Biden got that? Kamala Harris who polled UNDER 1% in the primaries got that? And if we're to believe "Well it's people who support Biden, but it's also people who HATE Trump"...they're THAT motivated? I mean Trump's approval rating in general is the magic 46% number....but nah, yeah, nah people were SUPER motivated to vote and apparently ONLY vote Biden as President because the Republicans won everything else?
I'm going to need to stretch before I'm able to suspend my disbelief on THAT friends...and after 3 years of a Russia collusion hoax and not accepting defeat in 2016, you think the Dems just were like "Oh well, let's beat him fair & square in 2020 with Joe Biden"? Hillary wasn't a great candidate, but she was a hell of a lot better and had more enthusiasm behind her than Biden.
Just some things to think about
Donald Trump was out there doing five rallies a day getting massive crowds. Joe Biden didn't do anything to campaign, he did absolutely nothing, didn't go out and do anything, literally didn't get more than 150 attendees once in awhile, in a parking lot with some pumpkins lined up around Halloween.
It is absolutely impossible for me to believe that Joe Biden got more votes than Donald Trump.
Even worse, it's even more impossible for me to believe that anybody in their right mind would vote for Joe Biden. He clearly has severe neurological damage, some people said he had two strokes a couple years ago, I don't know if that is true or not, but there is something neurologically really wrong with him, any person --- even a person who has zero knowledge of medicine or health issues --- can clearly see there is something wrong with Joe Biden.
It's impossible for me to believe that anybody would vote for Joe Biden to be president of the United States until January 2025.
Hundreds of millions of mail in ballots sent out, many of them unsolicited, what could possibly go wrong?
I don't know what's going to happen here, and a few hours ago Joe Biden magically inched up by a few hundred votes over Trump in Pennsylvania and Georgia..... 🙄
It's just too difficult to believe that somebody could win an election AT A SNAIL'S PACE, A SLOW MOTION, CREEPING, INCH BY INCH, RIDICULOUS LOOKING PROCESS.
The person who walks around like a cadaver, who did absolutely almost no campaigning at all, who can't even speak two sentences without having neurological seizures, and whose vice presidential pick Kamala Harris has absolutely zero experience and a really horrible personality.....
Where was the Blue Wave? Is this it now?
Death by a thousand invisible cuts?
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Originally Posted by El Kabong
This is the way I look at it. This vote wasn't against the Republicans in general. It was against Donald Trump. There are countless thousands of Republicans, including in Congress, who quietly wish Trump would go away. We hear the flop-floppers, like that waste of oxygen Lindsey Graham. But there are many decent Republicans who just want the best for the nation... and who are frankly embarrassed by how Trump has carried himself for the last four years.
I'm no Democrat. I'd say in going down the list of issues I'm probably 50/50, or maybe even 60/40. Doesn't matter. What that affords me is the objectivity to be able to trash Trump without condemning a whole political party.
And here's the thing.....
If Trump is to lose, he's perfectly happy leaving behind a giant, smoldering, dangerous mess.
Republicans have talked ad nauseum about how the Dems would create civil war if Trump won.
Yet it is they... stoked to feverish, insane, angry proportions by their leader... who seem ready to wage war if Biden is declared the winner.
This is about to get U-G-L-Y.
I've given my views about why I think this is a very dishonest deal and it's just part of all of the attacks that they have made on Trump since 2015....
But now I will play devil's advocate because I thought of a few things in the past few minutes that really need to be said....
If Donald Trump was so paranoid about mailing ballots all the way back in July and August, and he thought that that was the way the Democrats would try to quote" steal the election", THEN WHY THE F*** DIDN'T HE TELL HIS OWN SUPPORTERS TO USE MAIL AND BALLOTS AS WELL? I mean if he claims that hundreds of millions of ballots were sent out, they were sent out to everybody in the country not just a Democrats. If you know four months before the election that this is going to be a problem for you, then why not tell your own supporters to use those same mail in ballots?
Instead Trump has been trying to look strong and unafraid and maskless against the coronavirus and he told all of his supporters to go out and be strong and vote in person. This is typical of a narcissistic leader who has a blind spot and who cares more about how he looks compared to his opponents rather than what he might use to win.
Here's a guy who claims to be the best strategist in the world and he failed to understand that if he encourages his own supporters to use the mail in ballots, that maybe that would give him a better chance of winning!
The icing on that cake is that if he had told the country to wear a mask all the way back in March--- WHEN THE WHOLE WORLD ALREADY KNEW HOW DEADLY IT WAS BASED ON WHAT HAD HAPPENED IN CHINA--- then there wouldn't be so many cases and deaths in the United States and maybe they would not have had to mail out all those hundreds of millions of mail in ballots because of fear of exposure to coronavirus on election day.
That's one way to look at it, but the problem is a lot of those Republicans were endorsed by and they themselves endorsed not only Trump but the MAGA/KAG mentality so I've got questions about that line of thought. Also his in party approval numbers were QUITE high. Republicans eager to be elected don't run away from THAT nor do they secretly vote against it. Republicans against Trump are welcomed with open arms by the media & Democrats, so what incentive would there be to fake it?Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
I want what's best for the nation I voted Trump, why? Well to believe that Biden is best means that we have to believe the following
1973 Joe Biden becomes a Senator
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2020 Now Biden's ready to fix all of America's problems!
If that works for you then oh well....All I'm saying is get comfy this election is going to be a while.
Donald Trump can remain in power if he declares martial law or if a world war breaks out. I don't think there will be any transition of administrations doing a world war. I might as well add in a civil war while I'm at it.
These could be either real or staged.
But something is going to happen.
I sort of agree with Lyle about Biden. He comes across as an ancient mediocrity. Kamala Harris, I haven't got a clue about, which is bit silly of me as I suspect she will be the president at some point.
Are these really the best people that a country like the US can come up with?
I really don't know enough about American politics to have a properly thought out or intelligent view about the Republican or Democratic Party to be honest. Our media doesn't really cover their policies in depth - just as the US media doesn't cover our parties properly.
So for most Europeans, it just becomes a matter of perceived personality with recent Presidents. Trump is nearly a perfect example of everything Europeans dislike about so-called 'ugly Americans'. Of course, there is no such thing as that caricature, but it deeply resonates with many people in Europe. Europeans are no less generally stupid than Americans!
Take Obama for example. Pretty admired across Europe because he spoke well, had charisma and made history by being half black. The truth is he was no friend of Europe, especially the U.K., his foreign policy was muddled and unhelpful and he didn't actually accomplish that much as President.
Never let facts get in the way of a good narrative though.
We see caricatures of fat, uneducated racist people, mainly driven by fear and ignorance, voting Trump .... then we see hordes of woke identity warriors, utterly aggressive and unaccepting of any viewpoint than their own voting Biden. So binary, so simplistic. Almost certainly wrong.
Biden has possibly won this election just by Not Being Donald Trump.
Why can't people calmly accept that other people have different views, beliefs and wishes? Why the division, fury and grudges? Madness :confused:
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Originally Posted by X
I think you not only agree with Lyle about Biden. Frankly, you agree with most on here. Nowhere is there a single post I can remember from anybody claiming Biden is the best thing since sliced bread.
As to your question as far as is this the best a country like the U.S. can come up with... well... been there done that too.
I've been shouting from the rooftops that the Democrats had 3 and a half years to come up with a viable candidate to challenge Trump and lead the nation forward... and all they've done is cry in their soup the whole time and finally trot out Biden.
are we really supposed to believe Joe Biden pulled off Miracle Comebacks in the middle of the night in WI, MI, PA, GA, NC??? When Trump was leading by 790,000 votes in PA at the end of Election Day, for example? How does someone win 765,000 out of 790,000 votes???
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Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell
I don't know I suppose we'll have to wait for 6 months and 250 lawsuits and court battles to find out.
Mail in counted last maybe. That’s why Trump was pushing the fraud fraud narrative as majority go to Biden. There are some seriously batshit nutty We wuz robbed plots going on and more to follow. Giuliani trotted out a poor ol gal who said she wasn’t allowed to vote then it turns out she already had O_o. Guess they’re taking Trumps directive to commit voting fraud by voting twice literally. And what’s with all the pop up prayer mantras. I’ve heard of keeping a President in your prayers during war or 9-11 etc but invoking God to intervene on behalf of any politician really strikes me a bit misplaced.
Under the radar but you know who really won 2020? Drugs and the ganja. I read they ‘legalized’ meth ffs ???. Now that’s just nuts.
Any state that gets recounted goes to Trump
Wisconsin has now been ordered to do a recount
Georgia has now been ordered to do a recount
Pennsylvania definitely needs to be ordered to do a recount.
I voted for Jo Jorgensen, but this is a hijack
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Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell
I don't know I suppose we'll have to wait for 6 months and 250 lawsuits and court battles to find out.
Banana republic.
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how do you figure it goes to Trump. Based on just not liking the result? Do you know the percentage threshold to merit a recount. Honestly all I’m seeing flood social media and Trump outlets are tons of accusations with little substance. Sharpi-Gate part 2 ffs? What they’re doing in Pa is trying to relitigate previously decided issues with the extension in the court of public opinion. This was what the minions were going to do all along, cry foul and run to SCOTUS. Iran, China and Putin must really be enjoying watching us cannibalize and refute our own Democracy.Quote:
Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell
Baaa.... 🐑Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicolihow do you figure it goes to Trump. Based on just not liking the result? Do you know the percentage threshold to merit a recount. Honestly all I’m seeing flood social media and Trump outlets are tons of accusations with little substance. Sharpi-Gate part 2 ffs? What they’re doing in Pa is trying to relitigate previously decided issues with the extension in the court of public opinion. This was what the minions were going to do all along, cry foul and run to SCOTUS. Iran, China and Putin must really be enjoying watching us cannibalize and refute our own Democracy.Quote:
Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell
Brock is right. If this is followed through thoroughly, then the possibility is that Trump may well still be President. The irregularities are all too apparent. Recount everything and question every ballot cast. People only want the truth and if Biden genuinely won then fine. However, there are question marks. Notice how every 'glitch' goes the way of the Democrats? I blame Russia. 🙄
I voted for Jo Jorgensen.... So it's not because I don't like the result. It's because in the middle of the night in Wisconsin and Michigan in Pennsylvania there have been numerous eyewitness accounts there are even some videos of it on YouTube which I have seen, of cartons and cartons of ballots coming in like 3:45 in the morning or 4:45 in the morning after all the counting had stopped, and suddenly there were 265, 000 votes for Biden only in one chunk for example, or suddenly 126,000 votes all for Joe Biden for example from one neighborhood of one county in Pennsylvania.
Everybody knows that Philadelphia and Detroit are purely Democratic run cities for the past 125 years, about as crooked as Newark New Jersey where I lived for several years, and votes are being illegally "cured", meaning they are being completed or filled in or corrected if they have been filled out improperly, and these are illegal votes. These votes have been tampered with by democrats in heavily Democrats strongholds and then suddenly overnight Biden is ahead after being behind by 790,000 votes a few hours earlier in Pennsylvania. On a smaller scale due to a smaller population the same exact thing happened in Wisconsin and Michigan the same exact night. So many eyewitness accounts of ballots going through shenanigans, nobody knows who filled out the ballots, where they were sent in from because the envelopes are discarded after they are opened, no signature verification at all, and no residency requirements being met for thousands and thousands of voters... in Nevada for example 3,605 voters turned out to be homeless shelter inhabitants in Los Angeles county, who filled out the ballots and sent them back to Las Vegas. They have hundreds and hundreds of examples of things like this. And this is going to be a very long and painful process. But the Democrats are not allowed to hijack the election with these kinds of shenanigans. Literally hundreds of millions of mail in ballots were sent out.... What could possibly go wrong?
Hope you had a chance to cast your vote yeh. Hey I scrutinize equally I just don’t foster bs and thus far disproven boogeymen for 4 years now and try to hatch that egg when the votes don’t go my way.Quote:
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Originally Posted by Spicolihow do you figure it goes to Trump. Based on just not liking the result? Do you know the percentage threshold to merit a recount. Honestly all I’m seeing flood social media and Trump outlets are tons of accusations with little substance. Sharpi-Gate part 2 ffs? What they’re doing in Pa is trying to relitigate previously decided issues with the extension in the court of public opinion. This was what the minions were going to do all along, cry foul and run to SCOTUS. Iran, China and Putin must really be enjoying watching us cannibalize and refute our own Democracy.Quote:
Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell
Saw it on ‘YouTube’ did ya :thumb:. Hey a dead Republican..a dead one.. was elected to office in South Dakota yesterday so I know all about possible glitches and snafus.Quote:
Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell
You do not scrutinize equally. Your lack of ability to do that is obvious and proven by your post history. There are dozens of examples of irregularities and all you have is a woman who already voted? I suspect your range of sources is very narrow.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliHope you had a chance to cast your vote yeh. Hey I scrutinize equally I just don’t foster bs and thus far disproven boogeymen for 4 years now and try to hatch that egg when the votes don’t go my way.Quote:
Originally Posted by GandmilesBaaa.... 🐑Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicolihow do you figure it goes to Trump. Based on just not liking the result? Do you know the percentage threshold to merit a recount. Honestly all I’m seeing flood social media and Trump outlets are tons of accusations with little substance. Sharpi-Gate part 2 ffs? What they’re doing in Pa is trying to relitigate previously decided issues with the extension in the court of public opinion. This was what the minions were going to do all along, cry foul and run to SCOTUS. Iran, China and Putin must really be enjoying watching us cannibalize and refute our own Democracy.Quote:
Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell
Thats rich coming from a man who can’t vote in the election let alone live in the Country but wants to tell me about our Democracy. Similarly like a guy who bans himself and doesn’t post but wants to tell me about how I post too. Glad to be back are we Miles. Any example you care to dredge up will be investigated and this process will continue on, votes will be counted and Democracy will continue. We don’t use steal, call our political rivals criminals and declare fraudulent voting across the board loosely. That is not our norm. Not from Presidents nor elected lawmakers nor an alias on a forum.Quote:
Originally Posted by GandmilesYou do not scrutinize equally. Your lack of ability to do that is obvious and proven by your post history. There are dozens of examples of irregularities and all you have is a woman who already voted? I suspect your range of sources is very narrow.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliHope you had a chance to cast your vote yeh. Hey I scrutinize equally I just don’t foster bs and thus far disproven boogeymen for 4 years now and try to hatch that egg when the votes don’t go my way.Quote:
Originally Posted by GandmilesBaaa.... 🐑Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicolihow do you figure it goes to Trump. Based on just not liking the result? Do you know the percentage threshold to merit a recount. Honestly all I’m seeing flood social media and Trump outlets are tons of accusations with little substance. Sharpi-Gate part 2 ffs? What they’re doing in Pa is trying to relitigate previously decided issues with the extension in the court of public opinion. This was what the minions were going to do all along, cry foul and run to SCOTUS. Iran, China and Putin must really be enjoying watching us cannibalize and refute our own Democracy.Quote:
Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell
This is democrat politics as usual. For over a century the democrat "machine" in large urban areas has been famous for getting out the vote, be it by using buses to move voters from one polling place to another to vote multiple times, to rigging the counts to ballot box stuffing, to hiring 'muscle' to intimidate rivals. This has traditionally been treated with a nudge and a wink, "back room, bare knuckle politics" they call it.
And it is historically verifiable; read up on Tamany Hall, Chicago, Baltimore, Detroit, Cleveland, even Butte, Montana. Read about the 1960 Presidential election and the blatant, open corruption that took place in West Virginia and the recount in Illinois that turned up 30 thousand new Kennedy votes. Richie Giachetti talked about being hired, he and other fighters, to use violence against democrat opponents. It is historically verifiable. ( and before you say some stupid, dismissive bullshit like "both sides do it" provide an example, show me the Republican version of Chicago)
You have to be fucking dense to not see that something is wrong. In these states, the number of votes for Trump and the republican Senate candidate are very close yet there are very substantial differences between the votes for Biden and the democrat Senate candidate. So people were voting for Biden and skipping the Senate race? Sure. In any other country this would be held up for the train wreck it is. The media calling Michigan for Biden while the Michigan government website has Trump up by 6%? A 16% swing in Pennsylvania?
If you don't think that a situation like that needs looking into you should renounce your citizenship.
This is just a straight power grab from a bunch of motherfuckers that march behind hammer and sickle banners.
Without having voted for Trump I will say that this is cultural Marxism and a china-based revolution
Hey guys... all is not lost. Why there's already threats of mass shootings and other violence bubbling up to the surface, and only sure to increase as time goes on.
Funny... I remember reading here (and other places) where it was the DEMOCRATS that would riot, loot, and pillage if Trump won.
The elections aren't even over yet... and Biden gaining leads has prompted all sorts of craziness.
You guys want a side of fries with that serving of double standard? ;)
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Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell
I'm getting whiplash trying to follow your preferences on here. Trump fan... Trump hater... Trump fan.
I've seen less lead changes at Federer-Nadal matches.
As of this point in time all the violence has been the usual suspects. That happened Tuesday night. Can you point to any actual violence or mayhem committed by Trump supporters?Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
The whole thing has been a psyop against Trump since 2015. Adam Schiff, Bib Mueller, etc...Their problem was that nothing stuck. No collusion. Etc. The Russian nonsense didn't stick and then they went with the Ukraine nonsense and that didn't stick either. He was attacked mercilessly for the past 4 years. Completely unwarranted and fabricated to try to get him out of there. Now they're trying this charade.
I voted for Jo Jorgensen. But this is about the process and the legality and Democrat corruption which no matter who I voted for I don't want to see in this country.Quote:
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Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell
I'm getting whiplash trying to follow your preferences on here. Trump fan... Trump hater... Trump fan.
I've seen less lead changes at Federer-Nadal matches.
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Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBellI voted for Jo Jorgensen. But this is about the process and the legality and Democrat corruption which no matter who I voted for I don't want to see in this country.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell
I'm getting whiplash trying to follow your preferences on here. Trump fan... Trump hater... Trump fan.
I've seen less lead changes at Federer-Nadal matches.
And the process has been illegal and corrupt according to whom? There's lots of talk about lawsuits. What proof has been presented? Specifics. Let's talk specifics. Enough of the vague, incendiary rhetoric Trump throws out there like so much red meat for his hounds to devour. Let's talk sound, solid facts.
Trump has been yelling "foul" for months leading up to the election. Maybe like Pavlov's dogs... his fans have finally become conditioned.
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Originally Posted by greynotsooldAs of this point in time all the violence has been the usual suspects. That happened Tuesday night. Can you point to any actual violence or mayhem committed by Trump supporters?Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
"Usual suspects". What does that mean? I've seen videos of Trump fans beating up on Biden fans, just like I'm sure you can find and post the opposite.
The election has not been called yet.
Once that happens, buckle your seatbelt.
I saw the Apollo 11 launch on Youtube, it was real. I saw the debates on YOUtube, they were real. I saw the Usyk fight on YOutube, it was real. So yeah, I saw it on YOutube, and...........???:-\:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliSaw it on ‘YouTube’ did ya :thumb:. Hey a dead Republican..a dead one.. was elected to office in South Dakota yesterday so I know all about possible glitches and snafus.Quote:
Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell
Neither you nor I have seen anyting in person, it all must come from eyewitness accounts and videos they took, right? I have never met Trump in person, so if someone asked me to prove specifically that he exists, I sadly couldn't. Asking for proof is a tough one, it can even get as frustrating as arguing for proof, as we have done ad nauseum on another thread, about if the Earth is flat or whatever shape. NONE of us have drifted up into the ionosphere, then the troposphere, then the stratosphere to personally film anything and then even if we DID and we put it on YOuutbe, others would be saying "so you saw it on Youtube, did ya?"Quote:
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Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBellI voted for Jo Jorgensen. But this is about the process and the legality and Democrat corruption which no matter who I voted for I don't want to see in this country.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell
I'm getting whiplash trying to follow your preferences on here. Trump fan... Trump hater... Trump fan.
I've seen less lead changes at Federer-Nadal matches.
And the process has been illegal and corrupt according to whom? There's lots of talk about lawsuits. What proof has been presented? Specifics. Let's talk specifics. Enough of the vague, incendiary rhetoric Trump throws out there like so much red meat for his hounds to devour. Let's talk sound, solid facts.
Trump has been yelling "foul" for months leading up to the election. Maybe like Pavlov's dogs... his fans have finally become conditioned.
Well where else is anyone gonna see it, if they dont see it in person, as it happens live? The proof you are asking for I guess will be determined in a court of law.
So I suppose like in any legal case, at this stage, they are claims/torts/allegations/accusations. So no proof in the legal sense can be provided at this juncture.
;)
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Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBellNeither you nor I have seen anyting in person, it all must come from eyewitness accounts and videos they took, right? I have never met Trump in person, so if someone asked me to prove specifically that he exists, I sadly couldn't. Asking for proof is a tough one, it can even get as frustrating as arguing for proof, as we have done ad nauseum on another thread, about if the Earth is flat or whatever shape. NONE of us have drifted up into the ionosphere, then the troposphere, then the stratosphere to personally film anything and then even if we DID and we put it on YOuutbe, others would be saying "so you saw it on Youtube, did ya?"Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBellI voted for Jo Jorgensen. But this is about the process and the legality and Democrat corruption which no matter who I voted for I don't want to see in this country.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell
I'm getting whiplash trying to follow your preferences on here. Trump fan... Trump hater... Trump fan.
I've seen less lead changes at Federer-Nadal matches.
And the process has been illegal and corrupt according to whom? There's lots of talk about lawsuits. What proof has been presented? Specifics. Let's talk specifics. Enough of the vague, incendiary rhetoric Trump throws out there like so much red meat for his hounds to devour. Let's talk sound, solid facts.
Trump has been yelling "foul" for months leading up to the election. Maybe like Pavlov's dogs... his fans have finally become conditioned.
Well where else is anyone gonna see it, if they dont see it in person, as it happens live? The proof you are asking for I guess will be determined in a court of law.
So I suppose like in any legal case, at this stage, they are claims/torts/allegations/accusations. So no proof in the legal sense can be provided at this juncture.
;)
Well.... THIS guy did.
https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/...58/232/831.jpg
But he never came back. ;D
Earths flat dude. Anyone with commonsense and objectivity knows that, come on man. A glass of water told me that once. Pfft.Quote:
Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBellI saw the Apollo 11 launch on Youtube, it was real. I saw the debates on YOUtube, they were real. I saw the Usyk fight on YOutube, it was real. So yeah, I saw it on YOutube, and...........???:-\:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliSaw it on ‘YouTube’ did ya :thumb:. Hey a dead Republican..a dead one.. was elected to office in South Dakota yesterday so I know all about possible glitches and snafus.Quote:
Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell
But really though where do you get that curing a vote is illegal? Every single State is different with election protocols and procedures and a State determines such. And so goes County to County. Some require same day fix and some do not. To my knowledge you have around 18-20 States that have curing. It's not something willy nilly where just anyone can fix it, many require a signed affidavit and dictate how the individual voter can 'fix' a problem. It's actually if anything a tool in place..best that I can tell..that requires the voter to provide accurate-required information for their vote to be counted. Each gives a certain amount of time and contacts them in different ways but they require you to fix your screw up and it's also making sure every voters get the opportunity per their right to count. Again, these are the exception rather than the norm.