Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds! Hatton vs Castillo!!!
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Originally Posted by Fire
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by ACEA
WTF Castillo was gone straight away, i mean come on in all honesty he could have got back up but he just didnt want to. He was looking for a way out of the fight and that body shot was the perfect chance. Props to Hatton for the win but im still not buying that he's the next big thing. He called Mayweather for being a boring fighter but what Mayweather does it a skill that only a select few fighters can do to such a high standard any fool thats got a bit of strength can hit and hold. Ricky Hatton its time to step up and fight someone that really counts only then will we know how good he is
Either youv'e never been punched in the liver...or youv'e never been punched in the liver.
Hatton is one of the most devastating body punchers in the game today @ 140lbs & Castillo took about 4 of those before he buckled....again...I aint a Hatton fan...but he did step up against Castillo & just 3-4 fights ago everyone was on the man's jock.
If Corrales ruined him in their first fight like many say...there was enough of Castillo left to knock Corrales the fwock out in their next fight & ugly or not...Castillo won his following bouts up until getting stopped tonight.
As I said...Castillo was on the slide...but not the dead fish you all are saying he is.
It's wrong to dismiss him that way because it discredits Hatton.
What's funny is that there's more stink here than there is when Hatton stopped Maussa.
Re-gotdam-dick-ulous...but...this is boxing & if we all agreed...well what fun would that be?
It looks like you are believing a little of the hype on hatton now huh ;D ...
thanks for giving your honest opinion and for not hating on hatton for a quick stoppage... i know you was saying castillo was on the slide so that could have been your out, but i think your post fight analysis was dead on as always... you give credit where credit is due...
great rbr as always THE GREATEST RBR COMMENTATOR/POSTER IN NORTH AMERICA AND EUROPE :WACKO
While I am not a fan of Hatton or his style...I'm thrilled for him & his fans & he gave a lot to boxing this weekend...just as Cotto did...just as Castillo did...just as Judah did. I think that people forget the fact that it takes two champs to make such amazing fights & Castillo gave all that he had...it just wasn't enough.
I've always said that Hatton was effective & that he was good at what he does...I just aint a fan of that bull & brawl & clench style of his...but it worked & n o matter what them tools @ HBO say...that was a good fight & Castillo didn't have a gotdam cane in the ring with him. ;D :coolclick:
Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds! Hatton vs Castillo!!!
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Originally Posted by NuthaPug
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Originally Posted by Fire
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Originally Posted by Dorfmeister
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Originally Posted by NuthaPug
So which was it ... a KO or a TKO? Sounds more like a KO ... wasn't he down for the count?
Absolutely, You are right, he was counted out or in another words, JLC said "No Mas" in gestural language... I think he got the payday and was in there to see how did it feel to trade with Ricky so that he could fight back as Ricky would tire, he fought back hard for a very short time and got depleted in the 1st quarter of the fight... What I meant was that I knew he would try to sustain it and sap Ricky's energy holding, hitting low and at the clinch and try to come back later but at that time, JLC would feel depleted, the cumulative effect of Ricky's blows or whatever - It was as much of the blow itself as from those other factors
what???? no disrespect to you but i dont hardly understand your point or analysis of the fight... hatton just blew him out.. JLC wasnt tired...
the blow itself was a vicious left hook to the body that took castillo breath away and and locked up his mid-section..
anyone who has watched boxing years knows that left hook to the liver is one of the most debilitating blows one person can take...
that was a LOUD, THUDDING, FLUSH SHOT.
"THE PERFECT SHOT" IS WHAT CASTILLO CALLED AND HE IS THE ONE THAT FELT IT......
But neither of these posts answer the question.
Did Hatton win by KO or TKO?
This is a technical question based on fact and not subject to opinion. Well, everything is disputable and therefore subject to opinion, but I'm not asking about anyone's opinion.
Officially ... was it a TKO or a KO? Was he down for the entire count and therefore "counted out" (that would be a KO) or did he make it back up but indicate to Joe Cortez that he couldn't/didn't want to go on, and Joe waived it off, ending the fight and giving the victory to Hatton (that would be a TKO)
BTW, though I had a soft spot and hopes in my heart for Castillo, my vote in this thread was Hatton by KO ...
pure knockout!!!
cortez was trying to get hatton back so he didnt count like the first 5 counts i think but he was pretty much screaming the numbers in his face at 7, 8, and so on...
castillo didnt get of his knees for atleast a minute
Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds! Hatton vs Castillo!!!
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by Fire
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by ACEA
WTF Castillo was gone straight away, i mean come on in all honesty he could have got back up but he just didnt want to. He was looking for a way out of the fight and that body shot was the perfect chance. Props to Hatton for the win but im still not buying that he's the next big thing. He called Mayweather for being a boring fighter but what Mayweather does it a skill that only a select few fighters can do to such a high standard any fool thats got a bit of strength can hit and hold. Ricky Hatton its time to step up and fight someone that really counts only then will we know how good he is
Either youv'e never been punched in the liver...or youv'e never been punched in the liver.
Hatton is one of the most devastating body punchers in the game today @ 140lbs & Castillo took about 4 of those before he buckled....again...I aint a Hatton fan...but he did step up against Castillo & just 3-4 fights ago everyone was on the man's jock.
If Corrales ruined him in their first fight like many say...there was enough of Castillo left to knock Corrales the fwock out in their next fight & ugly or not...Castillo won his following bouts up until getting stopped tonight.
As I said...Castillo was on the slide...but not the dead fish you all are saying he is.
It's wrong to dismiss him that way because it discredits Hatton.
What's funny is that there's more stink here than there is when Hatton stopped Maussa.
Re-gotdam-dick-ulous...but...this is boxing & if we all agreed...well what fun would that be?
It looks like you are believing a little of the hype on hatton now huh ;D ...
thanks for giving your honest opinion and for not hating on hatton for a quick stoppage... i know you was saying castillo was on the slide so that could have been your out, but i think your post fight analysis was dead on as always... you give credit where credit is due...
great rbr as always THE GREATEST RBR COMMENTATOR/POSTER IN NORTH AMERICA AND EUROPE :WACKO
While I am not a fan of Hatton or his style...I'm thrilled for him & his fans & he gave a lot to boxing this weekend...just as Cotto did...just as Castillo did...just as Judah did. I think that people forget the fact that it takes two champs to make such amazing fights & Castillo gave all that he had...it just wasn't enough.
I've always said that Hatton was effective & that he was good at what he does...I just aint a fan of that bull & brawl & clench style of his...but it worked & n o matter what them tools @ HBO say...that was a good fight & Castillo didn't have a gotdam cane in the ring with him. ;D :coolclick:
thanks.... hey wacko who is your favorite 3 boxers..
not the best but your fav.. past and present???
Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds! Hatton vs Castillo!!!
Ricky Hatton did very well last night. Castillo reminded me of Rosendo Alvarez (against Jorge Arce) and Mark Johnson (against Jhonny Gonzalez). In the fact that he got old. Still Hatton deserves credit for his win. He is a better fighter when he fights, rather than hold.
Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds! Hatton vs Castillo!!!
Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds! Hatton vs Castillo!!!
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Originally Posted by Saddo
Anyone who says that Castillo was shot can suck my dick.....
get a F****** life and stop hating for F*** sake i hate this S*** sometimes >:mad
hope this helps :)
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D
Dont it just make you sick ::**
Stupid haters.
CC 1200 Saddo ;)
Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds! Hatton vs Castillo!!!
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Originally Posted by Fire
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by Fire
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by ACEA
WTF Castillo was gone straight away, i mean come on in all honesty he could have got back up but he just didnt want to. He was looking for a way out of the fight and that body shot was the perfect chance. Props to Hatton for the win but im still not buying that he's the next big thing. He called Mayweather for being a boring fighter but what Mayweather does it a skill that only a select few fighters can do to such a high standard any fool thats got a bit of strength can hit and hold. Ricky Hatton its time to step up and fight someone that really counts only then will we know how good he is
Either youv'e never been punched in the liver...or youv'e never been punched in the liver.
Hatton is one of the most devastating body punchers in the game today @ 140lbs & Castillo took about 4 of those before he buckled....again...I aint a Hatton fan...but he did step up against Castillo & just 3-4 fights ago everyone was on the man's jock.
If Corrales ruined him in their first fight like many say...there was enough of Castillo left to knock Corrales the fwock out in their next fight & ugly or not...Castillo won his following bouts up until getting stopped tonight.
As I said...Castillo was on the slide...but not the dead fish you all are saying he is.
It's wrong to dismiss him that way because it discredits Hatton.
What's funny is that there's more stink here than there is when Hatton stopped Maussa.
Re-gotdam-dick-ulous...but...this is boxing & if we all agreed...well what fun would that be?
It looks like you are believing a little of the hype on hatton now huh ;D ...
thanks for giving your honest opinion and for not hating on hatton for a quick stoppage... i know you was saying castillo was on the slide so that could have been your out, but i think your post fight analysis was dead on as always... you give credit where credit is due...
great rbr as always THE GREATEST RBR COMMENTATOR/POSTER IN NORTH AMERICA AND EUROPE :WACKO
While I am not a fan of Hatton or his style...I'm thrilled for him & his fans & he gave a lot to boxing this weekend...just as Cotto did...just as Castillo did...just as Judah did. I think that people forget the fact that it takes two champs to make such amazing fights & Castillo gave all that he had...it just wasn't enough.
I've always said that Hatton was effective & that he was good at what he does...I just aint a fan of that bull & brawl & clench style of his...but it worked & n o matter what them tools @ HBO say...that was a good fight & Castillo didn't have a gotdam cane in the ring with him. ;D :coolclick:
thanks.... hey wacko who is your favorite 3 boxers..
not the best but your fav.. past and present???
Bernard Hopkins is my favorite of all time...
Followed by Floyd Mayweather jr., Miguel Cotto, Marvin Hagler, & Winky Wright...
Followed by Felix Sturm, Oscar...followed by...you said 3 right? ;D
It's impossible for me to list just 3.
Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds! Hatton vs Castillo!!!
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Originally Posted by Fire
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Originally Posted by Dorfmeister
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Originally Posted by NuthaPug
So which was it ... a KO or a TKO? Sounds more like a KO ... wasn't he down for the count?
Absolutely, You are right, he was counted out or in another words, JLC said "No Mas" in gestural language... I think he got the payday and was in there to see how did it feel to trade with Ricky so that he could fight back as Ricky would tire, he fought back hard for a very short time and got depleted in the 1st quarter of the fight... What I meant was that I knew he would try to sustain it and sap Ricky's energy holding, hitting low and at the clinch and try to come back later but at that time, JLC would feel depleted, the cumulative effect of Ricky's blows or whatever - It was as much of the blow itself as from those other factors
what???? no disrespect to you but i dont hardly understand your point or analysis of the fight... hatton just blew him out.. JLC wasnt tired...
the blow itself was a vicious left hook to the body that took castillo breath away and and locked up his mid-section..
anyone who has watched boxing years knows that left hook to the liver is one of the most debilitating blows one person can take...
that was a LOUD, THUDDING, FLUSH SHOT.
"THE PERFECT SHOT" IS WHAT CASTILLO CALLED AND HE IS THE ONE THAT FELT IT......
No disrespect to you too or to any Hatton supporter but... What the hell happened really? JLC quit and I am glad that he did so for his sake... Listen, I am a former fighter and nowhere in the world you get hurt by a left hook to the so-called soft spot or to the liver, take a knee and breathe like that... In gestural language, Castillo said "No Mas" like Duran did against Leonard, regardless of the TKO or KO decision, because he wouldn't keep up the pace with the much younger, stronger, energetic Hatton as soon as he would lose all his energy fighting back, he fought back for a round or so and gave up, had nothing left... For me, it is a body shot KO as much as B-Hop vs ODLH was in 2004 and I am not sayin it was "fixed", sorry guys!
Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds! Hatton vs Castillo!!!
Your a former fighter Dorfmeister? What weight class/ area u box at?
I startin my pro journey next year n gettin all the little hints n tips i can get :)
Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds! Hatton vs Castillo!!!
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Originally Posted by Saddo
Anyone who says that Castillo was shot can suck my dick.....
get a F****** life and stop hating for F*** sake i hate this S*** sometimes >:mad
hope this helps :)
Haha! well said boss ;D :army:
Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds! Hatton vs Castillo!!!
"CASTILLO WAS SHOT" :biker: :lickish:
PM me Guv ;)
Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds! Hatton vs Castillo!!!
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
Ricky Hatton did very well last night. Castillo reminded me of Rosendo Alvarez (against Jorge Arce) and Mark Johnson (against Jhonny Gonzalez). In the fact that he got old. Still Hatton deserves credit for his win. He is a better fighter when he fights, rather than hold.
CC VD. I read all your predictions and pre fight comments and it takes a big man to come back when he is proved wrong. I'm being serious by the way. Well done
Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds! Hatton vs Castillo!!!
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Your a former fighter Dorfmeister? What weight class/ area u box at?
I startin my pro journey next year n gettin all the little hints n tips i can get :)
The name is Francisco Lobo, fought as a super-welterweight and a middleweight in Portugal from 1990 to 1996, record 7-1-1, had to quit due to a very bad eye injury and to finish my engineering course in Lisbon, Portugal. Now I am 35 years old and 168 lbs, still train and spar, write me to nambu82003@yahoo.com.br... Now on the Hatton Castillo, never, never a guy badly hurt in the rib cage has the time to turn away, walk a couple of meters and take a knee with the coolest of looks, even if you are experienced that never happens, JLC just wanted to say enough of that...
Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds! Hatton vs Castillo!!!
I was shocked that Castillo went down from a body shot and did not get up. It was a great shot right behind the elbow, but you know that Castillo has taken his share of those before and toughed it out. From the first round Castillo did not look good, his punches were pretty slow and lacked pop. He did look better in the 3rd and 4th, but then he got caught with that body shot and that was it. I didn't think Castillo was shot going into the fight and British Troll deserves some definite credit for beating the hall of famer, but now I would say Castillo is either shot or damn close. I don't see Castillo beating any of the elite fighters out there right now, less he was just totally weight drained or something in that fight.
Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds! Hatton vs Castillo!!!
Hulk, Castillo barely passed by Ngoudjo and he had just 15 pro fights, I still say there's no weight class issue here - JLC was more than 135 lbs for his 2nd fight with Chico and we know Chico was falling all ova the place ever since the 2005 match up until the Clottey fight. He just grew old too fast and that happens because he passed his 30s and had stressy personal issues lately, I still believe Castillo can beat Malignaggi, NDou, Witter and M'Baye, why wouldn't he?