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In Mayweather's own words, the "blue print" on how to beat Marquez was already there when Marquez lost to Chris John. Pacquiao is a different style fighter. Hatton was able to get to Mayweather and Pacquiao carries his punch power with him and the weight. Marquez is more of an arm puncher and his punch just couldn't hurt Mayweather at the weight.
Mayweather gets credit for the impressive win but he's going to pay at the bargaining table if Pacquiao comes out the winner against Cotto.
Bernard Hopkins is a fukking asshole.
He could earn more respect by fighting people in his own weight class who are in their prime. It would also help if he would make the weight originally stipulated in the contract and stop talking complete and utter rubbish.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFH
Mayweather would wreck Mosley and people would bitch about how he only fights old guys. He would beat Pac and people will bitch about how he only fights smaller guys. He would beat Cotto and people would talk about how Margarito ruined Cotto. The guy really can't win in the court of public opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
Mayweather would have earned a LOT more respect by fighting Mosley or Cotto. I don't think anyone would question a Pacman fight if Pac does an impressive number on Cotto either. But instead he picked on a valiant but way undersized LW. :-\
If Pacquiao beats Cotto, Mayweather will gain more respect for beating him than Mosely.Quote:
Originally Posted by milesHe could earn more respect by fighting people in his own weight class who are in their prime. It would also help if he would make the weight originally stipulated in the contract and stop talking complete and utter rubbish.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFHMayweather would wreck Mosley and people would bitch about how he only fights old guys. He would beat Pac and people will bitch about how he only fights smaller guys. He would beat Cotto and people would talk about how Margarito ruined Cotto. The guy really can't win in the court of public opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
Mayweather would have earned a LOT more respect by fighting Mosley or Cotto. I don't think anyone would question a Pacman fight if Pac does an impressive number on Cotto either. But instead he picked on a valiant but way undersized LW. :-\
PBF Jr. outclassed an outclassed opponent in JMM. Now what is there to crow about?
Floyd haters please just stop with the PAC stuff . Like I said it wasn't a fair fight from the beginning and weight, the pres being black, drinking pee or eating poop is going to give anyone except maybe Paul Williams a chance in hell at beating this guy. I also find it funny that kelleman and people like him cried and bitched about kanye then allow shane to do pretty much the same thing. Ah well max is a nutsack anyway.
Honestly I'd like to see both fights. I think Pac has enough speed to make it interesting and enough power to keep it honest, but Mayweather is a perfect storm. Too much power for the smaller guys, too much speed for the bigger guys, and too much skill for just about anyone.
It'll take a perfect storm to beat him - as much as I'd love to see it, I don't know if it will ever happen. The man is just that good. I'd still like to see him keep fighting - there are a lot of excellent fights out there.
I'm with you all the way there... I'll give him this one though as his comeback fight, but he can't go for a smaller guy again...Quote:
Originally Posted by milesHe could earn more respect by fighting people in his own weight class who are in their prime. It would also help if he would make the weight originally stipulated in the contract and stop talking complete and utter rubbish.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFHMayweather would wreck Mosley and people would bitch about how he only fights old guys. He would beat Pac and people will bitch about how he only fights smaller guys. He would beat Cotto and people would talk about how Margarito ruined Cotto. The guy really can't win in the court of public opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
Mayweather would have earned a LOT more respect by fighting Mosley or Cotto. I don't think anyone would question a Pacman fight if Pac does an impressive number on Cotto either. But instead he picked on a valiant but way undersized LW. :-\
My annoyance on the subject comes most from the fact I know Mayweather can do just as good against better guys, and although there will always be people finding fault with his opponents and make excuses for why he shouldn't get unconditional props for his wins, but he's clearly got an A grade proven selection of fighters that MOST people will respect him for taking.. And if he despatches of them convingly then there will be excuse makers, but common sense people will give him the respect....
How many threads and posts does Mayweather get every time he announces a fight, because people don't think it's the quality oppoenent that he should be fighting? That's certainly not 100% because people just will always hate on Mayweather.... It's because in the past he's taken the common sense fights for him that are big paydays, biggish names, not so much risk (in the eyes of him and fans)...
I've always said he'll probably destroy cotto or shane or margarito, but regardless if he continues to overlook the fights that the fans want, then there will always be controversy...
You can never prove yourself to everyone, but you can prove you fucking tried..!
Well shite I'm on a role in picks.Went pretty much as maj thought but all asterisks,excuses aside....props to Floyd,back in the saddle and was championship fluid.Marquez a 1st ballot HOF,suberb fighter but it all caught up tonight.
I'd rather see PBF - Williams than any other fight bar Pac - PBF, but people would just say that Quintana already showed how to beat Williams etc., which IMO is total bullshit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mar
what did shane do?
There's a thread on the main board I created.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aussie_Egg
Yes, I'd love to see that too. If Williams can still make the weight that is.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFHI'd rather see PBF - Williams than any other fight bar Pac - PBF, but people would just say that Quintana already showed how to beat Williams etc., which IMO is total bullshit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mar
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Originally Posted by Dizaster
Tons of guys have tried that. The conventional, cookie cutter response to a great boxer like Floyd is to rush him and crowd him. Unfortunately, Floyd isn't the conventional, cookie cutter "boxer", rushing him leaves you open for lightning fast, lazer-accurate punches. Crowding him leaves you open for blinding infight uppercuts and counters.
Floyd is just the complete package. There is no simple gameplan to beat the guy.
Majority of the good welterweights who come 146 at weigh in could have KOed or bullied the smaller Marquez. The result was expected and those who were hoping for a Marquez win was just that ... hoping. OK Warm ups done, lets see who PBF fights next.