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MIAMI (CBSMiami) – In the midst of this pandemic, a SunSentinel investigation found that Gov. Ron DeSantis and his administration had been misleading the public about the crisis from the beginning.
According to thousands of pages of documents and over 50 interviews conducted by the Sun Sentinel, the governor and his team have done it through misinformation and spin as well as by muzzling local health officials across the state.
https://miami.cbslocal.com/2020/12/0...d-with-public/
One scientist who blew the whistle on him earlier is updating the public via her website. This happened today:
https://twitter.com/GeoRebekah/statu...65787900145665
Rebekah Jones, a vocal critic of Gov. Ron DeSantis’ handling of the pandemic, tweeted a video showing officers entering her home with guns drawn.
“They took my phone and the computer I use every day to post the case numbers in Florida, and school cases for the entire country,” she wrote. “They took evidence of corruption at the state level. They claimed it was about a security breach. This was DeSantis. He sent the gestapo.”
Texas has filed a lawsuit against Pennsylvania, Georgia, Michigan, and Wisconsin over potential voter fraud and it'll be heard by the SCOTUS and it's quite likely Senator Ted Cruz will present the case. Also, given the obsession here of "OMG they lost this case & that case and another & possibly 50!!!!! SQUEEEEEEE!!!!!" It is worth noting that Trump doesn't need to win every single court case so counting losses (whether or not he's actually personally involved in those cases) is fruitless and you're very possibly setting yourselves up for massive disappointment.
But hey, be surprised ;)
Also Rebekah Jones had the Police sent to her house because she hacked Florida's Emergency Alert System which regardless what you think of Gov. DeSantis (he's handled COVID better than Cuomo et al) that should be a big no-no...but maybe Kirkland, you disagree with that and that's fine, you are certainly free to do so.
The Supreme Court are not going to hear that bullshit case in the same way they just rejected hearing the bullshit Pennsylvania case and that girl didn't hack anything. The fascists are coming out of the woodwork in the GOP now in Florida and elsewhere.
https://twitter.com/SarahLongwell25/...12992212160513
A lot of GOP politicians in the states Trump is contesting are willing to overthrow the elections in a facist coup and pretty much every national politician is staying silent as Trump shreds the democratic system:
https://twitter.com/RonBrownstein/st...34352799817728
Over the next few years GOP voters' main demand from any official wanting to be elected or reelected is going to be whether they'd support Trump in any future election shenanigans. The whole party is stepping away from democracy and becoming an outright facist cult. Thirty percent of Americans and their elected representatives are revealing themselves to be a disgusting shower of shit.
The slide into facism continues:
https://twitter.com/JoshuaHol/status...83266122375171
You'd think the liberal media would make more of incidents like these. This is not a normal state of affairs in any democratic country.
And now Georgia which for now has just enough elected officials not to allow a fascist coup but I'm sure this will change when the miscreants come up for reelection. Not really a matter of if one party is going to be full on fascist but when. In the meantime these upstanding elected officials are rigging the democratic system another way:
https://twitter.com/JoshuaHol/status...83266122375171
https://twitter.com/RElliotWSB/statu...92637687984133
https://twitter.com/marceelias/statu...99241590288388
Wonderful.
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Awww....honey, you don't get a say in what the SCOTUS decides to hear or not.
I don't seem to recall you saying anything during the 4 year period in which Republicans and Trump supporters were harassed and violently assaulted, but you pipe up now....stunning and brave Kirkland.Quote:
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It's not a fascist thing to make certain that the votes are truly the votes fo the people. And it sure as shit ain't "racist" either. Plenty of black and hispanic people legally voted FOR Trump and illegal votes, bullshit tactics from corrupt counters and fraudulent voting machines rob those people of their vote.
Your side has sowed the wind and they will reap the whirlwind. The Democrats and Establishment could have taken 2016 on the chin....that they didn't should have been a big warning sign, but hey don't believe me. Watch what happens, it'll get wilder sweetheart ;)
Does not matter how wild it gets just as long Trump leaves that is all that matters.
So you simply do not care at all that there was fraud?Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Good to know
All that is provided is conjecture and circumstantial evidence.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongSo you simply do not care at all that there was fraud?Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Good to know
If it was true don’t you think Trump’s highly paid lawyers would have proven it by now?
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Originally Posted by MasterAll that is provided is conjecture and circumstantial evidence.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongSo you simply do not care at all that there was fraud?Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Good to know
If it was true don’t you think Trump’s highly paid lawyers would have proven it by now?
There's more than one case in play Master.
If it was true I think the media and Democrats would be acting EXACTLY as they are right now, and if it weren't true AND Donald Trump was the batshit crazy megalomaniac you've been lead to believe he is I wouldn't expect him to be so calm about things. I'd expect him to be acting a hell of a lot crazier.
But that's cool, you're 100% made up about it. Fine by me.
As are you and that is fine by me too.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterAll that is provided is conjecture and circumstantial evidence.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongSo you simply do not care at all that there was fraud?Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Good to know
If it was true don’t you think Trump’s highly paid lawyers would have proven it by now?
There's more than one case in play Master.
If it was true I think the media and Democrats would be acting EXACTLY as they are right now, and if it weren't true AND Donald Trump was the batshit crazy megalomaniac you've been lead to believe he is I wouldn't expect him to be so calm about things. I'd expect him to be acting a hell of a lot crazier.
But that's cool, you're 100% made up about it. Fine by me.
I'm at the very least willing to listen.....I looked into the Russiagate horseshit and I've looked into this. There's a lot more questionable shit in this election than there EVER was in Russiagate, but hey for whatever reason you're all team "Orange Man Bad" :dontknow: .....you do you manQuote:
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This is crazy... and the same type of "no-win" situation we've endured over the last 4 years.
Part of the country will continue to insist on the Massive Voter Fraud thing, AND quote the pertinent and supporting sources to "prove" it. Which is chuckle-worthy because NONE of us are really privy to the real scoop.
The other part of the country will continue to collectively scratch its head regarding the 1st election in U.S. history where a month after the elections we're still talking about overturned elections and the like.
My question is (and I think it's a reasonable one)....... is there a statute of limitations or whatever we want to call it where things are finally settled and whatever is decided is decided once and for all?
And the country can get back to the business of having a government govern?
Or is this too much to ask?
Is this going to be the new normal for the next four years?
If so... and I were Biden... I'd start throwing out every excuse in the book as to why the next Presidential term is going to be a total failure.
A failure due to the complete and utter fracture of the democratic system, and the beginning of an age where people do whatever the hell they want.... voting results be damned.
Why have we endured this "no-win" situation over the last 4 years?Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
Our system of government is built to handle this kind of issue and it will, it just has to play out. The media shouting "CONCEDE CONCEDE CONCEDE" to 1 person ain't helping things given their performance the past oh 12 years or so...probably longer...probably longer.
We'll see what happens, but I'd imagine yes we're looking either at a Biden term beset by accusations OR State legislatures allowing their electors to act given the information we're not privy to.
The "once and for all" question is an interesting one, the "Whatever" certainly needs to be defined and understood clearly by the public in order for any decisions to mean anything going forward.
I'm all for having "the government govern" so long as it's for the benefit of Americans and not corporations or foreign entities.
It might be too much to ask.
Oh regardless Biden will have any number of excuses and the media will carry the water for him as per usual. Not because he's a Democrat, but because he's ESTABLISHMENT, he's in on the joke and the joke is on us.
Voting results don't mean much if the people don't trust them. States handle their own elections, but there needs to be some guidelines which we follow in order to have a vote we can accept as good and free and fair. Voter ID, independent counting, access to counting by the parties involved EQUALLY, etc.
IF Biden is inaugurated he's going to inherit a whirlwind because of how he and other establishment types attempted to torpedo Trump's term in office. Biden wants "unity" he and any other politician preaching that to folks like me, they're going to have to BEG after what they've done and even then I'm more likely to spit in their faces than shake their hands and that is on THEM. THEY built that!
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Originally Posted by El KabongWhy have we endured this "no-win" situation over the last 4 years?Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
Our system of government is built to handle this kind of issue and it will, it just has to play out. The media shouting "CONCEDE CONCEDE CONCEDE" to 1 person ain't helping things given their performance the past oh 12 years or so...probably longer...probably longer.
We'll see what happens, but I'd imagine yes we're looking either at a Biden term beset by accusations OR State legislatures allowing their electors to act given the information we're not privy to.
The "once and for all" question is an interesting one, the "Whatever" certainly needs to be defined and understood clearly by the public in order for any decisions to mean anything going forward.
I'm all for having "the government govern" so long as it's for the benefit of Americans and not corporations or foreign entities.
It might be too much to ask.
Oh regardless Biden will have any number of excuses and the media will carry the water for him as per usual. Not because he's a Democrat, but because he's ESTABLISHMENT, he's in on the joke and the joke is on us.
Voting results don't mean much if the people don't trust them. States handle their own elections, but there needs to be some guidelines which we follow in order to have a vote we can accept as good and free and fair. Voter ID, independent counting, access to counting by the parties involved EQUALLY, etc.
IF Biden is inaugurated he's going to inherit a whirlwind because of how he and other establishment types attempted to torpedo Trump's term in office. Biden wants "unity" he and any other politician preaching that to folks like me, they're going to have to BEG after what they've done and even then I'm more likely to spit in their faces than shake their hands and that is on THEM. THEY built that!
That's all well and good, and obviously we're all entitled to our opinions and positions, but.......
What type of government/country can we expect when not even having stepped up to the plate, a batter has already taken strikes one... two... and three?
Hardly seems like a rosy outlook, does it.
Your last couple of sentences sadly mirror what I've heard from MANY I know. Trump is getting "illegally forced from office"..... so Biden won't catch a break whether he finds the cure for cancer, or gets nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize (wtf am I saying... that distinction became a joke a long time ago.)
"Our system of government is built to handle this kind of issue and it will, it just has to play out." Will it, though? I'm glad to see some optimism there but..... let's say it "plays out" and the chips don't happen to fall Trump's way.
Then what?
Will people finally turn the page and move on? Or will TDS be replaced by BDS?
I realize that long ago it became the "in thing" to mistrust government... mistrust the system... mistrust the media... mistrust the elections... mistrust everything short of electrical power and running water.
But my contention is that this way of thinking, especially as knee-jerk reactions and on a massive scale...... does no one any good.
How sad that you either have to be a Trump fan with everything that comes with it......... or be labeled a "sheeple" because a person couldn't POSSIBLY see evil in Trump without being part of that establishment you mention.
I've established LONG AGO that I'm a Trump hater because I've seen and heard enough (from Trump himself) to form the opinion that Trump is the worst possible type of human being to have been elected leader of the most powerful nation in the world.
I don't give a damn that he's a New Yorker and that he shoots from the hip. He's a list of negative adjectives that I won't bother repeating because I've listed them ad nauseaum on this forum and other forums.
My standards are higher than Trump.
If I want a leader that doesn't cow down to Washington politics and has only the people's interest in mind......... I want someone a HELL OF A LOT BETTER than Trump.
But back to your last couple of sentences... if much of America really feels that way..... we're in for a truly fucked up four years. I just can't see it any other way.
***CRIMINAL FEDERAL/CONSTITUTIONAL VIOLATIONS**** 11 States join The State of Texas' lawsuit against WI, MI, PA, GA.
1. egregious violations of The Elector's Clause;
2. egregious violations of The Equal Protection Law;
3. egregious violations of Due Process.
Our government can & will recover, it's done so before and will do so again. This is kinda sorta where views on mass immigration can come in and we can talk about societies of people who trust each other and such, but that's quite the rabbit hole.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
I have all the faith in the world in "balance" being restored in the American government, but that's going to start small with local and state governments.
Well there are plenty who believe that this election is/was bogus and for various reasons. Eventually those will play out in court. Biden won't catch any breaks because...and again, this is the surprising part when looking at the election results as they stand....Biden was part of of a Presidency which ran their Secretary of State in 2016, lost, ILLEGALLY spied on the POTUS & attempted to torpedo his administration from day 1. And Biden took all the media slanders against Trump and ran with them. Biden like HRC before him criticized the Trump voters (at least half the country), Biden attempted to hide his son Hunter's misdeeds while having accused Trump's family of worse. All of this while Biden attacked even Democrat voters "voter for the other guy", "I don't need your vote" etc and we're to A) Believe he got 80 MILLION plus votes and B ) He's extending the olive branch to us.....I'm unlikely to accept an olive branch from someone who just got finished stabbing me.
I understand your view of Donald Trump, my Father has the same view. It's understandable, he's been around forever it's quite easy to paint a picture of someone like that OR gloss over certain things. For example, did we hear anything about Biden dropping out of the 1988 Primary because he plagiarized speeches & lied about his university accomplishments (those things are true and damning but were omitted)? Did we hear about how Joe Biden's gaffes are due to him having a stutter that he has always been self conscious about (that's a lie but was touted especially when Joe was around kids)? Meanwhile Trump's very worst attributes were put on display 24/7 (and when the media PURPOSELY took him out of context) and then there's that good old tried & true "dog whistle" where Trump doesn't have to say anything wrong, but it's HOW he says it or his mannerisms or what he DIDN'T say so whatever he puts out to the public is spun as pure evil....the media do this and it is effective, probably not as effective as it used to be, but it's effective.
Anyway REGARDLESS of your view of Trump whether you like him or not this is a far bigger deal than just him. Pennsylvania changing when votes can be counted without running it through the legislature? Seems a bit sketchy.....but hey it'll play out in court and the good old world will keep spinning.
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Originally Posted by El KabongOur government can & will recover, it's done so before and will do so again. This is kinda sorta where views on mass immigration can come in and we can talk about societies of people who trust each other and such, but that's quite the rabbit hole.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
I have all the faith in the world in "balance" being restored in the American government, but that's going to start small with local and state governments.
Well there are plenty who believe that this election is/was bogus and for various reasons. Eventually those will play out in court. Biden won't catch any breaks because...and again, this is the surprising part when looking at the election results as they stand....Biden was part of of a Presidency which ran their Secretary of State in 2016, lost, ILLEGALLY spied on the POTUS & attempted to torpedo his administration from day 1. And Biden took all the media slanders against Trump and ran with them. Biden like HRC before him criticized the Trump voters (at least half the country), Biden attempted to hide his son Hunter's misdeeds while having accused Trump's family of worse. All of this while Biden attacked even Democrat voters "voter for the other guy", "I don't need your vote" etc and we're to A) Believe he got 80 MILLION plus votes and B ) He's extending the olive branch to us.....I'm unlikely to accept an olive branch from someone who just got finished stabbing me.
I understand your view of Donald Trump, my Father has the same view. It's understandable, he's been around forever it's quite easy to paint a picture of someone like that OR gloss over certain things. For example, did we hear anything about Biden dropping out of the 1988 Primary because he plagiarized speeches & lied about his university accomplishments (those things are true and damning but were omitted)? Did we hear about how Joe Biden's gaffes are due to him having a stutter that he has always been self conscious about (that's a lie but was touted especially when Joe was around kids)? Meanwhile Trump's very worst attributes were put on display 24/7 (and when the media PURPOSELY took him out of context) and then there's that good old tried & true "dog whistle" where Trump doesn't have to say anything wrong, but it's HOW he says it or his mannerisms or what he DIDN'T say so whatever he puts out to the public is spun as pure evil....the media do this and it is effective, probably not as effective as it used to be, but it's effective.
Anyway REGARDLESS of your view of Trump whether you like him or not this is a far bigger deal than just him. Pennsylvania changing when votes can be counted without running it through the legislature? Seems a bit sketchy.....but hey it'll play out in court and the good old world will keep spinning.
We have "night and day" differences when it comes to Trump, but I'm glad we can discuss them in a civil, positive manner. :)
I'm one of those people who, had I been able to vote, I would've voted for Biden not because I think he's all that... but because I can't stomach Trump.
Ironically, I would've voted for Trump in 2016 for a very similar reason. ;) ;)
I will say one thing about the Biden presidency though... and it's a damning comment not on Biden but on the Party in general.
They had BETTER NOT try and shove diversity down America's (and Biden's, for that matter) throat.
I'm all for giving the best candidate a shot, government position or otherwise, regardless of color, gender (male or female), or sexual orientation.
But I'll be damned if there aren't tons of people out there who live for pushing diversity for diversity's sake..... qualifications be damned.
Biden is not only going to have to contend with disgruntled Trump fans who feel cheated. He's also going to have to contend with the portion of the Party that'll want to ramrod candidates down everyone's throat just to check a few boxes.
I can see this coming a mile away.
El Kabong stop putting words in other people's mouths. You are telling anyone who disagrees with you that they are saying stuff they never said.
It is gone way beyond farce now.
" You are indeed drifting into the arena of the unwell. Making an enemy of your own future. What you need is harmony, fresh air, stuff like that."
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Thirsty post is thirsty ;D
It's pure projection. The seditious traitorous bastards ploy of voter suppression did not give him the result he wanted and so Trump as per his usual playbook is accusing others of his own crimes.
Many of his supporters like you El Kabong are being led by a nose ring to do the same.
What was the last thing you posted?
A post in the Biden thread whinging about Bidens son ffs, being investigated over his taxes.
Can you still not see how the scamming grifter that is Trump the cunt, now has you pretending not just the FBI, the CIA and the legal system are supposedly part of some deep state bullshit, but apparently Spicoli and Master and anyone else questioning your bollocks are just naive twats drinking Biden Kool Aid.
Ha!
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My point exactly Lyle.
A typical Lyle answer. We start with a whatabout. Well yes, I'm sure some Democratic idiots assaulted some Trump supporters at some point over the last four years. There will have been violence from idiots on both sides that we've discussed over the years. This however is something else entirely. This is groups of armed morons assembling outside the homes of state officials with the aim of subverting the democratic process. Only one side has ever done anything like this Lyle.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongI don't seem to recall you saying anything during the 4 year period in which Republicans and Trump supporters were harassed and violently assaulted, but you pipe up now....stunning and brave Kirkland.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
It's not a fascist thing to make certain that the votes are truly the votes fo the people. And it sure as shit ain't "racist" either. Plenty of black and hispanic people legally voted FOR Trump and illegal votes, bullshit tactics from corrupt counters and fraudulent voting machines rob those people of their vote.
Your side has sowed the wind and they will reap the whirlwind. The Democrats and Establishment could have taken 2016 on the chin....that they didn't should have been a big warning sign, but hey don't believe me. Watch what happens, it'll get wilder sweetheart ;)
There has been no evidence of illegal voting, fraudulent voting or voting machines or any kind of corruption involving election officials. None at all. The election officials in every state have said that the election was free, fair and secure as did the DHS department charged with overseeing the security of the election. There will be less than a hundred isolated examples of voter fraud in this entire election and it'll be idiots on both sides, half of them doing it in uncompetitive states. Trying to overturn the result of this free, fair and secure election on bullshit grounds is indeed fascist.
And then you end the post with allusions to violence if the election result isn't overturned to your satisfaction. If circumstances did somehow conspire to effect a Trump autogolpe you'd click your heels and salute. What a shameful anti-American you are Lyle.
[QUOTE=El Kabong;1566527]You already have all those laws thickhead. And for years you've supported the GOP when it was a wholly owned subsidiary of corporations and big business. And it still is under Trump. Trump did every single thing his big business donors wanted while he was in office but spent four years producing a blizzard of culture war bullshit so that none of you idiots noticed.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
Joe biden: You ain't black
Me: And you ain't president
Get comfy Kirk. This is something bigger than you or I can control....you're upset someone had a peaceful protest outside their house AAWWWWWW welcome to the club. Maybe next time a Biden supporter will be shot dead in the street like what happened to Aaron Danielson and what did you say about that? What did the LEFT say about it? NOT A GOD DAMNED THING, they still haven't....call me whatever you want to call me, but do it online ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
Actually NO we don't have those laws because certain people deem them "racist" (for whatever reason). But please call me a "thickhead"...it's quite obvious you don't know what you're talking about.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland LaingYou already have all those laws thickhead. And for years you've supported the GOP when it was a wholly owned subsidiary of corporations and big business. And it still is under Trump. Trump did every single thing his big business donors wanted while he was in office but spent four years producing a blizzard of culture war bullshit so that none of you idiots noticed.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
Breaking News
Trump announces Israel-Morocco to normalize relations
https://apnews.com/article/donald-tr...ign=SocialFlow
Israel and Morocco have agreed to normalize relations, President Donald Trump announced on Thursday, marking the fourth Arab-Israel agreement in four months. As part of the deal, the U.S. will recognize Morocco’s claim over the disputed Western Sahara region.
As his time in office winds down, Trump said Israel and Morocco would restore diplomatic and other relations, including the immediate reopening of liaison offices in Rabat and Tel Aviv and the eventual opening of embassies. U.S. officials said it would also include joint overflight rights for airlines.
The White House said Trump and Morocco’s King Mohammed VI had agreed in a conversation that Morocco would “resume diplomatic relations between Morocco and Israel and expand economic and cultural cooperation to advance regional stability.”
Wow...what a Nazi :rolleyes: what a war monger :rolleyes:
4 in 4 months
Every other President? :tumbleweed:
Jimmy Carter: Lets do Camp David
Donald Trump: Hold my fucking beer.
I'm already looking forward to the complaints
https://youtu.be/ijjwS6h-PyU
Fulton County adjudicated 106,000
*ADJUDICATION* is a Dominion override function that is meant for a marginal number of ballots, not *OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND.
Gwinnet County adjudicated 80,000
Maricopa County adjudicated 28,000
But there's no evidence of fraud :-\ :rolleyes:
Sources: https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...lection-count/
https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden...eb2f6bcd326a21
Yes I saw that. And now Youtube us taking down ANY VIDEO AT ALL that even MENTIONS "ELECTION FRAUD".
I know, because one of mine was removed last night.
Total and complete Chinese censorship right FUCKING HERE in America.
But yet there it is. On Youtube. Right now :p. Republican's are cannibalizing themselves for a cult figurehead in real time. Honestly it's shameful. And to think back to all that garbage about 'defending democracy from radical leftists' throwing fireworks and rocks.Quote:
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Dude I seriously have no idea what you were talking about. It's like we're living in two totally different universes.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliBut yet there it is. On Youtube. Right now :p. Republican's are cannibalizing themselves for a cult figurehead in real time. Honestly it's shameful. And to think back to all that garbage about 'defending democracy from radical leftists' throwing fireworks and rocks.Quote:
Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell
Without cheating, Kanye would have done better than biden.
It's utterly mind-boggling how poorly people understand constitutional law, but with the total mainstream media blackout, I guess it makes sense.
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Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBellDude I seriously have no idea what you were talking about. It's like we're living in two totally different universes.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliBut yet there it is. On Youtube. Right now :p. Republican's are cannibalizing themselves for a cult figurehead in real time. Honestly it's shameful. And to think back to all that garbage about 'defending democracy from radical leftists' throwing fireworks and rocks.Quote:
Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell
This is probably the first accurate statement you've made in months.
You and anyone else supporting the overthrow of millions of voters in America are very much in a different universe.Quote:
Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBellDude I seriously have no idea what you were talking about. It's like we're living in two totally different universes.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliBut yet there it is. On Youtube. Right now :p. Republican's are cannibalizing themselves for a cult figurehead in real time. Honestly it's shameful. And to think back to all that garbage about 'defending democracy from radical leftists' throwing fireworks and rocks.Quote:
Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell
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Originally Posted by El KabongGet comfy Kirk. This is something bigger than you or I can control....you're upset someone had a peaceful protest outside their house AAWWWWWW welcome to the club. Maybe next time a Biden supporter will be shot dead in the street like what happened to Aaron Danielson and what did you say about that? What did the LEFT say about it? NOT A GOD DAMNED THING, they still haven't....call me whatever you want to call me, but do it online ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
Actually NO we don't have those laws because certain people deem them "racist" (for whatever reason). But please call me a "thickhead"...it's quite obvious you don't know what you're talking about.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland LaingYou already have all those laws thickhead. And for years you've supported the GOP when it was a wholly owned subsidiary of corporations and big business. And it still is under Trump. Trump did every single thing his big business donors wanted while he was in office but spent four years producing a blizzard of culture war bullshit so that none of you idiots noticed.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
You don't turn up to a peaceful protest with an assault rifle. This is not peaceful or like anything you see in any other democracy, this is an angry mob demanding that the result of a democratic election be overturned. A bunch of armed thugs trying to subvert the democratic process.
Random acts of violence by idiots on either side are just that. What did the RIGHT have to say when some idiot shot a policeman and then set fire to and shot at a police station while trying to make it look like he was a protestor on the other side?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...g-george-floyd
This is a different thing entirely Lyle. This is a political party from its leader on down through its national elected senators and congressmen to its voters trying to subvert the country's democratic process based on zero evidence simply because they don't like how the recent election was decided. This is election fraud happening in plain sight, sedition happening in full view of the country and the rest of the world. Shameful.
And, thickhead, every single state has voter identification laws, more than half have additional in person voter ID laws when a person votes, every state has senior election staff comprised of members of both parties who run the election and vote counting processes so that both parties are satisfied that the election is fair and both parties have election monitors who monitor both the voting and the counting parts of the election process. You're asking for laws to be enacted that have existed for decades you titanic fucking idiot.
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There is no evidence of any fraud in this election Lyle. None at all. A youtube video and some links from months ago don't mean anything.
Some interesting points of view on the attempted Trump autogolpe:
https://twitter.com/JayCaruso/status...59519696941072
It turns out the fucker in Texas who filed the case that's making all the news is facing 99 years in prison and is desperate for a pardon. Seven senior attorneys in his office made statements to the FBI accusing him of various forms of corruption in addition to the charges he's already facing so of course Texas being Texas they've all been fired and he's still in a job and desperate for a pardon so he filed this bullshit case. And the AGs of nineteen GOP states have piled on because they see it as a way of making a name for themselves with voters for their eventual runs for higher office. Absolutely shameful. The GOP is devolving into a fascist party in real time.
The bottomless gullibility/goldfish memory of GOP voters:
https://twitter.com/daveweigel/statu...00713219018758
and
https://twitter.com/daveweigel/statu...63676726157312
Another bullshit lawsuit that doesn't even allege fraud bites the dust. Have a read what the judges have to say:
https://twitter.com/TonyFratto/statu...70406128144384
And this is the (currently anyway) nonfascist part of the GOP doing what they do:
https://twitter.com/JohnJHarwood/sta...34342520369157
Just beautiful. They're not yet willing to get on board with scrapping democracy and just taking power but they're happy to pander to white racism/nationalism to win elections.
Live reporting from yet another bullshit lawsuit:
https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/...12427629076480
Trump currently 1-55 in court.
If you want an idea of how the country's legal profession feel about the current situation this is worth a scroll every day:
https://twitter.com/Popehat?ref_src=...Ctwgr%5Eauthor
you're right I don't support the overthrow of millions of voters in America who voted for Trump because their votes were tainted by illegal votes for Biden.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliYou and anyone else supporting the overthrow of millions of voters in America are very much in a different universe.Quote:
Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBellDude I seriously have no idea what you were talking about. It's like we're living in two totally different universes.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliBut yet there it is. On Youtube. Right now :p. Republican's are cannibalizing themselves for a cult figurehead in real time. Honestly it's shameful. And to think back to all that garbage about 'defending democracy from radical leftists' throwing fireworks and rocks.Quote:
Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell
You and anyone else not supporting the US Constitution which gives everyone the right to seek relief in the legal system, and that includes Tito, are very much in a different universe. ☺️