Re: Wacko's Round by Round of Roy Jones jr vs Tito Trinidad! Happy New Year bwoy
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Originally Posted by LeftHookToTheBody
I tell you what, my opinion will be different than most, but this proves to me that Jones is washed up. The fact the he could not knock out a man 23 pounds beyond his best weight tells me all I need to know. Kudos to Tito for making it the distance, but Jones failing to put the much smaller man away--a much smaller man who had not fought in a couple of years--tells me all I need to know about Roy. He's done in his weight class.
I think you're underestimating Trinidad's heart.
Roy knocked him down twice and had him hurt badly.
Trinidad has one of the greatest hearts in boxing. If anything this fight confirmed that.
Roy wasn't gonna knock out Tito unless he caught him early.
Trinidad isn't heartless so why would Roy put him away?
I think you're severely underestimating Trinidad's heart and will
Re: Wacko's Round by Round of Roy Jones jr vs Tito Trinidad! Happy New Year bwoy
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Originally Posted by LeftHookToTheBody
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Originally Posted by JT Rock
Jones would whip Hopkins Azz... I am more convinced about that than I ever been after seeing this fight, and Hopkins last 2 fights...
Uh, no. Roy could not put away a man 23 pounds beyond his best weight and who had not fought in two and a half years. That is not an impressive win in the least.
Neither did Hopkins when he fought Wright ::** Go hate somewere else junior
Re: Wacko's Round by Round of Roy Jones jr vs Tito Trinidad! Happy New Year bwoyo's!
Looks like Superman found his cape ??? Bring on Calzaghe,Hopkins,Johnson 2.....Kingkong :cwm33:
Re: Wacko's Round by Round of Roy Jones jr vs Tito Trinidad! Happy New Year bwoy
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Originally Posted by LeftHookToTheBody
I tell you what, my opinion will be different than most, but this proves to me that Jones is washed up. The fact the he could not knock out a man 23 pounds beyond his best weight tells me all I need to know. Kudos to Tito for making it the distance, but Jones failing to put the much smaller man away--a much smaller man who had not fought in a couple of years--tells me all I need to know about Roy. He's done in his weight class.
I think you are looking at the trees and missing the forrest. Roy could have polished off Tito any time he wanted after the first knockdown. Its just no in his nature, he's a guy who is happy to score his points and take the decision. He doesn't like to go out for the knockout, plain and simple.
Look at Roy's handspeed and accuracy he showed tonight. The only other guy who shows accuracy and speed on that level is P4P king Floyd Mayweather. He aint the Roy of old, but IMO he isn't done.
Re: Wacko's Round by Round of Roy Jones jr vs Tito Trinidad! Happy New Year bwoyo's!
Well, who would of thought. The one dimensional can only fight moving forward Tito was actually outboxing Jones moving backwards for six rounds.
Yeah I know, I sound delusional but I think Tito was clearly winnig the fight till he got cought. Tito was out of his depth here but he still did better than I thought he would.
Maybe if I see the fight again with a few less beers on me I'd see something different but I was supprised Tito did so well on this fight for at least the first half anyway.
Re: Wacko's Round by Round of Roy Jones jr vs Tito Trinidad! Happy New Year bwoy
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Originally Posted by JT Rock
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Originally Posted by LeftHookToTheBody
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Originally Posted by JT Rock
Jones would whip Hopkins Azz... I am more convinced about that than I ever been after seeing this fight, and Hopkins last 2 fights...
Uh, no. Roy could not put away a man 23 pounds beyond his best weight and who had not fought in two and a half years. That is not an impressive win in the least.
Neither did Hopkins when he fought Wright ::** Go hate somewere else junior
Great comparison. Wright is a defensive master. I never expected Hopkins or anyone else to KO Wright. Trinidad ain't no defensive master. I fully expected a Jones KO, and the fact that he couldn't deliver proves that he has lost something. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a hater...Roy at his best is a top 20 all time great. But he does not have it anymore.
Re: Wacko's Round by Round of Roy Jones jr vs Tito Trinidad! Happy New Year bwoy
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Originally Posted by Beanflicker
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Originally Posted by LeftHookToTheBody
I tell you what, my opinion will be different than most, but this proves to me that Jones is washed up. The fact the he could not knock out a man 23 pounds beyond his best weight tells me all I need to know. Kudos to Tito for making it the distance, but Jones failing to put the much smaller man away--a much smaller man who had not fought in a couple of years--tells me all I need to know about Roy. He's done in his weight class.
I think you are looking at the trees and missing the forrest. Roy could have polished off Tito any time he wanted after the first knockdown. Its just no in his nature, he's a guy who is happy to score his points and take the decision. He doesn't like to go out for the knockout, plain and simple.
Look at Roy's handspeed and accuracy he showed tonight. The only other guy who shows accuracy and speed on that level is P4P king Floyd Mayweather. He aint the Roy of old, but IMO he isn't done.
Yeah as I mentioned the guy who said that is underestimating Trinidad's heart and drive which are two of the biggest in boxing.
Oh you wanna say "Roy didnt knock him out im unimpressed"
As if no one else saw Roy dominate, toy with him and knock him down twice ;)
It seemed like Jones gave away the early rounds to save his legs for late and once that was confirmed Tito was tattooed all night.
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Originally Posted by LeftHookToTheBody
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Originally Posted by JT Rock
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Originally Posted by LeftHookToTheBody
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Originally Posted by JT Rock
Jones would whip Hopkins Azz... I am more convinced about that than I ever been after seeing this fight, and Hopkins last 2 fights...
Uh, no. Roy could not put away a man 23 pounds beyond his best weight and who had not fought in two and a half years. That is not an impressive win in the least.
Neither did Hopkins when he fought Wright ::** Go hate somewere else junior
Great comparison. Wright is a defensive master. I never expected Hopkins or anyone else to KO Wright. Trinidad ain't no defensive master. I fully expected a Jones KO, and the fact that he couldn't deliver proves that he has lost something. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a hater...Roy at his best is a top 20 all time great. But he does not have it anymore.
So dominating Trinidad after giving away the early rounds toying with him and knocking him down twice isnt enough for you?
Re: Wacko's Round by Round of Roy Jones jr vs Tito Trinidad! Happy New Year bwoyo's!
Good Job ICB...CC to ya mate....Wacko would be proud....What happened to old Wacko tonight anyway?....
IMO Trinidada did not look bad at all...Especially since it has been over 2yrs and at 170lbs...He could make some noise at 160....No shame for Tito....He made a good showing...
Roy looked good but at times he seemed to me not able to stay strong throughour the fight....He was not able to fight 3min of every rd...But he did look good...his confidence was back...the more the fight went on the better he got...
Much better bout then I expected....
Re: Wacko's Round by Round of Roy Jones jr vs Tito Trinidad! Happy New Year bwoy
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Originally Posted by LeftHookToTheBody
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Originally Posted by JT Rock
Jones would whip Hopkins Azz... I am more convinced about that than I ever been after seeing this fight, and Hopkins last 2 fights...
Uh, no. Roy could not put away a man 23 pounds beyond his best weight and who had not fought in two and a half years. That is not an impressive win in the least.
Jones looked dominating in that fight. Trinidad can still punch like a beast so Jones played it safe, but he picked his spots and dominated Trinidad. Jones never even tried for a knockout, but he still looked like the fastest, sharpest Roy Jones I have seen in years.
Re: Wacko's Round by Round of Roy Jones jr vs Tito Trinidad! Happy New Year bwoy
Sorry if the last few rounds wern't good its because i couldn't get on Saddo's and i was trying to rush to get all the comments in. And im already half a sleep at the moment, but i tried my best folks overall great fight. Thats the best Jones i've seen in ages he stood toe to toe with Tito and out brawled the brawler. Great performance from both fighters im glad they proved a lot of doubters wrong, most people thought this would be a boring fight including myself so i think Jones and Tito deserve around of a applause :appl:
Re: Wacko's Round by Round of Roy Jones jr vs Tito Trinidad! Happy New Year bwoy
Jones SHOULD have looked dominating against a man 23 pounds above his best weight and on a two and a half year lay off! That's to be expected. I expected him to put him away at least by the mid-rounds given those things. He couldn't do it. The top guys at 175 will beat him (Calzaghe, Hopkins, Dawson).
Re: Wacko's Round by Round of Roy Jones jr vs Tito Trinidad! Happy New Year bwoy
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Originally Posted by Ice Cold Boxing
Sorry if the last few rounds wern't good its because i couldn't get on Saddo's and i was trying to rush to get all the comments in. And im already half a sleep at the moment, but i tried my best folks overall great fight. Thats the best Jones i've seen in ages he stood toe to toe with Tito and out brawled the brawler. Great performance from both fighters im glad they proved a lot of doubters wrong, most people thought this would be a boring fight including myself so i think Jones and Tito deserve around of a applause :appl:
And don't forget a :appl: :goodpost: :coolclick: for ICB!
Re: Wacko's Round by Round of Roy Jones jr vs Tito Trinidad! Happy New Year bwoy
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Originally Posted by LeftHookToTheBody
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Originally Posted by JT Rock
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Originally Posted by LeftHookToTheBody
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Originally Posted by JT Rock
Jones would whip Hopkins Azz... I am more convinced about that than I ever been after seeing this fight, and Hopkins last 2 fights...
Uh, no. Roy could not put away a man 23 pounds beyond his best weight and who had not fought in two and a half years. That is not an impressive win in the least.
Neither did Hopkins when he fought Wright ::** Go hate somewere else junior
Great comparison. Wright is a defensive master. I never expected Hopkins or anyone else to KO Wright. Trinidad ain't no defensive master. I fully expected a Jones KO, and the fact that he couldn't deliver proves that he has lost something. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a hater...Roy at his best is a top 20 all time great. But he does not have it anymore.
Did you even watch the fight? From the halfway stage on Roy completely and utterly dominated. Even before that he was totally relaxed and just playing around.
It was basically a sparring session for him. He could have put Trinidad away if he would have wanted he was just clearly enjoying putting on a show.
Great performance by Jones I honestly think he has a shot at beating not just Hopkins but even Calzaghe.
When he got knocked out by Tarver, and then Johnson it was like Jones didn't know that age was catching up with him and he was still fighting his old flashy style.
He's now learned that he aint the lightening fast invincible machine any more and he's adapted his style, slower, more methodical, relying on a decent block technique rather than rapid head and body movements for defense.
He's like Ali post his ban, not as fast but clever.
I really think he can go out with a bang and even reclaim his spot as p4p number 1, at least if Floyd doesn't fight.
He's going to be remembered like Ali and Foreman as a legend who reinvented himself in his older years to achieve success all over again.
Re: Wacko's Round by Round of Roy Jones jr vs Tito Trinidad! Happy New Year bwoy
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Originally Posted by Ice Cold Boxing
Sorry if the last few rounds wern't good its because i couldn't get on Saddo's and i was trying to rush to get all the comments in. And im already half a sleep at the moment, but i tried my best folks overall great fight. Thats the best Jones i've seen in ages he stood toe to toe with Tito and out brawled the brawler. Great performance from both fighters im glad they proved a lot of doubters wrong, most people thought this would be a boring fight including myself so i think Jones and Tito deserve around of a applause :appl:
CC ice! Both of them looked much better than I expected and both could make much more noise if they commited themselves. Tito if he could move down to 160, would be a top contender again IMO. He was sharp and powerful early on. His timing and body shots were fantastic.
Jones showed me that he still is the fastest fighter alive right now. He could beat anyone at 168-175 on a given night.
Re: Wacko's Round by Round of Roy Jones jr vs Tito Trinidad! Happy New Year bwoy
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Originally Posted by Ice Cold Boxing
Sorry if the last few rounds wern't good its because i couldn't get on Saddo's and i was trying to rush to get all the comments in. And im already half a sleep at the moment, but i tried my best folks overall great fight. Thats the best Jones i've seen in ages he stood toe to toe with Tito and out brawled the brawler. Great performance from both fighters im glad they proved a lot of doubters wrong, most people thought this would be a boring fight including myself so i think Jones and Tito deserve around of a applause :appl:
Take a bow ICE. Good job dude.I was in the dark throughout as far as seeing it and thats the last time I miss a card.Have to wait and see Fight before I declare the official "rebirth".
Was it a case of Jones setteling for a shut out or did he really try to close the show??