I've been looking for this thread for ages ;D
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I've been looking for this thread for ages ;D
I called this AGESS AGO,check the thread!!! 8) 8) 8) 8) WOW that was an amazing epsiode,why do they keep saying to John,you know where you are??? And Sawyer and the tape...Quote:
Originally Posted by wacko3205
I have a theory: the Dharma have all the people on the plane on machines and doing mind experiments on them all. The prefect example of this is John coming face to face with his dad and having to kill him: Ben was his bad side,he had his own good side and his dad was the fear he was trying to fight. They ALLLLLL have fears:Jack needs to fix things,his dad,James had Sawyer,Kate had that policeman and the thought of her mother disliking her etc etc. Man that's an awesome theory!! And they are not in hell although it sounds cool!
There's 3seasons left...and they will be 16 episodes each.I think thats good so no mid season break...
http://www.abcmedianet.com/assets/pr...050707_01.html
ABC GIVES VIEWERS 48 MORE ORIGINAL EPISODES OF THE HIT DRAMA "LOST,"
CULMINATING IN AN EXCITING SERIES CONCLUSION
Episodes Will Air Uninterrupted Over Three Seasons
Starting with the 2007-08 season, ABC will begin airing the 48 remaining original episodes of the hit drama "Lost," it was announced today by Stephen McPherson, president, ABC Entertainment. The episodes will air uninterrupted over three seasons (16 episodes each season), with the series concluding in 2009-10 with a highly anticipated and shocking finale.
fuckin hell this latest episode was awesome.
so ben's dad was the same roger from the van that hurley fixed ages ago. i liked how the same song was in the casette player aswell. also ben's dad was uncle rico from napolean dynamite :D
the purge between the natives and dharma was mostly explained, ben is seriously disturbed i reckon. damaged child hood, no real father figure and he is fucked up. when jacob aparently said 'help me' did he want help from ben? who is the only person who he has contact with? ben didnt like the fact that john could hear jacob (but wasnt ready enough to actually see him) so he killed him. and because ben killed his dad is that why he made the big fuss about locke having to kill his dad aswell to be free of him once and for all (similar situation to his own).
also when ben met the recruiting bloke (richard i think) in the jungle as kid, he was the same age, perhaps some kind of fountain of youth thing going on aswell as the islands healing power? and he told ben that he could join the natives but he had to be patient. did he mean patient for about 20 years untill the natives gassed the whole dharma people and wiped them out? was ben with the natives the whole time?
jacobs voice sounded awesome and what is going on with that? something about being able to see dead people, but only some people can do it (like jack seeing his dead dad and ben seeing his dead mother) because the richard bloke did not seem surprised when ben told him that he saw his mum.
how good was john drawing the nut on mikheal russian fella. battered him didnt he ;D god i feel like a right geek with all this lost shizzle but its the only thing i watch really and i got mega in to it. come on boys lets have some juicy replies to this cos ive nearly broke the key board with all this. over and out.
check this out aswell. i watched the episode on my housemate's laptop, and he watched it again and just showed me something..... u see jacob for a split second, but if you pause it just right you can have a good look at him. just after jacob goes scitso because locke shines the torch on him, ben grabbs the chair and tells jacob to stop 'you've had your fun', then jacob sonic booms ben into the wall and THEN for a split second you see him. pause it
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Yup I saw all that stuff PLUS,the theme of the episode was patience and again,just like I've nailed lots of other points,check this>:
* Jacob is literally translated in Hebrew as "holds the heel," and is a play on words that means "trickster" or "deceiver." His mother Rebekah named him thus because while his twin brother Esau was firstborn, Jacob came out of the womb hanging on to his heel.
o Esau was favored by their father Isaac but Jacob was favored by their mother.
o Esau was the firstborn, but Jacob conned him into selling his birthright.
o Jacob impersonated Esau in order to gain a blessing from his father Isaac meant for Esau.
o Esau was an outdoorsman/hunter while Jacob was studious, reserved, and "dwelled in tents".
o Jacob had twelve sons, one of whom was named Benjamin. Jacob was the patriarch of what became the 12 Tribes of Israel, people chosen by God to be "set apart" and special.
* Jacob envisioned a "Ladder to Heaven" (described in the Book of Genesis 28:11-19) during his flight from his brother Esau.
o According to the Jewish teachings in the Midrash, the ladder signified the exiles which the Jewish people would suffer before the coming of the Messiah. The top step on the ladder is supposedly guarded by a vision of Esau and represents Edom which God assures Jacob will be brought down at the End of Days.
* According to the Book of Malachi, God "loved Jacob but hated his brother Esau" REMEMBER THE BRAIN WASHED GUY SAYING GOD LOVES YOU AS HE LOVED JACOB?(Malachi 1:1-3). This is the only time God specifically says he "loves" an individual in the Hebrew books.
* Jacob became the "father of a nation" through his 12 sons--he was clearly a very fertile man. (The Others and Mittelos Bioscience seem to be doing research connected with fertility. Alvar Hanso states on www.TheHansoFoundat ion.org that the foundation's goal is to "bring rebirth to a dying land and a dying people".
* Jacob is the great-great-grandfather of Aaron IS IT ANY COINCIDENCE THAT CHARLIES SON IS CALLED ARON>?(elder brother of Moses).
* Jacob is the first person in the Bible to refer to God as a shepherd.
* Jacob loved Rachel, daughter of Laban.
o He worked seven years to earn her hand in marriage, but Laban conned Jacob actually making him marry Rachel's sister Leah (whom he disguised) and forcing Jacob to work another seven years for the right of marrying Rachel.
o Rachel was apparently barren, but later amazingly gave birth to Joseph and Benjamin after failing to become pregnant for years.
o Benjamin had 11 brothers but only one full brother, Joseph, who also was Jacob's favorite.
o In Jewish history, the tribe of Benjamin's women and children were all killed, and the remaining members of the tribe could not longer proliferate. The historical solution they came up with was to kill the men from another sub-tribe and take their women and children. So far the Others have been taking women and children from flight 815.
I guess the lost producers like reading the bible. What do you thinkk Wack,did I nail this one or what 8)
Jacob had 12 kids including 2 names Ben and Jospeh. Ben got jealous and killed Jospeh?(ie Ben on the island killed John because he was jealous that he had heard Jacob whereas may be Eben either can't hear him OR does not like what he hears?)
Also,a note of interest: Both Ben and Locke have mothers named Emily. :o :o :o :o :o
Both Locke & Ben have killed their fathers to join the Others/Hostiles. They are also both looked on with some authority by them. Also,Locke won't die,his healing powers/the island shall save him.
Also,lie I said,you can look at Lost deeper than just face value,for example, * The episode title is a reference to the story of the Wizard of Oz, where the ruler of the Emerald City hides behind a curtain:
Wizard of Oz: Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain IE MAYBE jACOB DOES NOT HAVE THAT MUCH POWER AT ALL??
And so, in the previous episode when Richard came and gave John that file about Sawyer and said that Ben wants to see John fail,it was not a test bt Ben,he REALLY DID want to see John fail!
Did Annie die in the purge? If not, will she appear in an upcoming Ben flashback next season? Did she die giving birth to Ben's child before the events of the Purge? If she died, where is the Ben doll now? Did her death motivate Ben to focus the efforts of the others on this topic -- which Richard had previously said was not the main reason why they came to the island9in the previous episode)
LOTS TO THINK ABOUT PEEPS BUT MAKE NO MISTAKE ABOUT IT,THIS IS THE BEST TELEVISION PROGRAMME THERE HAVS EVER BEEN BAR NONE.
things are really starting to get going now aint they!
Everyone is gunna be gagging for another benn flash back to find out why the others actualy killed or attacked the dharma, maybe a richard flash back would be even better!
the bible ref's are a bit nuts aint they... maybe benn is just a bible bashing freak and causing alot of this shit - the question is why does benn se only jacob? richard etc have been with the hostiles a years and years longer than benn... why have they not met him? WHO led the hostiles before benn? was there a 'joseph' there then?
I like your link to john being the joseph gam, cud be right - but so far the attention to detail has been to much and im wondering if there was a joseph that let the others before benn, imdroduced benn to jacob and benn killed him to be the one power?
Also it seems that when jackob talks to a person, only that person can hear him, coz when he spoke to john (if he does exist) benn cud not hear him...
Also it seems that when jackob talks to a person, only that person can hear him, coz when he spoke to john (if he does exist) benn cud not hear him..
I think that is because jacob is only horrible to Ben whereas he was nice to John,liek he didn't get mad? Or may be Ben doesn't really hear anything at all? And remember the WIZADORA REFERENCE,THAT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IMOl: Wizadora as in, the man behind the curtain was nowhere near a powerful being or anything and it could be the same here. This can also be seen from the fac that Jacob asked John to help him?
John won't die,he'll recuperate although I don't think we will see him for a while. I think that Richard dude is really powerful you know!
i wonder if any of the other natives do not seem to age or is that just richard? because we havent really been introduced to any others yet. i wonder how the lost goons are gonna leave the cliff hanger at the end of this season because u can bet your ass that they will.
Yeah I wonder who those 2 were? Was Juliet lying,and may be knew there were people down there? Juliet,Russo,and the kid:I'm not sure if allllll those 3 can be trusted. Did Jacob really order the earlier march by the Others? And how perturbed did Richard look when John wasn't there/ Also when Rosseaus daughter,Alex,says to the kid,I think his name is Karl,something about they know Bens not really the father or they insinuate that he isn't?! And was Desmond's flashback for real? He saw Claire rescued? Also,that woman who landed on the island,she is far far far too quiet for my liking,surely she has a bigger role to play? All in all,another fantastic episode in a sensational programme.