well thats that
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well thats that
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its a load of shite
I thought that was a shit ending, to much rambling to do but couldn't be arsed typing,
anyway that sucked balls...
I feel like I have wasted over 120 hours of my life.
I feel used and confused.
Didn't really answer anything, clearly the story had ran away with itself and they didn't know how to end it. The ending seemed to be based on the last series alone and not any of the previous 5!
Well that was emotional.
So the island was real and the alt-time was purgatory. Who thinks the original idea was the island was purgatory (one of the most common theories) but they let the story run loose when it become a hit?
Why wasn't Walt and Michael at the dead gig?
The magic island is just a random magic island then. Oh well...
You guys are missing the most important revelation, which was how fucking fit did Evangaline Lilly look in that black dress!
I got sidetracked there and ended up downloading galleries of pics and didn't really pay attention to the last 20 minutes because of it.
Will watch it again later I guess.,
She sure did look hot in that black dress.
I just looked at a Lost forum. If you have three days to spare those guys have a billion unanswered questions and a billion possible answers :D
What the f**k was that all about? Just watched the finale and im as confused as when i started. Granted, i stopped watching after the 4th series but the curiosity value made me watch it. I knew that there would be somethings that i wouldnt get but that the big questions would be answered.
I know that since i didnt invest time in the last 2 series that ive no right to ask this but i would really appreciate if anyone could spare a few minutes answering these,
1. What was the story with the polar bears?
2. what was the significance of hurleys lottery numbers?
3. What the f**k did that ending mean? was the island real or was it the alt real?
Is it a case of just a poor ending, or is it far too complex for me?
Please please help my tiny mind from exploding
1. The polar bears were brought to the island by the dhama gang to do experiments.
2. The numbers haven't been explained - going by the amount of people pissed that they haven't been explained.
3. The island life was real. I thought they they made that pretty clear.
Yes, I think purgatory, the Island being purgatory I mean, was the original idea. But then that started to be the big internet theory and they wanted to be more clever than that so they denied it then in the end they fell back on that the island wasn't purgatory but the alt timeline was.
I think the conversation between Hurley and Ben (who I guessed stayed in purgatory) made it clear the island was real, what with them saying "you were a good 1, you were a good 2", they stayed on the island for I assume a long time doing their Jacob shit and then died and went to the alt timeline. Sames with Kate (who did look good) saying something about how she'd missed Jack for a long time, cause presumably she died later than Jack.
I don't think it was the worst ending ever. I think basically they wrote themselves into a corner and just had to do something.
I mean they basically didn't answer shit and what was answered was kind of idiotic. Maybe they shouldn't have tried to answer anything if they had such shit answers.
Also did season 2-5 really matter at all? In the grand scheme of things?
Why did they even bother with Jacob and Smokey, I'm not sure that was really the point of the story.
The show just seems like it went totally nuts in the season 5 finale and completely and totally changed, all of a sudden Jacob and Smokey were everywhere and we got this absurd backstory about them.
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Originally Posted by Fenster
the numbers was the candidate's numbers ie Jack,Saywer,Kate,Jin,Sun,Hurley and Sayid.
why they were the same numbers that had to be entered into the computer was never really explained... Jacob probably fixed it so they were the winning lotto numbers for Hurley...
they were also on the hatch which doesn't make a whole lot of sense. And it wasn't just Hurley that had bad luck with them, there was that other guy (I barely remember that episode but he goes to Australia or something and meets the guy's wife.)
Well thanks for letting me know. I honestly didnt know what was real and what was not, as was the aim of the writers so if it was pretty clear to your good self then fair play to ya cos i was flummoxed.What kinda drugs were these writers on?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
I refuse to allow them to take any plaudits for such self indulgent rubbish. Pretty much everything in between the first season and the last episode had absolutely no relevance to anything.
The wrapping up of the mysteries was the only thing that people kept watching and to leave all that stuff open ended was a massive let down. I was exepcting it to be hugely clever (and if you've seen some of the theories on the net in the years gone by, you can see that fans have written much more intelligent and interesting storys simply guessig at what the producers might have in mind).
In the end, the test of a good programme is would you watch it again and the answer is a categoric 'no'.
explained
they were dead from the moment it crashed - the island never existed
walt was just hurt and unconscious and able to leave eventually
all eventually came together when they were ready to move on and accept death
ben wasnt ready and so didnt go into the church at the end. he was staying in limbo (purgatory ?)
the timelines were all different parallels as they could do anything in limbo
people died on the island when they were ready to move on
thank you
Well the first line in your post is wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark TKO
The rest of it is correct.
7/10.
"Must pay more attention in class"
correct i think you will find
the island is the middle ground between earth and heaven (or hell)
thats why when the six left the first time they had to go back
i rule
Jack's Dad even said: "Everything on the island was real".Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark TKO
Either way, the fact remains, the ending was garbage and seasons 2-5 were meaningless. :mad:
it was real to jack - part of his transition to the next place.Quote:
Originally Posted by koppasJack's Dad even said: "Everything on the island was real".Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark TKO
Either way, the fact remains, the ending was garbage and seasons 2-5 were meaningless. :mad:
yes 2-5 were meaningless
in fact had this been a tv mini series it could have been over in 3 two hour episodes. fact !
Even most of series 6 was pointless, they simply answered the last few episodes.
Nothing really makes sense still, there are so many things that stand out from any explanation. For every solid theory, there are many things that simply don't fit in with that answer.
There was so much that was simply pointless, why in purgatory (alt world) did Jack have a kid with the doc women?
Why did all of those guys have to wait for each other? Including Jacks dad who wasn't even on the plane? If it is purgatory, how can people like Sawyer, Kate and Sayid go to heaven when they were all horrible cunts in their real life.
The whole alt timeline thing just fucked it up, they started something they couldn't finish and it just doesn't make sense
Jack had a kid with Juliet because although they were all still bound together, the influence that Jacob had had on their lives from a very early age was gone, you're familiar with 'the butterfly affect' yes?
A fair bit of the science of the alt dimensions and godly powers inside the earth/history of the civilizations that built the temples (Jacob enchanting the water etc) were left unexplained but the over all purpose of the characters journey was made clear and was resolved.
I could get all geeky because I didn't get some psuedo physics lecture explaining about the forces within the cork etc but for me Lost became more about the Characters... that's what makes any good story and I was satisfied with the closure that they all got.
Locke was vindicated, his faith in fate and purpose was right all along
Ben was almost redeemed and found what he was looking for, in both worlds
Sawyer got 'duh hell off of dis island' ...and of course found hapiness in sideways world
Jack accepted his situation and stepped up to the job also saving his friends and allowing them to escape. Always a leader he was actually able to lead them somewhere
Richard was able to age and let go of his fear of death and punishment
etc etc bla bla bla
It was more or less explained...Quote:
Originally Posted by johnmaff36
The Dharma initiative knew that the island had a lot of scientifically strange properties and were using the island to conduct various experiments.
One of them involved Polar Bears... You remember when Kate and Sawyer got locked in those cages in Season 3? In the old Dharma facility? They were polar bear cages.
What exactly the experiment was was never really expanded upon... but did it need to be? The whole entire Dharma initiative ended up being nothing more than a bunch of hippy scientists from the 50s-70s performing some pretty far out experiments (as hippy scientists did in the 50s and 70s). Really Dharma was pretty inconsequential.
The hatch for example... was just a Dharma experiment to see what would happen if you isolated and terrified somebody... they could have easily automated the button to vent the electromagnetic energy (that they accidental released, which we found out was from when they drilled to deep... much like the ancient wells were an attempt at in season 6, they difference is that Dharma had giant drills etc... not pick axes)
Why did they choose those numbers for the console? Who knows... was it something to do with Chaos theory, that might explain why after hearing them being recited by a crazy sailor, hurley put them on the lottery which eventually put him onto flight 815.
Clearly the hand of god/fate was at work, I'm almost glad that whilst a basic outline has been made a lot of the finer details are still open to some speculation... thats what proper fans of the show enjoyed and got passionate about.
I agree completley. Great knowledge and passion on Lost, I love it and have watched every mintute intently.
Which is why I'm more disapointed they took the easy way out. They just dropped the last bits together so quick really, the Jack being the top candidate in an instant, killing Lock, island sinking, then Hurley and Ben run island, then cut to end, everyone is now dead at the gates to heaven.
Done. Didn't seem like much thought or effort had gone into it. Compared to say the recent episode where we saw Richards story.
If they all got what they wanted, why did they all pair up win someone from the island, people they had not even met before the plane crashes. Sayid not with his wife, Sawyers settles without Kate etc, too convinient. Too easy.
So their purgatory was a made up world where they lived their entire lives then bumped into each other and realised it was time to die as they were now dead in a real world. So off they went. That world was just created when one of them died and off it went until such time as they all died, then they woke up and that world stops.
Is that right?
So that's that part. Then there is the actual island itself, still pretty much what the
fuck? All the freaky stuff that went on there. Plus the time travel scienist man, his mum seemed like she was well aware of what was going on at all times and was against desmond rounding them up. Why?
Maybe they were going back to the island?
Maybe I'm still lost and think they need another episode to have closure.